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Oxford United lost their 4th successive league game by the odd goal today to go bottom of the league. Heard the phone in on Radio Oxford and many of the fans are quite happy. Most are delighted that Oxford now play football and not kick and rush or long ball. Best football I have seen from United for years one bloke said. Appleton will be our saviour after the "rubbish" served up by Wilder said another. We know if it went on for a few more games they would be calling for heads to roll but it's quite refreshing to hear such comments. To be fair to them they called for Ian Atkins to go when they were 2nd in the league a few years ago as they could not stand his brand of football. The pundits (if they are pundits on local radio) are split but most are in favour of the new type of football. You won't win anything with kids will you?. Many of the squad are under 21.


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Appleton's win ratio across his managerial career must be quite low, I'd hazard a guess.........Crazy


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Oxford United lost their 4th successive league game by the odd goal today to go bottom of the league. Heard the phone in on Radio Oxford and many of the fans are quite happy. Most are delighted that Oxford now play football and not kick and rush or long ball. Best football I have seen from United for years one bloke said. Appleton will be our saviour after the "rubbish" served up by Wilder said another. We know if it went on for a few more games they would be calling for heads to roll but it's quite refreshing to hear such comments. To be fair to them they called for Ian Atkins to go when they were 2nd in the league a few years ago as they could not stand his brand of football. The pundits (if they are pundits on local radio) are split but most are in favour of the new type of football.


I listened to this too. My own take on it was, wasn't it a nice surprise for Pompey to play rubbish and still manage to win?!

In all honesty, most of the people who phone up Radio Oxford are barking fruitcakes anyway (as are the pundits). They all spent so much time and energy calling for Wilder's head (and previously Atkin's and Talbot's, and on several occasions even Jim Smith's!) that they never stopped to consider what would happen next.

The club is in an appalling position off the pitch, with mounting debts and unaffordable rents owed to a man who has not a grain of sympathy for them or their fans. There has been a total lack of ambition and direction at the club for way too many years - I hate to say it but the Kassam Stadium is the only fresh idea the club has had since Robert Maxwell pissed off to Derby, and its now a millstone round their necks. I'd go as far as to say that they're in an even worse situation than Coventry City, whose exile in Northampton has at least kept them in the eye of national journalists with the resulting publicity to their cause.

I'm pretty darn sure that Appleton won't make any difference. His management track record has involved short stints at clubs in crisis where he's had little affect before bailing out fast (though admittedly the crises have been due to off-the-pitch boardroom shambles... actually, that sounds just like Oxford United!) Wilder was stubborn enough to keep plugging away and work at some semblance of consistency - if the results don't come soon, Appleton will jump before he's pushed and the whole shambolic merry-go-round will start again.

And as for the fans liking all this delightful football that's being played, how do they think that's going to happen once the rain starts and London Welsh have reverted the pitch back to the state of a soiled cat-litter tray? One of the most amazing things I've ever seen at a football match was last season at Oxford's home defeat to Fleetwood, when the home fans spent the whole of halftime booing and abusing the groundstaff who were forking the pitch!

Oxford United wholeheartedly cocked-up last season, and their end-of-season form was the worst in a very weak League Two. This season the division be much stronger with Luton, Cambridge, Stevenage and Shrewsbury, plus improvements at Morecambe, Plymouth, Nothampton and Pompey (plus Southend, Burton, Bury and more being just as good as they were last season). Oxford's fixtures next month against Exeter and Accrington already have the look of six-pointers about them, because if they lose either/both then the hole suddenly gets that much deeper. And believe me, they stand a good chance of losing them.

But all is not lost. It's still early in the season, and if they do go into Christmas still in the bottom two then they could do worse than poach that excellent manager up at Northampton Town - he's got a proven record of keeping sides up! Unsure


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Oxford United lost their 4th successive league game by the odd goal today to go bottom of the league. Heard the phone in on Radio Oxford and many of the fans are quite happy. Most are delighted that Oxford now play football and not kick and rush or long ball. Best football I have seen from United for years one bloke said. Appleton will be our saviour after the "rubbish" served up by Wilder said another. We know if it went on for a few more games they would be calling for heads to roll but it's quite refreshing to hear such comments. To be fair to them they called for Ian Atkins to go when they were 2nd in the league a few years ago as they could not stand his brand of football. The pundits (if they are pundits on local radio) are split but most are in favour of the new type of football.


I listened to this too. My own take on it was, wasn't it a nice surprise for Pompey to play rubbish and still manage to win?!

In all honesty, most of the people who phone up Radio Oxford are barking fruitcakes anyway (as are the pundits). They all spent so much time and energy calling for Wilder's head (and previously Atkin's and Talbot's, and on several occasions even Jim Smith's!) that they never stopped to consider what would happen next.

The club is in an appalling position off the pitch, with mounting debts and unaffordable rents owed to a man who has not a grain of sympathy for them or their fans. There has been a total lack of ambition and direction at the club for way too many years - I hate to say it but the Kassam Stadium is the only fresh idea the club has had since Robert Maxwell pissed off to Derby, and its now a millstone round their necks. I'd go as far as to say that they're in an even worse situation than Coventry City, whose exile in Northampton has at least kept them in the eye of national journalists with the resulting publicity to their cause.

I'm pretty darn sure that Appleton won't make any difference. His management track record has involved short stints at clubs in crisis where he's had little affect before bailing out fast (though admittedly the crises have been due to off-the-pitch boardroom shambles... actually, that sounds just like Oxford United!) Wilder was stubborn enough to keep plugging away and work at some semblance of consistency - if the results don't come soon, Appleton will jump before he's pushed and the whole shambolic merry-go-round will start again.

And as for the fans liking all this delightful football that's being played, how do they think that's going to happen once the rain starts and London Welsh have reverted the pitch back to the state of a soiled cat-litter tray? One of the most amazing things I've ever seen at a football match was last season at Oxford's home defeat to Fleetwood, when the home fans spent the whole of halftime booing and abusing the groundstaff who were forking the pitch!

Oxford United wholeheartedly cocked-up last season, and their end-of-season form was the worst in a very weak League Two. This season the division be much stronger with Luton, Cambridge, Stevenage and Shrewsbury, plus improvements at Morecambe, Plymouth, Nothampton and Pompey (plus Southend, Burton, Bury and more being just as good as they were last season). Oxford's fixtures next month against Exeter and Accrington already have the look of six-pointers about them, because if they lose either/both then the hole suddenly gets that much deeper. And believe me, they stand a good chance of losing them.

But all is not lost. It's still early in the season, and if they do go into Christmas still in the bottom two then they could do worse than poach that excellent manager up at Northampton Town - he's got a proven record of keeping sides up! Unsure


You could always merge with Reading FC and call yourself Thames Valley.......Tongue
Also Northampton Town are after a new ground share club, if you need a new stadiumTongueTongue


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Appleton's win ratio across his managerial career must be quite low, I'd hazard a guess.........Crazy


His record in league and cup is...

