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Hi, wondering if you lot can help, i'm trying to find out where the following teams played, (they all used to play in the NCEL in the 80's)

Wombwell Sports Association
Fryston Colliery Welfare
Immingham Town
Frecheville CA
Collingham

And where did Sheffield FC play in 1986/87?

and I take it Staveley played at inkersall road.

Any help would be welcomed



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Seem to remember that Fryston played at Askham Road. The ground had an area of covered standing and a rugby pitch next door.
Collingham played at Harewood Road, I seem to remember this ground as being rather cold and windswept.



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Wombwell Town - Station Road.
Frechville CA - Silkstone Road. They still play there!
Collingham - Harewood Road. Still used


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Immingham Town - Woodlands Ave (grimsby Boro are meant to be renovating the grd and moving there)


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Immingham Town played at Woodlands Avenue. As far as I am aware there is not a lot left of the ground anymore, but Grimsby Borough are hoping to re-build on the site and play there in the future.




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Re: [Bertie188e] Old NCEL Grounds or Reply Privately

Cheers helps a lot all i need is where Sheffield played in 86



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Re: [Parkstee] Old NCEL Grounds or Reply Privately

I wouldn't swear to it for 86 but around that time they did play at Don Valley Stadium. They also had a spell at Owlerton Stadium which was essentially a speedway track but I'm not sure of the actual date.


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I wouldn't swear to it for 86 but around that time they did play at Don Valley Stadium. They also had a spell at Owlerton Stadium which was essentially a speedway track but I'm not sure of the actual date.

I knew they played at both as remember us beating them at Owlerton but just do know where there played n the 80's



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Re: [Parkstee] Old NCEL Grounds or Reply Privately

I sure Sheffield played at Abbeydale Park in Dore during the 1986 season.Could be wrong though.


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I didn't know that, can anyone confirm this??



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Re: [hope springs] Old NCEL Grounds or Reply Privately

I visited the Abbeydale Park ground in 1985 and saw Sheffield playing there in season 1985/86. But my records also show Wombwell playing in the Dorothy Hynam Stadium in Wombwell; is that the same ground in Station Road?


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I'm not sure about Wombwell is it where the cricket ground is now?

Anyone know where Crookes used to play??



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Immingham Town played at Woodlands Avenue. As far as I am aware there is not a lot left of the ground anymore, but Grimsby Borough are hoping to re-build on the site and play there in the future.


Grimsby Boro purchased, and still hold the lease for Woodlands Avenue, but will be moving to Bradley fields in Grimsby when its finished


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I visited the Abbeydale Park ground in 1985 and saw Sheffield playing there in season 1985/86. But my records also show Wombwell playing in the Dorothy Hynam Stadium in Wombwell; is that the same ground in Station Road?

Yes it is the same ground in Wombwell. The name was transferred to the new stadium in Cudworth in the 1990,s where AFC Barnsley played.


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Re: [Loiner] Old NCEL Grounds or Reply Privately

Well least we know that about Wombwell is it where Wombwell Main and Town have or do play??

Also Garforth Town is it a new ground where they play if its so where did they used to play??



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Wombwell Main play at the cricket ground in Windmill Road.

Garforth Town is new. They previously played at Brierlands Lane which is now under a housing estate.

Crookes played at the Aurora Sports Club, Bawtry Road, Brinsworth, Rotherham. I think it is mainly used for hockey now.


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Great stuff helps a lot, what about Wombwell Town??

Ok heres the next two for you

Ash House
&
Dronfield United I assume played at the coach & horses ??



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I didn't know that, can anyone confirm this??



I think I have seen Sheffield FC play on more home grounds than any other team

11/4/87 - Abbeydale Park
28/4/90 - Middlewood Road (temp loan from Sheffield Wed training ground)
26/1/91 - Hillsborough Park
28/9/91 - Don Valley Stadium
25/2/95 - Owlerton
28/10/00 - Bramall Lane (one-off FA Cup tie v Northwich V)


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Great stuff helps a lot, what about Wombwell Town??

Ok heres the next two for you

Ash House
&
Dronfield United I assume played at the coach & horses ??

Wombwell S A became Wombwell Town in 1990.
Ash House played at the Transport Ground, Meadowhead where the ring road joins the A61.
Your assumption re Dronfield United is correct.
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Re: [Loiner] Re:Old Grounds or Reply Privately

Sheffield FC played 1987-8 season at Abbeydale. I went on 13/5/88 because it was rumoured that they were about to move - but I suspect it was a flase alarm and they may have played 88-9 there as well.



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Cheers everyone been a great help heres the next ones I need please

Bradley Rangers
Pilkington Recreation
Rossington Hasland
Sheffield Centralians
Kiveton Park
Blidworth Welfare
Priory (Eastwood)
York Railway Institute
Denaby & Cadeby Miners Welfare
Kimberley Town
Heanor Town
Parramore Sports
Oakham United
Eastwood Hanley
High Green Villa
Louth United



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Cheers everyone been a great help heres the next ones I need please
Off the top of my head
Bradley Rangers - On North side of Huddersfield, can't remember name, but think it's still intact
Pilkington Recreation - No idea
Rossington Hasland - Ask Jamesie, although I think it's HASLAM
Sheffield Centralians - Ask Jamesie
Kiveton Park - have always (in pyramid years) played at current ground and still do
Blidworth Welfare - ditto
Priory (Eastwood) - Tinsley Park, right next to the A610 at Eastwood, folded and Nuthall moved in, now kids football I believe
York Railway Institute - No idea
Denaby & Cadeby Miners Welfare - Did they not end up at Tickhill Square
Kimberley Town - Stag Ground, always have been
Heanor Town - Town Ground, always have been
Parramore Sports - ask Jamesie
Oakham United - Mansfield Hosiery Mills, on roundabout adjacent to Kings Mill Hospital, shared with cricket, now built on Eastwood Hanley - Trentmill Road, went past this the other week, assume it's still there, not sure what condition
High Green Villa - ask Jamesie
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Re: [Bob L. Hatt] Re:Old Grounds or Reply Privately

thanks can anyone lese fill in the missing grounds please?



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Re: [Parkstee] Re:Old Grounds or

Hi

Are you sure you want Eastwood Hanley? They are (were) Stoke on Trent based, down by the side of the closed Leek railway line!