West Brom 1 match .... 1 draw - 0%
(that was a Premiership match v. West Ham. 3-0 up at half time, before drawing 3-3)

Portsmouth 51 matches .... 13 wins, 11 draws, 23 defeats - 25%

Blackpool 12 matches .... 2 wins, 8 draws, 2 defeats - 17%

Blackburn Rovers 15 matches .... 4 wins, 5 draws, 6 defeats - 27%

Oxford United 5 matches .... 1 win, 4 defeats - 20%
(the win was in the League Cup against a collection of Bristol City's reserves. They take on West Brom in the next round tonight.)


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In all honesty, most of the people who phone up Radio Oxford are barking fruitcakes anyway (as are the pundits).


I think this applies to pretty much any local radio post-match phone in. Listening to Radio Suffolk after an Ipswich defeat really makes you despair for humanity (or yumanity as the callers would call it).


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In all honesty, most of the people who phone up Radio Oxford are barking fruitcakes anyway (as are the pundits).


I think this applies to pretty much any local radio post-match phone in. Listening to Radio Suffolk after an Ipswich defeat really makes you despair for humanity (or yumanity as the callers would call it).

Fruitcakes certainly applies to local phone in in Leicester, they are rammed with people complaining about the performance of the team in a game they have not even been to watch..


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In all honesty, most of the people who phone up Radio Oxford are barking fruitcakes anyway (as are the pundits).


I think this applies to pretty much any local radio post-match phone in. Listening to Radio Suffolk after an Ipswich defeat really makes you despair for humanity (or yumanity as the callers would call it).


According to the commentary on BBC Radio Oxford this afternoon, the reason behind Oxford United's inability to win at Southend was because of Southend's pitch. I quote:

"It looks like the back garden of someone who isn't at home that often."


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Second hand news, but according to Radio Glos reporters sat next to the Oxfordshire men on Tuesday, the texts to the radio station after Cheltenham's win were not exactly complementary about pretty passing that gets you nowhere,



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24.1%


And still clubs employ him Crazy



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Appleton's win ratio across his managerial career must be quite low, I'd hazard a guess.........Crazy

24.1%

And still clubs employ him Crazy


Gets worse. His win rate now stands at just 22.73%. Shocked


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After Saturdays draw at Exeter, 3 clubs Oxford, Exeter and Carlisle are already 4 points behind 4th from bottom Accrington. Early days I know but the games are coming thick and fast Crazy



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After Saturdays draw at Exeter, 3 clubs Oxford, Exeter and Carlisle are already 4 points behind 4th from bottom Accrington. Early days I know but the games are coming thick and fast Crazy


Oxford United are at home to Accrington Stanley tonight.

It may well still be early days as far as this season is concerned, but their poor form has been going on for nearly eight months now. Of the 29 competitive matches they've played since Chris Wilder left the club on Saturday 25th January, Oxford United have won only five.


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I'm told by my sources a number of the problems at the club at the moment are due to 5 years of overspending on the playing budget by the former manager. There was a four year plan to get Oxford into League One after they came back into the league from the Conference. Last autumn the manager started requesting a longer contract amongst other things, he had in place a one year rolling contract. The chairman was unwilling to give him an extension so it was always going to end in tears. We have seen in the past what "success" can do to club a year or two down the line. The problem with Chris Wilder like many mangers before him he would not give youth a chance, also it is rumoured he had personal problems. Oxford have had for the last few years a quite successful youth set-up but hardly any players were given a chance by the former manager who just tinkered endlessly with the team bring job lots of journeymen or players well past their sell by date on wages dwarfing those of the younger players. It was all shades of the Atkins years that eventually led to relegation, a short term fix using up the playing budget is not the way forward. Atikins released more or less the whole of the youth set up, a number of whom went onto play at far higher levels home and abroad than any of his 6 foot 4 inch clone team had ever played at. If it had not been for intervention from above and making him play Dean Whitehead who he was going to released, the club could have died. The fee that got and sell on clause helped the club for a few years.


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After several weeks of Michael Appleton hinting that Oxford United are due to dish out a good stuffing to someone one of these days, the fans finally saw on Saturday the goalfest they'd been promised...... Cambridge United 5 Oxford United 1. Cambridge are hardly setting League Two alight, so a very bad day for Oxford. And all live on telly for the world (and the fans) to see. Luckily, the early kick-off and some blanket-coverage of ice hockey meant there was little time on BBC Radio Oxford for the usual 5pm half-hour-of-grumble-othon.

Michael Appleton's win ratio at Oxford now stands at 20% (three wins in 15 matches). His career total stands at 23.4%.

Oxford United are now back in the relegation places, and next Saturday play at home to bottom-placed Tranmere Rovers, immediately followed by three tough-looking matches v. Northampton, Carlisle and Wycombe.


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Some more golden excuses aired on the BBC Radio Oxford moan-in last Saturday, following the defeat at home to Wycombe Wanderers:

Danny Hylton was very eloquent in a self-congratulatory manner about his successful opening penalty v. Wycombe. The fact that he skied his second penalty high out into the car park in stoppage-time, making the first one immaterial, seemed to pass him by. He also seemed positively delighted that, despite being the only player in the team able to score goals, a suspension means he misses the FA Cup trip to Grimsby next week (a fixture that definitely looks like a league scalping to me!)

Appleton came out with something along the lines of: "When you are one-up against a team up at the top, and they equalise, they will then come at you and try to score a second." A bit like Carlisle last week then, who also equalised against Oxford then also kept going and also got a second and also won... except Carlisle aren't near the top, but near the BOTTOM! Note to Michael: the chances are that when Oxford United throw away the lead, they are strongly likely to go on and lose whether the opposition are near the top or near the bottom - this is nothing to do with the quality of the opposition but THE QUALITY OF YOUR OWN PLAYERS!!

The most (only?) sensible comment came from a disgruntled season-ticket holder who rightly pointed out that Oxford captain Jake Wright "could not organise a day out!"

Michael Appleton's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 26.32%, with 5 wins in 19 matches.


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An Appleton update...

Despite last night's defeat at Tranmere, where Oxford United again contrived to throw away a lead and lose to supposed 'lesser' opposition (and missing out on a bumper-gate at home to Swansea City in the 3rd round), a recent run a decent form means that Oxford United is presently Michael Appleton most successful run in club management!

His win ration now stands at 30.77% with eight wins in 26 matches.


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Another Appleton update...

Despite a jammy away win at Plymouth a few weeks back, things are beginning to look really shaky for young Michael over the past three matches. First, a 1-2 home defeat to an apparently woeful Cheltenham (despite being one-up), then a dreadful 0-0 at Dagenham, and then today a 2-3 home loss to Southend (despite being 2-1 up at half time to a side reduced to ten-men after just 30mins).

Lots of dazed, confused and angry OUFC fans shouting down the telephones, but the players have come out with a whole load of classic lines like: "We're all in this together", "We'll come back next week stronger because of this", and the fantastic "We're too go to go down!"

I do actually feel incredibly sorry for Appleton and the steaming pit he now finds himself in, but am amazed that he continues to defend players who are so obviously of poor Conference standard at best.

Michael Appleton'e win ratio at Oxford United is now 28.13%, or nine wins in 32 matches.


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Its better than Buckle's record since taking over at Cheltenham. His eight league matches so far have a win % of 12.5 - Oxford being the only team we have beaten, and don't forget we followed Oxford with a 2-0 defeat at Hartlepool (who reputedly are not very good). In addition, we lost 1-0 at home to Dover in the cup.

We have conceded exactly one goal every match except the 2-0 defeat at Hartlepool, so the goals conceded is equal to Yates' final two games in charge.

No one says we are too good to go down. Of course, thanks to the miracle of goal difference, we are below Oxford.



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No one says we are too good to go down. Of course, thanks to the miracle of goal difference, we are below Oxford.


The difference is, I can't believe that the Cheltenham players have the habit of week-in-week-out going onto BBC Radio Cheesechasingshire and spouting the total testicle clap-trap that the Oxford United players do on a seemingly regular basis. Captain Jake Wright (following yet another personal stinker, at fault with all three Southend goals) ran out the now tired line of OUFC being too good to go down, probably hoping that if everyone keeps saying it, in the end everyone might actually go Newport on the last day of the season believing that tripe. Michael Collins at least had the decency to admit to the local paper that, yes, Oxford actually AREN'T too good to go down (a comment that has no doubt gone down with his teammates about as well as leaving behind a large smooth floater after first use of the changing-room communal bath).

Four of Oxford United's next five matches are against promotion chasers: Exeter and Luton at home, Stevenage and Burton away, with the fifth match being a trip to Accrington (on a cold Tuesday night in early February - be interesting to see how many of the players grab that particular opportunity with gusto).

There is personal added excitement that my own chosen donkeys, Portsmouth, are also in the thick of all this mess too (above Oxford and Cheltenham thanks only to that miracle of goal difference). I have a horrible feeling that the drama and excitement of last year's League Two relegation battle will fade to nothing when compared to what we've got heading our way over the coming three and a half months...


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And rumour has it that London Welsh are now blaming their particular woes upon the state Oxford United FC leave the pitch in every week... Wink


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I think we have to accept over half of Division Four is rubbish My sources tell Oxford are now trying to ship out anyone on a high wage or long a contact as you may as well be rubbish on a low budget than a high one. I also have been told Gary Waddock could not believe what wages some players were on when he had his brief spell in charge I think our friends at the other end of the A43 will soon be pondering a revolving door budget

As an aside there was a interestting bit along these lines on TalkSport the othrr day that QPR and Harry still has players on mega deals three years on who be does not want at the club


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A return of five points from a possible fifteen from those five difficult matches was better than I thought they'd do, but it has done little to pacify the regulars.

A late, late equaliser in a 2-2 home draw v. Exeter City had Michael commenting that:

"That felt more like a win than a draw!"

Might've felt like it, Michael, but unfortunately it wasn't! Better came with a totally unexpected 2-0 win at promotion-chasing Stevenage, followed by a 1-1 draw at home to Luton Town - a match described by some as the best performance Oxford United have played this season.

However, much of the disgruntled feelings stem from the final two matches: a pair of insipid defeats at Accrington Stanley and Burton Albion.

One notable point to have come out of these last two matches is some of the anger on the OUFC forums being aimed at the local media (BBC Radio Oxford and the Oxford Mail newspaper), who some fans are accusing of putting too much of a positive gloss on Oxford's performances. Following the Stanley match, one particularly tech-savvy United supporter, despite being sat 200 miles away in the away section, tuned in his i-phone to the BBC Radio Oxford commentary and later reported that the gobshite he listened to bore absolutely no relation to the garbage he was witnessing on the pitch in front of him!

The old duffers on the radio made up for it on Saturday, after a woeful showing at Burton, by going into overdrive with the 'R' word and asking if anyone knew the best route to Braintree. Michael finally got round to blaming the players, while the players all said that they'd learn from this experience and come back stronger as a result.... Crazy

Next week, OUFC are at home to fellow relegation strugglers Mansfield Town. The following week, they are away at Portsmouth, a side who have hardly set the division alight the way the bookies feared, but who seem to have strung some form together of late and have just gone four matches without conceding a single goal. At the moment, only Cheltenham's free-fall and the large gap that Hartlepool are having to bridge are standing between Oxford United and a proper relegation dogfight.

Michael Appleton's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 27.03% with 10 wins from 37 matches in all competitions.


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At the moment, only Cheltenham's free-fall and the large gap that Hartlepool are having to bridge are standing between Oxford United and a proper relegation dogfight.


Shame really. One of the highlights of Oxford's last spell in the underworld was listening to Radio Oxford on the road and Jerome Sale, Peter Rhoades-Brown and Nick Harris saying "What on earth are we doing here?"


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I mention Northampton early in the thread and since then they start winning OxPete calls Pompey Donkey's and they start winning then last mentions Oxford and they have there biggest win of season

Think Leo is praying we keep on having a go at Cheltenham hoping it may change there form Seems both Cambridge and Exeter are now dropping towards the lower mid table mediocrity Watch them shoot up the table


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One of the highlights of Oxford's last spell in the underworld was listening to Radio Oxford on the road and Jerome Sale, Peter Rhoades-Brown and Nick Harris saying "What on earth are we doing here?"


Would you believe that it was just ten days ago, in the warm glow of an unexpected victory away at in-form Bury, that these three wise monkeys were actually predicting the start of the bright new era in the history of Oxford United Football Club?

Last night's 0-2 home defeat against bottom-placed (but quickly improving) Hartlepool throws OUFC right back into the relegation mix. The OUFC board recently made a public statement saying that at no point this season has Michael Appleton's position been at threat, and they will fully back him for the rest of the season - which must mean that most of the 4000 daft sods forking their cash out down there last night don't know their arse from their elbow, cos they're all pretty sure this season's climax is heading towards an ugly train crash of huge proportions! Hey-ho!

As was seen at this point last season with Northampton Town, being in the bottom two can be brilliant for crystalising the mind. It seems that, however poor quality the players are at Hartlepool (three wins in the last five) and Cheltenham (just one loss in six), they appreciate that there is a job to do and they're doing their best to do it. Without doubt, I reckon this year's League Two relegation battle will easily be as exciting and as close as it was last year.

Meanwhile, the likes of Oxford United (and Cambridge United with one win in ten, and Accrington with no wins in five) are sleep-walking into this, just like Bristol Rovers, Hereford United and Lincoln City have in recent seasons. Late March is not a time for head-in-the-sand behaviour, and yet that is exactly what they're up to down the Kassam at the moment.

OUFC have nine matches left: three of them against good top sides (Shrewsbury, Wycombe and Newport and all distinctly losable), and four against fellow strugglers (Carlisle, York, Tranmere and Cambridge). And of the remaining two matches against mid-table fodder, I can just see Chris Wilder relishing the chance of bringing Northampton down to the Kassam and twisting the knife good'n'proper.

Michael Appleton's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 27.91% with 12 wins in 43 matches.


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From memory, Appleton's total managerial success record
doesn't make for pleasant reading.

Carlisle might have to call on the Glassman for the final game -
home to Hartlepool.




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From memory, Appleton's total managerial success record
doesn't make for pleasant reading.


His total managerial success record is a win ratio of 25.41%, with 31 wins from 122 matches.