Perhaps Eastwood Town (Notts) were once in the NCEL. A common mistake to think they were from the same town, especially as both ended up in the NPL1 in the 80s! In EH, the town part was Hanley - not sure where the Eastwood fitted in.

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Hi

Are you sure you want Eastwood Hanley? They are (were) Stoke on Trent based, down by the side of the closed Leek railway line!

Perhaps Eastwood Town (Notts) were once in the NCEL. A common mistake to think they were from the same town, especially as both ended up in the NPL1 in the 80s! In EH, the town part was Hanley - not sure where the Eastwood fitted in.

Cheers



Yes as we played in in the FA Vase in our NCEL thats why I put others in the topic titleWink and Eastwood Town was in the NCEL but its one in Stoke was the ground i didnt know



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Right, I'll fill a few of these in for you in no particular order, and anyone who watches Steels that regular has my sympathy!

Wombwell Town, played at Station Road, never been called Dorothy Hyman Stadium, that has always been in Cudworth, where she came from.
Crookes, as far as I know and I never saw them there, they shared Sheffield Waterworks old ground at Crookes before getting a decent side and moving up the pyramid. This is now owned by SUFC and is some five a side pitces and a posh gym.
Frecheville, still there and not changed one bit since dropping out of NC East.
Fryston, again still there and next to Cutsyke RL, who always got far bigger crowds.
Dronfield United, used to be called Norton Woodseats, the original occupants of the Coach & Horses ground where Sheffield now play. They changed name back again when they reformed but didn't last long.
Ash House, before sharing Transport Ground at Meadowhead played at Ash House, a now derilict playing surface with vandalised clubhouse at Dore, just before Sheffield Tigers RU, on opposite side of road.
Denaby & Cadeby, ended up at Denaby United. Not sure if it wasn't their committee that threw United off ground?
Pilkington Recreation, played on a ground in Doncaster, exactly where I forget, long time since I went!
York R.I., still at same ground (New Lane I think) in York & District League, went there last summer for York Locomotive RL.
Oakham United, isn't this the same ground now used by Sutton in Central Midlands?
Parramores, the original ground is lost in mists of time but I think and I emphasis that, it was somewhere up near Millhouses Park way. They went to Civil Service ground at Ecclesfield, same as Red Rose, then to Meadowhead, or was it other way round? Whatever! They've also played at Davy ground at bottom of Prince of Wales Road.
High Green Villa, Mortomley Lane in High Green, always been?
Rossington Haslam, a ground next door to Rossington Main. Also known as Station FC.
Sheffield Centralians, Sheffield United Cricket Ground on Bawtry Road, just before Crookes Aurora ground on same side.

Hope this info. is of use, someone I'm sure will correct me if I'm wrong with anything.



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Re: [IAN S] Re:Old Grounds or Reply Privately

Pilkinton Recs played at a ground in Kirk Sandall, to the north east of Doncaster.

The Oakham United situation is a bit confusing. They played at the Hosiery Mills Sports Ground in Mansfield. They then moved to a different ground, but gave it the same name, but at the same time (I think) changed their name to North Notts, then later to Sutton Town.


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York RI - Played at the York RI Sports Ground, New Lane, Acomb, York

Bradley Rangers - Played at Warrenside, Deighton, Huddersfield

Fryston Colliery Welfare - Played at Askham Road, Fryston


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Right, I'll fill a few of these in for you in no particular order, and anyone who watches Steels that regular has my sympathy!



Cheers Ian, why do you have my sympathy?? as your a Steels fan are you a member of the forum??



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Filling in some gaps...
Bradley Rangers - On North side of Huddersfield, can't remember name, but think it's still intact Warrenside - near A62. Stand's gone now, but still railed
Pilkington Recreation - No idea Doncaster Road, Kirk Sandall. Stand's still there - no rails though
Rossington Hasland - Ask Jamesie, although I think it's HASLAM - It is Haslam, no idea where though. Think it was towards Bessacarr. Wanderer would know.
Sheffield Centralians - Ask Jamesie Bawtry Road somewhere.
Kiveton Park - have always (in pyramid years) played at current ground and still do - Yep, me brother played for 'em.
Blidworth Welfare - ditto
Priory (Eastwood) - Tinsley Park, right next to the A610 at Eastwood, folded and Nuthall moved in, now kids football I believe
York Railway Institute - No idea New Lane, Acomb, still there and used. I think there might still be lights up.
Denaby & Cadeby Miners Welfare - Did they not end up at Tickhill Square There was a ground overlooking Tickhill Square, not sure if they played up there.
Kimberley Town - Stag Ground, always have been
Heanor Town - Town Ground, always have been
Parramore Sports - ask Jamesie Last I saw 'em was at Davy Sports Pitch 1. Now at DVS.
Oakham United - Mansfield Hosiery Mills, on roundabout adjacent to Kings Mill Hospital, shared with cricket, now built on Eastwood Hanley - Trentmill Road, went past this the other week, assume it's still there, not sure what condition
High Green Villa - ask Jamesie Pack Horse Lane, back of that rough pub.
Louth United - Park Avenue, now used by Louth Town



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Pilkinton Recs played at a ground in Kirk Sandall, to the north east of Doncaster.

The Oakham United situation is a bit confusing. They played at the Hosiery Mills Sports Ground in Mansfield. They then moved to a different ground, but gave it the same name, but at the same time (I think) changed their name to North Notts, then later to Sutton Town.


Nothing at all confusing about Oakham (except they didn't play in Rutland!). They folded after being refused promotion to the NCEL on ground grading after winning the CML. If I recall Glapwell went up instead. A new club, North Notts, eventually formed and played on the old Hosiery Mills ground at King's Mill. Later they gained the right from the 'old' Sutton Town chairman to take on that name. The ground and social club were sold for development and a new set-up developed at the current Fieldings site. The associated cricket club are in the Notts Premier League.


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Pilkinton Recs played at a ground in Kirk Sandall, to the north east of Doncaster.

The Oakham United situation is a bit confusing. They played at the Hosiery Mills Sports Ground in Mansfield. They then moved to a different ground, but gave it the same name, but at the same time (I think) changed their name to North Notts, then later to Sutton Town.