Unsure


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Thought last night was Oxford's first defeat in 6 or 7 games, think Cambridge may be the ones sleep walking into relegation on form over the last 10 to 15 games.

Cheltenham and Cambridge could be a good bet for relegation now

As I have said before most of the division is consistently inconsistent.


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Oxford are 8th in the form table based on 6 games. I don't think it's quite as bad as you make out. Yes they could go down (as could Mansfield, Accrington, Cambridge, Carlisle, York, Tranmere, Cheltenham & Hartlepool) but it only takes three victories from 9 and they're definitely safe. The Carlisle game is a big one.


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I sooooo love it when I'm right... Smile




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{I}t only takes three victories from 9 and they're definitely safe. The Carlisle game is a big one.


It certainly is a big game, and its up tomorrow!! No problems whatsoever for OUFC though, because after last week's tonking by a ten-man Shrewsbury Town, all the players have come out to say about how they really are up for the challenge this time, about how focused they are, about how they owe it to the fans, blah blah blah... (this from a side who had two team-mates booked against Shrewsbury for fighting with eachother! All's well in the dressing-room then!)

According to Michael, the Shrewsbury defeat didn't really matter because Shrewsbury are very good and OUFC didn't stand a chance anyway, meaning it was a 'free' match. (This was a slightly different opinion to the majority of fans on the phone-in, who tended to feel that all remaining matches should be referred to not as 'free' but as 'cup finals'!) If OUFC need three wins to stay up, then they now have eight matches in which to do it in. Personally, I don't think they'll get them against Wycombe, Northampton or Newport, so they've got to come somewhere against Carlisle, York, Tranmere, Cambridge United (that's the four six-pointers) or Wimbledon. As Stugg93 says, tomorrow's match is best described as 'big'.

Unbelievable good news for Michael, however, comes in the shape of Shaun Derry's sacking as manager of Notts County on Monday. This means that Michael Appleton is actually now in the top half of the rankings of the longest-serving Football League managers, ranked 36th out of the 72.

Michael Appleton's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 27.27%, with 12 wins in 44 matches.


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They'll be OK... looking at Tranmere & especially Cheltenham.



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I went to today's game as a neutral. Oxford were by far the better side, and deserved to win that game by more, but a dirty and negative Carlisle and an abysmal referee put payed to that. If they go down on performances like that I'd be very surprised, but I don't think thats going to happen. Also, the Oxford fans are the most negative fans I've ever come across, for example the guy next to me shouted "Hylton's too good for us" (and not as a joke!). That said I liked the club, but I just think the team may play a bit better if the fans didn't get on them so quickly.

Finally, I would not be upset if Carlisle went down. From the very start they wasted so much time. There were also so many niggles, tugs and elbows into Oxford players, but the referees poor performance let them off on countless occasions. Also, after they had the man sent off, the condemned player very slowly walked off, then just as he walked off, another player went down "injured". Carlisle then did a substitution, when the "injured" player was taken off to the touchline, but the substitution was actually for another player that didn't come off, so for a brief moment they actually had 11 players playing again! Then the right Carlisle player came off, and the now fit "injured" player came back onto the pitch. Basically, I think Carlisle were being at best foolish and at worst dishonest, and certainly negative in their football. As for the referee, he was useless all over, although the lines men had a good day.

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A couple of callers to Radio Oxford thought the ref was one of the better ones this season! Think Oxford may lose the A40 Cotswold Derby and on current form the team from the other University city though a few more are in the mix Accrington are on a bad run


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A couple of callers to Radio Oxford thought the ref was one of the better ones this season! Think Oxford may lose the A40 Cotswold Derby and on current form the team from the other University city though a few more are in the mix Accrington are on a bad run




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Think Oxford may lose the A40 Cotswold Derby


Sorry, but it is the safest bet that Oxford will lose this one. The only match that can be called "the A40 Cotswold Derby" was lost by Oxford at the start of January.

Oxford, of course is not within a range of hills, but in the Thames Valley, between the Costwolds and the Chilterns. Cheltenham is at the foot of the Cotswolds, Wycombe (who play Oxford on Friday) are in the Chilterns.

If Oxford fans at the game are numbered in the hundreds, is this referred to as taking the Chiltern Hundreds?



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They're either wrong or they've had even worse referees! He was good with giving advantage and letting the game flow, but he got too many decisions wrong, which could have lost the result for Oxford and also allowed the red card to happen, as he didn't lay down the law enough, which caused the two yellow cards to come out of nowhere.


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Oxford is a lot nearer the Cotswolds than the Thames Valley as we all know that starts where the Chilterns meet the Berkshire Downs a mile or two north of Goring. The stone quarried (as in Headington Quarry) in Oxford is Cotswold stone but a very soft version not to good for building that is why many Oxford Colleges made of it are constantly being repaired. The area north and west of the Thames Valley is the upper Thames basin and is a holding plain for flood water, it is more or less the area covered by the Vale of the White Horse. The Thames from Oxford west is actually referred to as the West Country Thames, to be fair I did not know that until last year when an article was written on it in the Western Daily Press which is now printed in Oxford, it was used to transport coal from the Forest of Dean to Oxford to meet up with coal from the West Midlands which was then sent onto London and the South East - no I don't know how they got it from the Forest to Lechlade!. Above the Thames Valley until the 16th or 17th century the Thames was more or less a constant flood plain being two or three miles wide even on the south side of the city - this is why the Abingdon Road constantly floods in wet weather. Research shows no one is really sure of the true course of the Thames through Oxford prior to it basically being turned into an extension of the Oxford to Birmingham canal - the Castle stream had redirected it many years prior, the car park next to Gloucester Green bus station used to an inland port / basin where boats / goods where transferred over. The whole area used to be Wharf Houses and the pub of the same name still stands in the Oxpens half a mile or so from the current end of the canal. The Head of the River pub is also an old wharf house. Even the now NIMBYfied North Oxford area was a Canal community until the early part of the 20th century, and on the 1901 census boasted a number of faggot and peas shops. St Frideswide a Mercian Princess is Oxford Patron Saint and when she rising and comes amongst us the Mercian Wessex border will be reinstated on all Thames crossings, even at Eynsham. The memory has not yet gone I had to do all this when I was in the 6th form at school a few years ago now, in those days the Museum Oxford in St Aldates was a source of knowledge and as part of my work I was able to study there on a Thursday afternoon,


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...the Thames ... was used to transport coal from the Forest of Dean to Oxford to meet up with coal from the West Midlands which was then sent onto London and the South East - no I don't know how they got it from the Forest to Lechlade!


Across the Severn and then by canal: Gloucester & Sharpness, Stroudwater, Thames & Severn.


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Very interesting shows how good the Canal network was.


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Think Oxford may lose the A40 Cotswold Derby and on current form the team from the other University city though a few more are in the mix Accrington are on a bad run


Oxford United 2-0 up at Wycombe at half-time! I'm listening to it on the radio at work, and the three wise monkeys are saying OUFC are playing brilliantly! Tongue


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They'll be OK... looking at Tranmere & especially Cheltenham.


I think Hartlepool aren't safe by a long shot. They may be good at chasing the pack, but sometimes it's hard to keep it up. Newport have turned it around today and the games are running out.



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They'll be OK... looking at Tranmere & especially Cheltenham.


I think Hartlepool aren't safe by a long shot. They may be good at chasing the pack, but sometimes it's hard to keep it up. Newport have turned it around today and the games are running out.



A loss for Hartlepool at Newport was in my calcs. So by my reckoning, that'll keep 'em ahead of Tranmere by the same point or two come the end - after Rovers' point at Stevenage!
I've got Cheltenham lagging by several points in 24th. (sorry again, leo.).



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They'll be OK... looking at Tranmere & especially Cheltenham.


I think Hartlepool aren't safe by a long shot. They may be good at chasing the pack, but sometimes it's hard to keep it up. Newport have turned it around today and the games are running out.



A loss for Hartlepool at Newport was in my calcs. So by my reckoning, that'll keep 'em ahead of Tranmere by the same point or two come the end - after Rovers' point at Stevenage!
I've got Cheltenham lagging by several points in 24th. (sorry again, leo.).

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They are at Cheltenham on the 14th. You do not have to pay to get points off us.



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I think Cheltenham will win that game, and I think they may win on monday too, but I still think they've gone. I'd expect Cambridge to sneak a point against Northampton and beat Accrington and Mansfield, but I do worry for them.


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Sorry, but it is the safest bet that Oxford will lose this one.

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Oxford now have had near promotion form over the last few games - using squad players, or that is what was said on Radio Oxford yesterday though a bit late in the day but a charge to midtable mediocrity is better than nothing I suppose. And just for Oxpete they have managed at least for now to get above Pompey!. They quite like Appleton now or some of them do. The Football League Show said they scored a wonderfully worked goal yesterday, when the Roofe fell in on Tranmere.


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Oxford now have had near promotion form over the last few games - using squad players, or that is what was said on Radio Oxford yesterday though a bit late in the day but a charge to midtable mediocrity is better than nothing I suppose. And just for Oxpete they have managed at least for now to get above Pompey!. They quite like Appleton now or some of them do. The Football League Show said they scored a wonderfully worked goal yesterday, when the Roofe fell in on Tranmere.


Hmmm... different manager but same old players, I think. This isn't the first time that Oxford United have churned out some exceptionally good form at the end of a lousy season - too many players working for their new contracts or to put themselves favourably in the shop window.

Believe it or not, I am actually really happy for Michael Appleton, and I'm glad he'll now get the opportunity to have a proper stab at next season. However, he really does need to hoof out most of the dead wood. There are some useful youngsters coming through that he could make use of, and a figurehead of some sort for the fans to get behind would be no bad thing - I think they've missed Constable more than anyone realises (and looking at his form at Eastleigh this season, he can certainly still hack it at League Two level).

As for Pompey..... Unsure


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What a strange ending for Oxford, today's win at Newport (they have also won at Plymouth, Wycombe and Bury) saw them finish on a season high of 13th level on points with Northampton but with a slightly worst goal difference. The season in the end was actually positive, won as many as they lost with a goal difference of plus one. They lost the same number of games as Plymouth who are in the play-offs and finished (I think) just 9 points off of said play-offs and 20 points clear of relegation. As one caller said on Radio Oxford we have now had 15 strange seasons. It's a good job football in this country is not played from January to December as 2014 would have seen them relegated, but 2015 would see them near the top of the league. Consistently inconsistent and not only Oxford. The real positive is they have blooded youngsters and though using far to many loan signings at least they seemed to have broken the jobs for the journeymen boys ethic (the never have been never will be players) that a number of their managers have employed over the past 15 or so years.


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It'd be good to know what ACMold and Chris1963 think of this thread. Another season underway with four straight defeats, but the fans are definitely NOT happy this time...

Starting with a 0-4 stuffing at Barnsley...

Then a 0-2 home defeat to a very non-descript Fleetwood...

Then a no-doubt wonderful match, losing 1-4 at Portsmouth...

And tonight losing 2-3 at home to Accrington Stanley, after twice being a goal up.

A newly-purchased back-four have now let in 13 goals in four matches.

Their only decent player - the goalie Eastwood - is out after breaking his finger in the warm-up before the Fleetwood match.

The Thai owner Tiger is not well known for his patience.

And Oxford United fans are already shouting down the lines onto the radio waves to remind everyone that Michael Appleton is presently looking for a job!

My favourite headlines so far this season:

"Fearless U's Are Raring To Go!" immediately before the 0-4 stuffing at Barnsley.

And "Bumper Crowd Will Spur Me On, Says Oxford United Winger Gavin Whyte" before the 1-4 stuffing at Pompey.

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It'd be good to know what ACMold and Chris1963 think of this thread. Another season underway with four straight defeats, but the fans are definitely NOT happy this time...!


Well, you won’t be getting a response from Chris1963 - he’s been banned for some fairly appalling racism.

My view re Oxford - possible National League team (again) in two years.


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Well, you won’t be getting a response from Chris1963 - he’s been banned for some fairly appalling racism.


You sure about that? Wink


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My view re Oxford - possible National League team (again) in two years.


Last time this thread was active, I was left with egg on my face - laughing at Oxford United's woes all season, and yet they still managed to finish above Pompey that year. We've got a twelve-point lead over them at the moment, but I've seen us throw away even bigger gaps than that in the past...

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Saturday's Oxford Mail...

"Oxford United Are Ready For Screen Test, Says John Mousinho"

...and from manager Karl Robinson...

"We have done our homework as usual, worked hard and prepared properly and by the time we kick-off at midday tomorrow, we will be fully ready to take on Coventry."

Sunday...

Oxford United 1 Coventry City 2


On BBC Radio Wazzock, they made much out of the fact that OUFC were on a four-match unbeaten run, but seemed to brush over the reality that this included a point against 10-man Sunderland and cup wins versus Newport and Fulham U21s (which have also cosmetically pumped up Karl's win ratio, too). Their league form is still pretty dire, with five losses in seven so far this season - next week's visit to Wycombe Wanderers has now got added tension...

The pre- and post-match vox-pops were, as always, highly entertaining. Before kick-off the three wise monkeys actually managed to track down a local madman who predicted a 5-0 win for Oxford! However, after some more sloppy defending and goalie howlers, they seemed unable to find the same bloke afterwards, so instead interrogated a former poster of this forum who seemed able to sum up all OUFC's problems within sixty seconds, something Karl Robinson seems totally unable to do! Laurence for manager, eh?! Wink

It has to be said, League One really does have a weak look to it this season. Personally, I don't think Sunderland's problems are over yet, and some of their fans are getting just a little too overexcited at the moment about some really rather mundane results. All of the top five (Posh, Pompey, Barnsley, Sunderland and Walsall) are all still undefeated, but I doubt any of them would survive if transplanted into the Championship - Pompey apparently struggled to get a fortunate point at home to Shrewsbury. I still think Charlton will continue to improve as the coming weeks pass, but I doubt I'd slap money on any of the others with much confidence.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United: 35% with seven wins in twenty matches.


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10 clubs at the moment with 1 point per game or less, and no-one massively behind. At present it looks like the relegation battle may be quite competitive.