Oakham United folded at the end of the 1995-96 as the
Central Midlands Supreme Division Champions.
As far as i remember their ground at the Hosiery Mills, Mansfield Road
near to Kings Mill Hospital wasn't up to NCE standards and not enough
money to put it up to NCE standards, so they folded.
I could be wrong but i don't think they ever played at the Hosiery Mills
ground on Huthwaite Road, which is on the other side of Town.
Rainworth Gordon might know better on this.
The Hosiery Mills ground on Huthwaite Road has had various names over
the years.Co-Operative ground was one and probably best remembered
as Betts and Broughton.
Sutton Town FC now play there and is known as The Fieldings, but i
think its not the same pitch.I think the old Betts and Broughton is now
the cricket ground.
Anyway back to the Hosiery Mills on Mansfield Road in the 2000-01
season newly formed North Notts FC(nothing to do with Oakham utd),
played that one season on Mansfield Road.
The following season 2001-02 North Notts FC moved to the Hosiery
Mills on Huthwaite Road.And then in 2002-03 they became known as
Sutton Town and then the ground became known as The Fieldings.
Easy when you've lived near the ground for so long.....Not!!
To make the Hosiery Mills Huthwaite road ground a bit more confusing,
i think Sutton Trinity may have had a spell there prior to North Notts.
but they also had nothing to do with Oakham United, North Notts or
Sutton Town.And furthermore Sutton Trinity also used to play at
New Hucknall Colliery Ground, i don't know if this was another name
for the Betts and Broughton. Help me Gordon.
I'm going to rest my brain now.


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Further notes:

Bradley Rangers' site has been taken up by an Asian-based community club and done up with a big Football Foundation grant. I saw it being built but haven't been back, expect it's just a pavilion and pitches.

Pilkington Recs was in Moor Lane, Kirk Sandall, still has its cover and still used.

I think Oakham's ground is now under the B&Q?


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Where did Huthwaite FC play?



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Where did Huthwaite FC play?



Not sure, but

In 1987, Huthwaite FC completed a remarkable rise from being anchored to the bottom of the local Sutton and Skegby League without a win to their name in 1980 to conquerors of Notts and the Midlands, winning the Central Midlands League Premier Division, Premier Division Cup and Notts Senior Cup treble.In 1987, Huthwaite FC completed a remarkable rise from being anchored to the bottom of the local Sutton and Skegby League without a win to their name in 1980 to conquerors of Notts and the Midlands, winning the Central Midlands League Premier Division, Premier Division Cup and Notts Senior Cup treble.

Winning 11 trophies in seven years, Trev Wass' side were the talk of Nottinghamshire as they beat Rainworth MW to lift the Notts Senior Cup before beating Graham St Prims on penalties at the City Ground to lift the Central Midlands Premier Division Cup. They ultimately folded when their ground was deemed unsuitable for the club to step up to the Supreme Division and a proposed ground share at Alfreton Town fell through.

I would think it would be where Sutton Town play now.


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Re: [IAN S] Re:Old Grounds or Reply Privately

Reference your comment "Wombwell Town, played at Station Road, never been called Dorothy Hyman Stadium, that has always been in Cudworth, where she came from" did not ring right with me and searching through my old FA Non-League Handbooks I found the following on page 405 of the 1983-84 edition - "Address & Tel No of ground: Dorothy Hyman Stadium, Ststion Road, Wombwell (Barnsley 752960)".



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Re: [fredkirkbytown] Re:Old Grounds or Reply Privately

Thought I'd done this ground as Oakham United, it appears I was wrong. Still think I've done it with Sutton Trinity though, although it must have been done up a bit since then because it was a bit of a dump and Sutton were worst team in NC East South One.

Huthwaite played at ground of Sutton Trinity, (New Hucknall Colliery) according to Central Midlands handbook.



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Reference your comment "Wombwell Town, played at Station Road, never been called Dorothy Hyman Stadium, that has always been in Cudworth, where she came from" did not ring right with me and searching through my old FA Non-League Handbooks I found the following on page 405 of the 1983-84 edition - "Address & Tel No of ground: Dorothy Hyman Stadium, Ststion Road, Wombwell (Barnsley 752960)".


My Dad has told me a couple of times that there were 2 Dorothy Hyman stadiums in the Barnsley area.

She was born in Cudworth (the same pit village as Michael Parkinson) and the football/athletics stadium there was named in her honour. I'm sure that this is the same complex where the short-lived AFC Barnsley played before moving to one of the pitches just outside Oakwell.

However, I believe that Dorothy Hyman trained at Wombwell, and the stadium there was also named after her, when Wombwell were in the NCE league. The stadium has now been renamed the Wombwell Sports Stadium. I made a slight detour there in October, before taking in a Sheffield Association Cup tie behind Wombwell Cricket ground (where Wombwell Main play). There is still a pitch there and it looked to have been used recently.


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Oakham United folded at the end of the 1995-96 as the
Central Midlands Supreme Division Champions.
As far as i remember their ground at the Hosiery Mills, Mansfield Road
near to Kings Mill Hospital wasn't up to NCE standards and not enough
money to put it up to NCE standards, so they folded.
I could be wrong but i don't think they ever played at the Hosiery Mills
ground on Huthwaite Road, which is on the other side of Town.
Rainworth Gordon might know better on this.
The Hosiery Mills ground on Huthwaite Road has had various names over
the years.Co-Operative ground was one and probably best remembered
as Betts and Broughton.
Sutton Town FC now play there and is known as The Fieldings, but i
think its not the same pitch.I think the old Betts and Broughton is now
the cricket ground.
Anyway back to the Hosiery Mills on Mansfield Road in the 2000-01
season newly formed North Notts FC(nothing to do with Oakham utd),
played that one season on Mansfield Road.
The following season 2001-02 North Notts FC moved to the Hosiery
Mills on Huthwaite Road.And then in 2002-03 they became known as
Sutton Town and then the ground became known as The Fieldings.
Easy when you've lived near the ground for so long.....Not!!
To make the Hosiery Mills Huthwaite road ground a bit more confusing,
i think Sutton Trinity may have had a spell there prior to North Notts.
but they also had nothing to do with Oakham United, North Notts or
Sutton Town.And furthermore Sutton Trinity also used to play at
New Hucknall Colliery Ground, i don't know if this was another name
for the Betts and Broughton. Help me Gordon.
I'm going to rest my brain now. Fred, Sutton Trinity played on a pitch that is now part of Mansfield Hosiery Mills Cricket Club, but in those days it fronted Huthwaite Road (there is a nursing home on the main road now and the cricket ground is behind). This used the be the old Huthwaite CWS ground. Hard by this was the Betts and Broughton ground which is on the site where the current Sutton Town play, but in those days the pitch was at right angles to the present position. This was the ground occupied by Huthwaite who won the Central Midlands Premier but failed on ground grading for promotion to the Supreme. There was talk of a groundshare at Alfreton because one man had connections with both clubs, but when that fell through the club folded. Sutton Trinity played one or two seasons in the old Midland League Division One and were managed by Roger West, a good mate of mine, but when Roger moved to take over at Blidworth, Trinity concentrated on what was then a thriving youth section instead and dropped out of senior football.