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Another floater in Oxford United's swimming pool of life...

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...-at-an-all-time-low/

...this time to do with their never-ending feud with landlord Firoz Kassam, who claims that the club owe him over £600,000 in service charges. OUFC counter this by pointing out the fact that the ground is rubbish, fans report no hot water in the north and east stand toilets, pigeon droppings over many of the seats in the south stand, and the unbelievable situation where the OUFC sponsor's product Singha Beer is not allowed to be sold inside the ground. And that's before we even get onto the subject of the historic listed wreck that is the Priory pub.

Rather than worrying about his continuing disaster in the goalie position, Karl Robinson has decided to start blaming the ground too, firstly pointing out that OUFC has to pay Firoz £3000 if they want to train on the pitch on a non-match day, and then spouting the bleedin' obvious that it's:

...probably the worst designed stadium in the country. Honestly, we hate playing there. It doesn't feel like home."

You think it's bad, Karl, you shoulda seen the place when London Welsh RFC were soiling it! Firoz hit back with...

"For the manager to blame the stadium for their poor results is rubbish."

Chairman Tiger now says he wants to move OUFC out of the Kassam Stadium, though their contract still has about seven years to run, and I doubt that Firoz will agree to end it early even if he did get his 600k. All rather messy at the moment, not helped by...

Oxford United 1-2 Walsall

Oxford United are second-bottom of League Two with five points and six defeats from nine league matches this season. But not to worry, it's only Manchester City up next!

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United is 31.8%, with seven wins from twenty-two matches.


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Saturday morning's Oxford Mail...

"Oxford United Must Silence Doubters, Says John Mousinho"

Saturday afternoon's scoreline...

AFC Wimbledon 2-1 Oxford United and another dreadful performance.

After the match, there was more of that "We're better than this" talk on the radio and on the Oxford Mail website, and yet the fans are already lost to it. Earlier this season, his post-match comments were always along the lines of losing to the top teams (Barnsley, Pompey, Fleetwood) is not necessarily a bad thing, because everyone else still has to play them (and presumably lose as well). But now OUFC are losing to the lower teams too - Wimbledon hadn't won at home all season before this match, but OUFC lost despite having plenty of possession. And he's not helped his corner by going on about the good performance v. Manchester City or the meaningless wins v. Newport and Fulham U21s. These matches really do not matter when you're second-bottom. His next problem is going to be running out of excuses...

Now Robinson is on about bringing in more back-room staff, but do you really let someone making a right pig's meal of your club bring in even MORE baggage? He's been unlucky with the injury to goalkeeper Eastwood, but many of the other players are his own signings, and they're proving out of their depth week after week, especially upfront. Unfortunately, I can't help but think that Chairman Tiger needs to take some responsibility for all this. He badly dragged his feet in the painfully slow process of recruiting Robinson as manager in the first place, and had the cheek to make it a long drawn-out drum-roll that he called the WOW factor! It made him look stupid and out-of-touch at the time, and now looks even worse. Even if/when Robinson goes, I wouldn't trust Tiger to get it right next time either.

Robinson has two matches at most (if he's lucky) to get it right, and getting it right probably means six points or else. Those two matches are at home to Luton Town on Tuesday night and away at Southend United next Saturday (both at midtable, in 12th and 13th) - Luton in particular will be a difficult match - there'll be a large away following, and if the match turns against Oxford early on, I can see the home crowd turning ugly. If Tiger gives Robinson the bullet, it'll give the new incumbent (presuming they're already considering someone?) winnable matches to start off with: home to Cobblers in the Checkatrade, and then the vitally important match at home to bottom-placed Plymouth on Saturday 13th. Unless Robinson turns things around fast, I doubt he'll be given the opportunity to cock up that one, too.

Oxford United are still second-bottom of League One, with five points and seven defeats from ten league matches this season.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United is 29.2%, with seven wins from twenty-four matches.


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After Saturdays debacle at home to Doncaster if Robinson is still in charge for the Plymouth game on Saturday 13th, maybe he & Derek Adams can swap their books of excuses. They might find a couple of new ones that they both can use Wink


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After Saturdays debacle at home to Doncaster if Robinson is still in charge for the Plymouth game on Saturday 13th, maybe he & Derek Adams can swap their books of excuses. They might find a couple of new ones that they both can use Wink


Plymouth were in a similar position for much of the first half of last season, if I remember rightly, and they managed to dig themselves out of that hole in quite some style. The knowledge that they've done it once and so can do it again might just be enough to keep the heads of the fans and the directors just focused enough to remain calm. The other thing that I notice is that (excluding the defeats to the top two of Pompey and Posh), all of Plymouth's defeats this season have been by just one goal. Perhaps the situation isn't quite as desperate at Home Park as the table makes it look (though you'll obviously be in a better position to judge that than me).

The problem with Oxford United is that the club, many of the players, some of the fans, the manager and especially the chairman have definitely not been in this position before, or at least for a good few years. Chairman Tiger has come into the club with a very high opinion of himself, and Robinson's times at MK and at Charlton tended to be marked with very good early-season form. Plenty of those of the yellow persuasion - manager, players, fans, media and chairman - are genuinely scratching their heads in confusion, disbelief and denial at the moment, and I doubt that things will improve for Oxford until they all start properly admitting the faults that exist to themselves and doing something about it (and until Eastwood's hand gets better, too).

OUFC's ability to perform a headless-chicken style when the going gets squiffy is something that they are illustrating yet again at the moment. And they're not the only ones - I notice that Bradford City seem to be quickly losing grasp of reality at the moment, too. From a Plymouth point-of-view, I think those two are definitely catchable if you can turn things around over the coming six weeks or so. Good luck!


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Desperate times call for desperate actions...

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...-uniteds-torrid-run/

...Karl Robinson is now looking for a psychologist to tell him why his players are so rubbish! The ridicule this story is generating among the OUFC fans will not be doing his cause any good at all...


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Tonight's final score...

Oxford United 1-2 Luton Town

...with the stats and the radio commentary suggesting that Luton dominated this, with 58% possession, eight shots on goal and eleven corners. Oxford United threw away the lead, their captain Shandon Baptiste was sent off with about twenty minutes to go, and Luton's winner came on 90+8mins - kicks in the teeth all round, though the performance still sounded poor. In Karl Robinson's post-match talk, he says:

"I'm staring down the tunnel and there is no light at the end of it."

More bad news for Karl comes with an away win for Bradford City and a good away point for Plymouth at Barnsley. Saturday's opponents Southend United also won away.

Oxford United are still second-bottom, with five points and eight defeats in eleven matches.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United is 28% with seven wins in twenty-five matches.


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A mixture of good news and bad news for OUFC today, though your point of view probably depends upon whether or not your name is Karl Robinson.

First the good news...

Southend United 0-0 Oxford United

...which means they didn't lose!

Southend have been on a good run of late, with three successive wins before today leaving them comfortably just above mid-table and within shooting-distance of the play-off fringes. Their manager Chris Powell is a good man who'll do well for them. So all in all, not a bad result - there are plenty of sides at the top of League One who'll be grateful for a point and a clean sheet from Roots Hall this season. Defeats for Wimbledon, Bradford and Bristol Rovers today helps to shrink the gap ever so slightly, and it's proof that there are plenty of other misfiring sides at the foot of the table. Where there's life, there's hope...