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Sutton Trinity were founder members of the NCE before, as you say, they dropped into local football.
Retford Rail & Brook Sports were among the other long, lost and almost forgotten founder members.....



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This would explain this. Apart from the lack of floodlights the stadium at Cudworth was far better than the exposed training ground AFC Barnsley moved into at Oakwell.

Incidently does anyone know if the Brook Sports that used to be in Yorkshire League are the same company that Brook Motors were/are who are still in Huddersfield & District League but don't play in Honley anymore at the overgrown ground there that used to have a stand?



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...Brook Motors who are still in the Huddersfield & District League but don't play in Honley anymore at the overgrown ground there that used to have a stand?
Just found a photo of it, what a shame it's gone. Unsure






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Regards the Bradley Rangers ground; do not Storthes Hall of the West Riding Amateur League play there now?

Incidentally founder of Brook Sports, Arthur Brook, was in the scrap metal business so was the Brook Motors a different thing altogether?


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Brook Motors and Brook Sports are entirely different clubs.

Brook Sports were based in Batley. They played in the West Riding County Amateur League for a couple of seasond after dropping out of the NCE.

Brook Motors are a Huddersfield club who also played for a few seasons in the West Riding County Amateur league.

Storthes Hall play on roughly the same site as Bradley Rangers, but the pitch is a few yards where the Bradley Rangers pitch was. The whole Warrenside complex bears no resemblance to what it did a couple of decades ago.



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Many thanks for that Rob, I thought they were probably different.


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and I take it Staveley played at inkersall road.

Any help would be welcomed

I don't know if the original poster is still around but Staveley (Works) played on their own ground at Handley Wood in Barrow Hill. It was very close to the now railway museum. Other things I recall were you had to go down a steep embankment, with steps to help, to get to the pitch from the entrance and there was a huge cinder track next to it which as a kid I hoped would be used for long track speedway one day. Looking at Google Earth there is no sign of the venue although a golf driving range retains the Handley Wood name.


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...but Staveley Works played on their own ground at Handley Wood in Barrow Hill. It was very close to the now railway museum. Other things I recall were you had to go down a steep embankment, with steps to help, to get to the pitch from the entrance and there was a huge cinder track next to it which as a kid I hoped would be used for long track speedway one day. Looking at Google Earth there is no sign of the venue although a golf driving range retains the Handley Wood name.


Phil, the golf driving range sits pretty much where the pitch was, although whereas the range runs roughly south/north the pitch ran roughly west/east. They obviously moved a lot of earth around to create the current layout. Up until fairly recently a solitary old floodlight pylon sat forlornly rusting away in the north-east corner (near to the house) but has since been removed.

If anyone happens to have the 1985 FA Non-League Directory there's a couple of photo's that show the former layout of the ground to good effect. The first pic (p54) is taken from the far end and shows the steep embankment with cars parked above it and the second pic (p471) is taken from the embankment looking north-eastwards towards the house (still there!) which is situated at the end of the lane between the driving range and the railway depot.



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Whereabouts in Honley was the Brook Motors ground with the stand?


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Thanks for the update Nick. I assumed it could have been the driving range site but couldn't visualize it from Google Earth, no doubt owing to the excavations you mention. We went past it on the vintage bus to the Barrow Hill beer festival a couple of years ago but I didn't recognize any of it, although I watched matches there a few times. BTW the beer festival there is the best I've ever done!!!


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Whereabouts in Honley was the Brook Motors ground with the stand?


South side of New Mill Road in Brockholes, next to the former Brook Crompton factory. From Google Maps it looks like the clubhouse was bang opposite the sewage works' circular tank thingies.

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First time I ever spotted the old Brook Motors ground was during a 5 mile road race in 1994. I couldn't stop and look because I was winning the race at the time....



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First time I ever spotted the old Brook Motors ground was during a 5 mile road race in 1994. I couldn't stop and look because I was winning the race at the time....


At the time? So by the end did you think you might as well have stopped, or did you win?


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I won :) Too busy collecting prizes to jog back and take a look afterwards :)



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I wouldn't swear to it for 86 but around that time they did play at Don Valley Stadium. They also had a spell at Owlerton Stadium which was essentially a speedway track but I'm not sure of the actual date.

I knew they played at both as remember us beating them at Owlerton but just do know where there played in the 80's


Sheffield FC moved into the Sheffield Amateur Sports Club ground at Abbeydale Park in September 1921 (along with Sheffield Rugby Union FC, Sheffield Hockey Club, and Collegiate Cricket Club) and left in the summer of 1988, because the League had complained about the distance between changing rooms and pitch. I believe the subsequent seasons were played at the following venues...

88/89 to 90/91 - Hillsborough Park (3)
91/92 to 93/94 - Don Valley Stadium (3)
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Certainly in 89/90 they were largely nomadic. I saw them at Hillsborough Arena and at Middlewood Road, a certain teams training ground.



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Yes, 'interesting' times for Club during the late '80s / early '90s...

1988 - forced to leave Abbeydale Park because of the League's demands!
88/89 - NCEL Division One champions, & promoted!
89/90 - demoted from the Premier Division after League officials decide Hillsborough Park arena is not up to premier division standards!
90/91 - NCEL Division One champions, & promoted, after the City Council offered them the use of Don Valley Stadium "until their new home at Woodbourn Road athletics stadium is ready later in the year"!

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I certainly didn't see any. I don't recall them playing there but I could be corrected on that.



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Don't think we did Ian. At that time Eagles ressies had got dibs on the Saturday afternoon slot, and we ended up having to resort to playing everywhere else - even played home games at Ossett Town IIRC.


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Eastwood Hanley played at the bottom of Trentmill Road, Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent, between the River Trent and the railway - think the pitch is still in use although the stand(s?) are pretty much gone due to vandalism.


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Just noticed thread title which includes ''& Others '' so I'll go Crewe LMR - Goddard Street ( Mid Cheshire) & Crewe Rolls Royce - Minshull New Road (Mid Cheshire )



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Speaking of Brook(s) Motors, there was an unrelated team in the Huddersfield & District, in fact they're still in there playing on some PF's in Honley! Their old ground is still there complete with a derelict stand in the village of Brockholes, now disused looking at the pitch!

Saw a programme a while back that featured Bradford Park Avenue, the actual PA ground that is. Pitch looked to be used. After searching, I've not come across a team that plays there, anyone know any different? More than likely a Sunday League team I would have thought. Wouldn't mind seeing a game there if possible before it all "modernised". The programme in question was about doing it up as a cricket ground so football pitch might disappear.

Also, I was at Temple Newsome in Leeds the other week and the ground that Leeds Ashley Road used in the Yorkshire League days is still there, complete with a very poorly looking running track around it, not sure if that is still used, one for Loiner I think to comment on.



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Also, I was at Temple Newsome in Leeds the other week and the ground that Leeds Ashley Road used in the Yorkshire League days is still there, complete with a very poorly looking running track around it, not sure if that is still used, one for Loiner I think to comment on.


Thats a blast from past Ian , think they were either champions or won Yorkshire League when I visited May 10, 1981 v Guiseley 1-1,
Good day that was Sunday (Cup Final on Sat) , they kicked off at 11-00 with Selby Town at 15-00 and Bradley Rangers at 18-45.Don't you just love reminiscing , can do it nowadays with no 'ThingyDog' posting any more.
Sure Loiner and Derek and many more were there.
Temple Newsome was horrible but didn't Leeds Ashley Rd have delusions of grandeur and only lasted another couple of seasons at that level ?



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Saw a programme a while back that featured Bradford Park Avenue, the actual PA ground that is. Pitch looked to be used. After searching, I've not come across a team that plays there, anyone know any different? More than likely a Sunday League team I would have thought. Wouldn't mind seeing a game there if possible before it all "modernised". The programme in question was about doing it up as a cricket ground so football pitch might disappear.

There isn't enough room for a full-sized pitch any more. A fitness centre was built over half the old pitch a good few years ago. The old kop is still there, now very overgrown, and you can still see where some of the turnstile entrances were.


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I was at Temple Newsam in Leeds the other week and the ground that Leeds Ashley Road used in the Yorkshire League days is still there, complete with a very poorly looking running track around it, not sure if that is still used, one for Loiner I think to comment on.


Yes, the arena pitch can still be done for Saturday football. Leodis FC of the Selby & District League play there. The pitch next door (to the west) still has white post and rail barriers down the side but are slowly being consumed by the vegetation! Not sure if Colton Athletic of the Yorkshire Amateur League use this particular pitch or not.



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I visited the Abbeydale Park ground in 1985 and saw Sheffield playing there in season 1985/86. But my records also show Wombwell playing in the Dorothy Hyman Stadium in Wombwell; is that the same ground in Station Road?

Yes it is the same ground in Wombwell. The name was transferred to the new stadium in Cudworth in the 1990's where AFC Barnsley played.


Does anyone know if any adult football is still played at Station Road, Wombwell (now known as Wombwell Recreation Ground)? It's one of the few former YL/NCEL venues I haven't seen a game at... and I'm not aware of any team using it at the moment. Unsure

By the way, the old football ground at Abbeydale Park used by Sheffield Club was sold off for housing and is now under the cul-de-sac called Ashfurlong Park. Pirate



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Also, I was at Temple Newsome in Leeds the other week and the ground that Leeds Ashley Road used in the Yorkshire League days is still there, complete with a very poorly looking running track around it, not sure if that is still used, one for Loiner I think to comment on.


Thats a blast from past Ian , think they were either champions or won Yorkshire League when I visited May 10, 1981 v Guiseley 1-1,
Good day that was Sunday (Cup Final on Sat) , they kicked off at 11-00 with Selby Town at 15-00 and Bradley Rangers at 18-45.Don't you just love reminiscing , can do it nowadays with no 'ThingyDog' posting any more.
Sure Loiner and Derek and many more were there.
Temple Newsome was horrible but didn't Leeds Ashley Rd have delusions of grandeur and only lasted another couple of seasons at that level ?


I was not watching much football in 1981 so was not in attendance, though I am sure Derek would have been.
I watched Leeds Ashley Road a few times in the mid 70,s at the Arena as it was known.
Nico has already covered the other points raised.


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Thanks for all replies, pity about Park Avenue, never got there, not old enough!

I started hopping in earnest a couple of years after 1981 and I missed a few of the old Yorkshire League grounds, including Sheffield Waterworks up at Crookes, now a fitness club.

Going even further back, did anyone on here do Heeley at all?

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When Keighley Town dropped out of the old Yorkshire League in 1947 a local poultry farmer bought many of their 'assets'. I've had no luck tracking down who it was. There was an old stand which might have been part of that purchase - still hoping that one day bits of it will turn up somewhere (even if only the painted 'Keighley Town AFC' boar)d. Not going to ask if anyone did that ground...



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I didn't start this non-league hopping lark until 1992, hence I missed 2 of Club's former grounds... Abbeydale Park and Hillsborough Park Arena. Unsure

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Thanks for all replies, pity about Park Avenue, never got there, not old enough!
I watched one game on the original ground. It was around 1986/87, which would have made me 13/14 at the time. One of the teams in the Bradford Sunday Alliance used it as their home ground. I can just about remember walking around the crumbling weed covered terraces, which were the only real signs that the ground had been something in the past. I can also remember being impressed with the large, flat pitch, which was a big step up from what you normally see on a Sunday morning!



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Hi Nick

Totally unscientific I'm afraid, but as naughty children we used to phone "Enquiries" from telephone boxes believing that there were a load of geniuses at the other end of the phone who knew everything and not just people who could look up a phone number for you.

On one occasion one of my "hard" mates was going to call and make a rude comment before we all legged it but his bottle went when the phone was answered and he actually asked if they knew where Heeley Amateurs played instead. I remember him being told that they played at Graves Park; following a discussion with other operators at the exchange. Absolutely no proof this was correct though.

When my pocket money wouldn't allow me to watch the Blades or Millers I shared my non league viewing between Norton Woodseats and Hampton Sports and as a non supporter at teams like Frecheville, Hallam, Arthur Lees and Treeton. Each of these had their own ground so unless there was a private area at Graves it seems it was the revenge of the harassed operators in sending us to the wrong destination.
This is one question which I am actively trying to get an answer to myself so will feed any further info to you.