And now the bad news...

Even the three wise monkeys on BBC Radio Cretin couldn't hide the fact that, in their own words, this was an appalling match. Only one shot on target for each side, with Oxford's coming in the final seconds of stoppage-time. By the sounds of things, the conditions weren't good - blustery wind and heavy rain at times, it sounded like players on both sides found it difficult to control the ball. The point and clean-sheet might help their confidence a little, but it's still shaky foundations upon which to build any sort of revival.

More bad news comes from the away support, with only 460 OUFC fans making the relative easy journey to Essex. This compares to the consistent away turn-out of about 1300 who made the journeys to each of Barnsley, Portsmouth and Sunderland earlier in the season. There were apparently only about 400 or so who traveled to AFC Wimbledon the other week, the first time Oxford have been to Kingsmeadow and not sold their full allocation of tickets for what is one of the easiest away trips of the season. To lose two-thirds of your loyal away support in such a short period of time does not bode well.

More bad news for Karl came from Devon today, in the shape of...

Plymouth Argyle 1-0 AFC Wimbledon

...which is the result that lifts Argyle up one place and dumps Oxford back onto bottom. Symbolic rather than fatal this early in the season, but the season is now more than a quarter of the way through. It also adds extra spice to next Saturday's match, where Plymouth are the visitors to the Kassam Stadium. Jumping off the bottom might just put Plymouth in the psychological driving seat - they'll probably be happy with a draw (and they've two winnable fixtures after that too, at home to Burton and Gillingham), while the pressure for a home win is very much dumped upon Karl's shoulders. But maybe the stress isn't really that bad for him - the monkeys on the radio palmed him off with some more powder-puff questioning this evening, then cut the time for any irate fans on the telephones by devoting a big chunk of the post-match programme to talk about tomorrow's fun-run in the city centre (such is the dynamic edge of Oxfordshire sport). In fact, they did not field a single phone call from an Oxford United fan today. Seriously? Their club goes bottom, and the local BBC journalists cannot find a single ticket-buying member of the support to get on the telephone? Perhaps nobody did phone up, or maybe it's another case of a positive gloss being put on a situation that the mugs who pay at the turnstiles don't agree with...

I've kept a closer eye than normal this past week upon the OUFC fans' forum and the comments sections on the Oxford Mail site, and honestly cannot ever remember reading such vitriol aimed at a manager before. Which is terrible - Karl Robinson is a normal bloke with a family, and shouldn't have to cope with some of the things being said at the moment, whether that be shouted from the East Stand or written on the internet. But tonight I can't help feeling that a large chunk of Oxford's support are scratching their heads in disbelief that Robinson is still there after such a long run of awful results. Immediately after the Luton match, plenty of the fans were almost content with the injury-time defeat, thinking that Robinson was inevitably on his way. How wrong! I suspect this is what you get when your chairman is based 5000 miles away. As I've said before, Oxford United is the gift that just keeps on giving, though I'd be stretching things outside the bounds of reality to think they'll still be drowning in this quagmire of despair when Pompey visit in January (though we can always hope!)

A week ago I said Karl needed six points from six v. Luton and Southend to keep in his job, but what the hell do I know! Next week's match v. Plymouth is now huge, followed very quickly by an away trip to struggling Bristol Rovers. I'll put my head on the block and predict both matches will finish drawn.


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Ooops! I forgot to add the important bit...

Oxford United are now bottom of league One, with six points and one win from twelve league matches.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United is 26.9%, with seven wins from twenty-six matches in all competitions.


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My Southend supporting colleague isn't too happy this morning as on Friday we were discussing 4-0, 5-0, 6-0 type outcomes...


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Decided it was about time I took a look at the developing slow-motion car-crash presently taking place down on Grenoble Road. Fortunately, it also corresponded with my regular foray into supporting Northampton Town, so I had a thoroughly enjoyable evening in among the Cobblers' fans at...

Oxford United 1-2 Northampton Town

For two sides in desperate league positions, both in states of crisis off the pitch, playing in a competition as despised and maligned as the Checkatrade, this was a surprisingly good football match. Both sets of players showed fight and passion, Kevin van Veen scored a wundergoal from 25yards, and even when 2-1 up the Cobblers' didn't resort to the timewasting tactics you might expect a side to, but kept on attacking for a third. Excellent value for just £10. Ultimately, the result wasn't important - even with this defeat, Oxford United are in a strong position to qualify from the Checkatrade group section in a competition in which they have a strong and proud recent record. The team played quite well against robust opposition, and several of the squad's better players were welcomed back from injury, including arguably their best player goalkeeper Simon Eastwood.

However, what with everything else that's going on on Planet Kassam at the moment, the result actually WAS deemed important. If eight matches without a win is the wood and kindling beneath Karl Robinson's chair, this defeat to a Northampton Town presently 22nd in League Two is the can of petrol being spashed around his feet, and a defeat at home to Plymouth this coming Saturday will almost certainly be the struck match being tossed in his direction.

Whatever happens over the coming weeks and months, this match has still cemented itself into the record books. With an attendance of just 929, this is OUFC's lowest ever first-team home attendance (certainly since they changed their name from Headington in 1960). There were 117 Cobblers' fans, with most others sitting in the two tiers of the South Stand. The East Stand, which is home to Oxford's most vocal, loyal and passionate support, was notable for its near emptiness - well under a hundred people. Maybe even under eighty had I bothered to headcount. Despite entry being only £10 for what has over recent seasons become a spicy local derby, I can only presume that the regulars in the East Stand were making a very definite statement in their non-attendance.

For the second consecutive match, the BBC Radio Oxford phone-in had NO aired phonecalls. My guess is that they really didn't want to risk it. Listening to the on-air witterings on this station, you'd sometimes be forgiven for thinking that there's nothing wrong at all at Oxford United FC, because their summing-up rarely tallies with what you can read on the OUFC fans' forum. Another guess is that the hosts know which side their bread is buttered and don't want to rock the boat - in his post-match summary on Tuesday night, Peter Rhoades-Brown (employed by both BBC and OUFC) was as vague as ever when he said:

"Win, lose or draw tonight, Saturday is a totally different game... The boys will be up for it for certain. Totally different ball-game on Saturday because we've got to be up for it, because we've got to. And the crowd will turn up on Saturday, and it is what it is, but we need a win Saturday... On paper we're a decent side, just need to get it together, a bit more confidence... We'll have a blooming good go at it."

Fortunately, his colleague Selfy decided to be a little more articulate, informative, insightful, brave and honest in his summary...

"We've got to look at this in a bit more in context - we've just lost at home to Northampton Town. Whether it be Checkatrade or not, the side that went out there had all first-team experience... but we couldn't find a way to win. That does worry me. We've got Plymouth this weekend, our home record is a staggering five defeats and one win... we may write off different games, we may be blase about different games, but irrespective of that we can't win a game of football. We don't look as if we can win a game of football."