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So where were the grounds of Hampton Sports and Arthur Lees?



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Hi Ian

I've just done a Google Street View and there is still evidence of both grounds (or was when the photos were taken). Further research suggests both are still in use, albeit far more open than in my youth and, in the case of Arthur Lee, the clubhouse has defintely gone. They played in Medlock Close, Handsworth, which seemingly is now used by Everest of the County Senior with a variance of the name, now being Holme Lea ( a not e) and seems to simply be an extension of Handsworth Rec. with all the fencing and shrubbery removed.

Hampton played in Waverley Lane (which now seems to have been taken over by Quarry Road). As you come along the Parkway from M1 just before the slip road to Handsworth / Darnall there is a terrace of stone built houses and it is alongside those.

Again all the trees surrounding it have all been removed although the shell of the clubhouse still appears to be there, but the covered verandah to view from has gone.

Incredibly Street View shows a sign for Middlewood Rovers at the ground with a reference to it being in Waverley Lane


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Eyup Phil, funnily enough I was down at Waverley Lane last Saturday but the game was postponed! The clubhouse may be visible on Google Maps but was burnt down in April 2014, the following link should show a photo of the remains...

https://mobile.twitter.com/...s/452732710302519296

...and it still is called Waverley Lane, not Quarry Road, Google Maps is incorrect! Wink I wasn't aware it was the former ground of Hampton's Sports, as it was used by Record Sports / Bahco Record Sports / Record Ridgway Sports / Record Marples Sports (Hatchard / County Senior) in the eighties so presumed it was the former sports ground of Record Tools Ltd. Blush

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A-ha! To answer my own question C & J Hampton Ltd founded the Record Tool Company Ltd so I was right after all! Angelic

http://www.recordhandplanes.com/history.html

http://www.fchd.info/HAMPTONS.HTM

The football team's last season seems to have been 86/87 so Middlewood Rovers JFC must have acquired the ground shortly after.

81/82 - Record Sports FC ... Hatchard Lge Div 2,
82/83 - BAHCO Record Sports FC ... Hatchard Lge Div 2,
83/84 - County Senior Lge Div 3,
84/85 - County Senior Lge Div 3,
85/86 - Record Ridgway Sports FC ... County Senior Lge Div 2,
86/87 - Record Marples Sports FC ... County Senior Lge Div 2.




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TBH Nick I had no real idea of their title although assumed they were named after a local company. Moore and Wrights (who made precision micrometres) was just over the road, where the Asda Superstore is now and I felt there may be a link there, so only half a million miles away from being right, rather than the full seven digits.

Pleased you found this out as with my current base darn sarf Hampton is a totally different thing (or should I say thingy?).

Interesting about Google; if I paid a subscription to them I'd ask for it back. On Street View it is Quarry Road listed on the panorama all the way around from Hall Road as it is their maps. Obviously it must be a bit of an older view around Waverley (where I am a recently demolished horse chestnut tree is not showing so it is very recent here).

It makes it a bit sadder to see the photo link to the burned out clubhouse. Ironically when I used to go they had one of those free-standing coal burners, like they used to tunnel under in PoW movies, in the middle of the tea bar floor with the flue going up through the roof. I used to take my 2 year old sister with me and remember very well the ladies selling the teas warming her up in front of it before they would let me take her home, with a lung full of coal fumes and no doubt adults with blistered hands from touching the unprotected flue!!!

I have a photo somewhere of the clubhouse/tea bar, sadly in pre-digital days so stored away without easy access and also one of the Orgreave Colliery ground on a jaunt oop north; when I thought that the airport development would cover the whole area(it did Orgreave but not Waverley). I know you aren't a chaser but the only bit of paper I have for them was from an away match at Scarborough before the days of club histories in programmes.

BTW (totally unrelated) I am still dining out on your tale of getting in to a youth game as a relation of one of the (Bristol City?) players. Everyone anticipates the punchline but still howl with laughter when I confirm it.


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Brook Motors and Brook Sports are entirely different clubs.

Brook Sports were based in Batley. They played in the West Riding County Amateur League for a couple of seasond after dropping out of the NCE.

Brook Motors are a Huddersfield club who also played for a few seasons in the West Riding County Amateur league.

Brooks Sports played at Thorncliffe Road, Batley. I saw them there v Wombwell in Yorkshire League Div. 3 on 27/12/75 (2-1).

As regards Sheffield FC at Hillsborough Park I saw them there against Maltby MW in NCE 1 on 17/9/88 (3-1).


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BTW (totally unrelated) I am still dining out on your tale of getting in to a youth game as a relation of one of the (Bristol City?) players. Everyone anticipates the punchline but still howl with laughter when I confirm it.


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I'd love to but had better await the OK from Nico. Not that it is totally contentious (just a bit Wink). Also helps if you know Nico and is much better delivered verbally.
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He he he, happy days! Yes it was Bristol City (at Crystal Palace FC's fortress-like training ground) but since all aspects of modern life are now blighted by the PC brigade I'm sure there will be some sensitive types on here that will be offended, so best not put it on t'internet! Wink

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No problem mate; I am very PC and found it hilarious but know what you mean.

So sorry to Bomaya, although you asked very nicely I'll have to leave you guessing. Next time I'm at Merstham (subject to the new date Kingstonian Vets v Middlesex Wanderers maybe) I will maybe look you up and tell you. Obviously I would then have to kill you Laugh


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I'm curious to know, particularly of those grounds in Sheffield and Hillsborough Park where Sheffield FC played, were any of the grounds developed at all? I.e. did they have hard standing, stands, railed/roped etc?


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The Sheffield Water Works / Yorkshire Water ground in Crookes was just a pitch with a stone wall perimeter following the pavement.
It probably had changing facilities up the hill but we just used to play "scratch" games on there (circa 90-92) and we only lived a hundred yards away or so and had keys for gate - why? as I explained to the angry grounds keeper when challenged we all worked for Yorkshire Water and paid our Sports and Social subs.
Decent pitch as I remember.


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Hillsborough Park Arena looks pretty basic (from Google maps) but Abbeydale Park had a rickety old wooden stand and was railed off. There is a photo of the ground in the 1989 NL Directory.



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Hillsborough Park, Middlewood Road, were just pitches, think they got round ground grading by saying they were there only temporary, which indeed they were.

Abbeydale Park never had any seats, just a wooden "pavilion" with a bit of cover but you had to get in there early if it was wet. Great setting in autumn with the surrounding trees in all colours. They used to do a programme of sorts in seventies, a single sheet that looked like it had been printed on Izal bog roll!



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Does anyone know who used to play in Overton between Wakefield and Huddersfield? The ground is shared with Denby Grange CC but there is/was a football pitch, railed on 2 or 3 sides and a small stand on the half way line


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Denby Grange Athletic when I saw it in 2005. Other WYL Wakefield clubs may have played there also. The ground was probably connected with Denby Grange Collieries.


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I remember Middlestown playing there in 1980's. Then Wakefield fc had a season in the 1990's. Both teams playing in the west Yorkshire league.


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Went through Royston not long back on way to Upton and came across a ground with some cover and fully enclosed. Not actually in Royston but I can't remember whether it was this side of it or the other. At a guess it was Ryhill & Havercroft, can anyone confirm?



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Ian, don't think its Ryhill and Havercroft, they play in Ryhill and you can't see the ground from the main road. You have to go through an estate to get to it, and I don't think there is any cover.


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Definitely not Ryhill - just a railed off pitch next to cricket - how about Spark Lane, Mapplewell? In between the B6428 and the site of the old North Gawber Colliery.



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North Gawber's old ground? In which case why did they move?



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Hi Phil, re: http://www.fchd.info/HEELEYAM.HTM

...asked the following question on the Sheffield Forum...

Does anyone know where Heeley Amateurs FC played their home matches? They were members of the Yorkshire League in the Sixties & Seventies but that's all I really know about them. Did they have their own ground, or just rent someone else's?

...and got this reply...

I played with Heeley Amateurs 1976/7ish, used to run from Tramways on London Road and played home games at Dinnington Miners Welfare, 3 men and a dog was our usual gate. I think the second team played at Killamarsh Miners Welfare.

...so it seems they didn't have a ground of their own after all?



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North Gawber's old ground? In which case why did they move?


Is this the ground you saw?...

http://media.rightmove.co.uk/...mapp_IMG_04_0000.jpg

...don't know if NGC FC's adult Saturday side ever played there, but if they did they probably left due to vandalism. I had a butcher's 3 years ago and the base of the stand was absolutely covered by broken glass/bottles etc. Unsure



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Yes that's the one. Does anyone play there now do you know?



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I often go on that forum and even did an Heeley search. Never thought of posing the question myself, doh!!!

The moral is never trust a telephone operator and adds fuel to the fire of my rational dislike of the 118 ads.

Maybe clutching at straws but my childhood dealings were around 10 years earlier so did they move. Certainly is a distance from the Tram to Din'ton.
Thanks to Chapeltom's enquiry I can switch to bragging mode as I was a bit of an athlete in those day; many may say I still am!! And used to compete in the Regionals at Hillsborough Park, sadly failing to progress to the Nationals, although beating a future world champion (got it in) one year.

At that stage the building still there had a tea bar in the middle and changing rooms either side, although once changed you had to take your clothes outside and leave them with a responsible person as they were so small.

In front and either side of the building were around 6 steps of terracing and to the roght as you looked foldable metal and wood chairs, which I think had a back wall to give them a sort of segregation feel.

Other than my own athletics events I only ever went once as a soectator when a made played in goal for Darnall Baptists in the Bible Class League Cup Final. A group of us went to support him and sat in the seats


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Yes that's the one. Does anyone play there now do you know?


Don't think so, Ian, NGC's youth teams have played there in the past but not this season it seems? Nobody else showing on 'find a club' as playing there neither.

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Phil, did you ever get to see any games at the old Ball Inn Ground on Myrtle Road? Never got there myself, but I understand it was floodlit! Shocked



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To my shame I only did one match there, a Saturday morning Northern Intermediate League game, although I went past many times afterwards. It was on a plateau next to the pub and you entered via a steep driveway to the left of the pub as you looked from the street.

Paid a nominal sum to get in but no paper. The only player I can remember was Ian Holmes who had greater success at York in later years. Had a fence and advertising hoardings along the Myrtle Road side. Can't remember if there was any cover but definitely no seats.

You are correct that there were floodlights but for various reasons I missed out on midweek games, which always seemed to fall victim to the weather whenever I made efforts to go.

It was on the left hand side coming from Norfolk Park, before the bend in the road. Looking on Google Earth there seems to be a side road with a large area of grass running along Myrtle Road which I assume was the location. No sign of the pub though.


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I often go on that forum and even did an Heeley search. Never thought of posing the question myself, doh!!!

The moral is never trust a telephone operator and adds fuel to the fire of my rational dislike of the 118 ads.

Maybe clutching at straws but my childhood dealings were around 10 years earlier so did they move? Certainly is a distance from the Tram to Din'ton.
Thanks to Chapeltom's enquiry I can switch to bragging mode as I was a bit of an athlete in those days; many may say I still am!! and used to compete in the Regionals at Hillsborough Park, sadly failing to progress to the Nationals, although beating a future world champion (got it in) one year.

At that stage the building still there had a tea bar in the middle and changing rooms either side, although once changed you had to take your clothes outside and leave them with a responsible person as they were so small.

In front and either side of the building were around 6 steps of terracing and to the right as you looked foldable metal and wood chairs, which I think had a back wall to give them a sort of segregation feel.

Other than my own athletics events I only ever went once as a spectator when a mate played in goal for Darnall Baptists in the Bible Class League Cup Final. A group of us went to support him and sat in the seats.

Did the original post over a pub breakfast, on iPad, so just editing out spelling and grammar errors here. Nothing new to add.



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Did a few N.I. games at Ball Inn in my youth, can't remember if it had floodlights though.

Remember running around Hillsborough Park track myself but never saw a footie game there until it was modernised. Seen a few Hillsborough Hawks games in the summer, great venue when bar is open.



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To my shame I only did one match there, a Saturday morning Northern Intermediate League game, although I went past many times afterwards. It was on a plateau next to the pub and you entered via a steep driveway to the left of the pub as you looked from the street.

Paid a nominal sum to get in but no paper. The only player I can remember was Ian Holmes who had greater success at York in later years. Had a fence and advertising hoardings along the Myrtle Road side. Can't remember if there was any cover but definitely no seats.

You are correct that there were floodlights but for various reasons I missed out on midweek games, which always seemed to fall victim to the weather whenever I made efforts to go.

It was on the left hand side coming from Norfolk Park, before the bend in the road. Looking on Google Earth there seems to be a side road with a large area of grass running along Myrtle Road which I assume was the location. No sign of the pub though.


Ball Inn pub still showing on Street View, bang opposite junction with Thornborough Road, although could well be closed/demolished by now? The location of the entrance to the ground (driveway) can still be ascertained if you look closely at the pavement to the left of the pub! Blush I believe the ground was built on in the early 2000's (Myrtle Close/Drive/Crescent).



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...but Staveley Works played on their own ground at Handley Wood in Barrow Hill. It was very close to the now railway museum. Other things I recall were you had to go down a steep embankment, with steps to help, to get to the pitch from the entrance and there was a huge cinder track next to it which as a kid I hoped would be used for long track speedway one day. Looking at Google Earth there is no sign of the venue although a golf driving range retains the Handley Wood name.

Phil, the golf driving range sits pretty much where the pitch was, although whereas the range runs roughly south/north the pitch ran roughly west/east. They obviously moved a lot of earth around to create the current layout. Up until fairly recently a solitary old floodlight pylon sat forlornly rusting away in the north-east corner (near to the house) but has since been removed.


Found a decent image (from 1952) that shows the cinder track you mention...
http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/eaw044348 ...and it looks like the S.W. sports ground is a fairly new construction when the photo was taken. Didn't know it had 3 bowling greens! By the way, some people think that the old 'Blue Fly' football pitch on Campbell Drive was the former ground of Staveley Works FC... but it wasn't! Wink



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I often go on that forum and even did an Heeley search. Never thought of posing the question myself, doh!!!
The moral is never trust a telephone operator and adds fuel to the fire of my rational dislike of the 118 ads.
Maybe clutching at straws but my childhood dealings were around 10 years earlier so did they move. Certainly is a distance from the Tram to Din'ton.


It's amazing what you can find out if you just ask...
Went to SLA versus WW at Worksop last night and an old friend from Sheffield was there. I asked him if he ever watched non-league football in the 60's & 70's in Sheffield, particularly Heeley Amateurs. He said he used to watch 'Club' and Norton Woodseats, but not Heeley and didn't know where they played. Unbelievably, the old guy sat next to me on the other side said... "I've been a linesman at Heeley Amateurs back in the 60's - they played at Inkersall Road, Staveley - where the present Staveley Miners Welfare play"!!! Shocked



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Did a few N.I. games at Ball Inn in my youth, can't remember if it had floodlights though.

Remember running around Hillsborough Park track myself but never saw a footie game there until it was modernised. Seen a few Hillsborough Hawks games in the summer, great venue when bar is open.
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Was, to be polite, not the best of track surfaces but it seemed better than the school track, which was literally marked over the football pitches with ruts all over as a result. After "retiring" and heading south I went to a match at the Military stadium in Aldershot and afterwards had a walk on their new (at the time) "tartan" track. With nobody looking I decided to do a lap and literally flew wearing my street gear and having not trained for years. If only we'd had that at Hillsborough.

Sadly whenever I head to Sheffield the Hawks never seem to have a home game but I was a regular at their away matches down south when they started.



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Loads of stuff to reflect on Nick. Appreciate the updates.


In my collection I have a programme from Ash House when I took in a game at Meadowhead. More of a doorstop but among the very interesting stuff was their equivalent of the Sheffield "grounds for concern" thread on here. They referred to several local grounds which seemed to be on borrowed time. Apart from Owlerton, which to my relief is still in use and with even better facilities (other than the lack of seating), the only other one I can recall in the article is the Ball Inn. There was at least one photo of the ground accompanying the article so if I ever get a free week I'll look it out and do a scan for here.


Love the coincidence theory kicking in again. Incredible about the Heeley linesman. I was at least correct that they had moved but again Inkersall Road is hardly on the doorstep, so would never have thought that. My partner's boss came in to work one day; he lives about 80 miles away and told her he had met a couple of nice guys going to watch their team play his on the train home. They had such a great chat they exchanged details. It turned out they were a couple of friends of mine, who my partner obviously knew and stunned her boss by giving their names to him. So coincidence one there. He was then on Mastermind answering questions related to WW1, which was his interest. Following this it was then established that he had been a neighbour of my friends grandfather who had given him his father's WW1 medals owing to his interest. On discovering this he gave them to my friend so that family now have the great grandfather's wartime medals. Nobody involved lives within 100 miles of the village where they were neighbours now.


Two incredible coincidences for the price of one there. The third is that the match they were attending was postponed twice so it was only a very late rearrangement which led to them being on the same train with all the links. One for the general discussion thread methinks.


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Does anyone know if any adult football is still played at Station Road, Wombwell (now known as Wombwell Recreation Ground)? It's one of the few former YL/NCEL venues I haven't seen a game at... and I'm not aware of any team using it at the moment. Unsure


As I was passing though Wombwell yesterday, I popped into the Rec to take some pictures. The covered terracing is still in reasonable condition and the floodlights are also still in situ and look as though they may be in working order. A woman there, running some sort of athletics activity for children, told me that "Hoyland Falcons" use the ground sometimes but the grass, which was indeed on the long side, could not be cut recently due to the wet weather.


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Does anyone know if any adult football is still played at Station Road, Wombwell (now known as Wombwell Recreation Ground)? It's one of the few former YL/NCEL venues I haven't seen a game at... and I'm not aware of any team using it at the moment. Unsure


As I was passing though Wombwell yesterday, I popped into the Rec to take some pictures. The covered terracing is still in reasonable condition and the floodlights are also still in situ and look as though they may be in working order. A woman there, running some sort of athletics activity for children, told me that "Hoyland Falcons" use the ground sometimes but the grass, which was indeed on the long side, could not be cut recently due to the wet weather.


Thanks for the reply Mick.
Funnily enough, I took some pictures at the Rec back in December... https://twitter.com/...s/673837641264177152 ...at a Hoyland Common Falcons game! Wink



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...Brook Motors who are still in the Huddersfield & District Lge but don't play in Brockholes anymore at the overgrown ground that used to have a stand. Just found a photo of it, what a shame...




Brook Motors' old stand is actually still there - but it's not looking too good these days...





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