...before going on to explain that this isn't about relegation to League Two, but the strong possibility of relegation to the National League. He also went on to correctly state that the man most important in sorting the mess out is sat 5000 miles away in Bangkok, and that nothing is going to get better until OUFC are brave enough to sit down and make friends with their landlord. It's good to hear at least one person on the local airwaves talking some sense.

Oxford United are presently a club in crisis both on and off the pitch. Should Plymouth Argyle play on Saturday with even half of the charisma that Cobblers showed on Tuesday, Oxford are going to find themselves in a desperate and possibly irreversible position.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United is now 25.9% with seven wins in twenty-seven matches in all competitions.


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For anyone who likes a bet, Ladbroke and Coral are both offering odds of 12-1 against a 0-0 draw between Oxford United and Plymouth tomorrow...

Considering the league positions of both sides, the pressure on both managers, the desire not the lose all round, and the fact that most defeats for both sides this season have tended to be by the odd goal, I reckon there is a good chance it could end all square.

Also, it is presently blowing a gale in Oxford at the moment from the south-west, and will continue to do so through until late afternoon tomorrow (though with no rain forecast). That means strong wind howling straight through the giant gap where they never built a fourth stand and straight down the pitch. When the Kassam plays host to such conditions, it is always a thoroughly dreadful match...


Note: I will NOT be refunding any Kempsterites who take up this gem of a tip, but then complain to me when OUFC ship in six! Tongue


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I don't suppose we're going to get too many thanks from Oxford fans for prolonging Robinson's tenure for another week at least. Plymouth's 2-0 defeat on Saturday did not come as a surprise to the vast majority of Argyle fans Frown We have a new Chairman from 1 November so maybe Adams will beat Robinson in the sack race after all Wink


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For anyone who likes a bet, Ladbroke and Coral are both offering odds of 12-1 against a 0-0 draw between Oxford United and Plymouth tomorrow...

Considering the league positions of both sides, the pressure on both managers, the desire not the lose all round, and the fact that most defeats for both sides this season have tended to be by the odd goal, I reckon there is a good chance it could end all square.


Relatively few football matches end 0-0, so offering odds of 12/1 makes sense, regardless of how poor at scoring the clubs in question are.


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I don't suppose we're going to get too many thanks from Oxford fans for prolonging Robinson's tenure for another week at least. Plymouth's 2-0 defeat on Saturday did not come as a surprise to the vast majority of Argyle fans Frown


Good news finally for Oxford United fans, with...

Oxford United 2-0 Plymouth Argyle

...along with defeats for Bradford, Bristol Rovers and AFC Wimbledon. In fact, all seven clubs now above Oxford (up to Rochdale in 16th) all lost on Saturday. If this victory boosts their confidence even just a little, they might just pick up a few points in the upcoming matches versus strugglers Bristol Rovers and Shrewsbury. Indeed, they don't really have a match against a top side until Peterborough in early December. Sorry to have to say it to Pilgrim46, but apparently Plymouth were pretty awful, with Oxford fans saying the sort of things that I've heard Barnsley/Pompey/Luton fans saying about Oxford after their wins. And you are right, Pilgrim46 - most still want Karl out, but it is very doubtful that Tiger has the money to pay to do it.

For most fans, however, this wasn't even the most important thing going on at the club this past week. Their biggest hope/worry is the arrival of another money-man, this time Singaporean businessman Erick Thohir who has just sold his share of Internazionale and is now heading for the Kassam Stadium. Inter fans aren't exactly sad to see him go - one called @fstef92 twittered last week...

"FINALLY! Thohir is going to f**k off and ruin the lives of Oxford United fans. Sorry lads but you gotta take one for the team.!

...followed by...

"Also, 200m for 30% of the club is f*****g robbery in broad daylight, that bastard."

Tiger, Karl and Shaun Derry will no doubt be rolling out the red carpet as we speak! Why all these (supposed) billionaires want a part of a club that is the basket-case that OUFC are, I have no idea. Someone asked if they were asset-strippers, but someone else pointed out that OUFC don't even have any assets. Getting into bed with the Firoz, maybe? (Urgh, what an image!) Or is the image of dreaming spires that valued around the world that the very word 'Oxford' is worth buying a chunk of, in the same way an American bloke called Thomas Guerriero tried to with Oxford City FC a few years ago (and look where he is now!!)

Best summing-up comes from a poster on the Yellows Forum called ZeroTheHero, who writes...

"We have fallen down the rabbit hole into Alice In Wonderland. Apart from the complete non-performance of the management team and the team on the pitch,we have seemingly been bought (on tick) by an ineffectual, disorganised man with little money of his own but some moneyed contacts whose motives for (perhaps) getting involved with the club are completely unclear. With a part-time MD and an absentee owner there seems to be little control over what is happening day to day (yes, I know he can email and Skype, but that is not the same as actually being there) and the club has managed to make a fractious relationship with Kassam even worse (perhaps not difficult, but perhaps not very sensible either). With constant promises of 'jam tonmorrow' both on and off the pitch, some people are prepared to swallow whatever crap is fed to them - but none of us can do very much about it at all.

The current hope is that some bloke from Inter (who has presided over a slump for them and is reviled by their support) will bring his multimillions to the club, sort out the stadium situation and allow us to 'do a Bournemouth' because "Oxford is a marketable brand" seems like wishful thinking to me (perhaps unfortunately). If things aren't sorted quickly, we will be in L2 next season in all likelihood, stuck in a stadium we can't leave but can't afford to play in, with our best players sold to bridge the gap and a team made up of ageing journeymen crocks, promising youngsters and a few loanees. I'm off to buy a EuroMillions ticket..."


Next week: Bristol Rovers away...


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What with Saturday 27th October being the club's 125th birthday, Oxford United (nee Headington) have plenty of celebrations planned for tomorrow, including over 30 ex-players returning ("Sign 'em up, sign 'em up, sign 'em up!"). OUFC have also dragged up that little known policy of being able to change the design of their regular home kit on just one occasion per season - in this case reverting to wearing the orange of the original Headington United FC. Two things spring to mind here - firstly, should Shrewsbury Town play in their regular kit of yellow-and-blue, they'll be wearing the usual home colours of their hosts. Secondly, the last time I can remember Oxford United making a point of using this clause and changing their usual home kit was on 6th May 2006 for a home match against Leyton Orient, when they changed their usual dark blue shorts for yellow, thinking that playing in all-yellow would make their players stand out on a dull grey afternoon and increase their chances of winning. It didn't work - Oxford lost 2-3 and went paddling in the Conference for four years!

Things are looking (slightly) better, following...

Bristol Rovers 0-0 Oxford United

...and...

Charlton Athletic 1-1 Oxford United

...along with further defeats for AFC Wimbledon and Bradford City, leaving OUFC now three places and one point above bottom spot.

Reading the OUFC forum, I get the feeling that this is being seen as purgatory by some of the fans - a couple of defeats would have seen Karl Robinson on his way, while a couple of wins would have seen the starts of a revival, but here many feel they have neither. A couple of weeks ago I thought Shrewsbury would have been a match ripe for taking three points, but recent wins v. Barnsley and Accrington (plus a point at Walsall) shows that the Shrews haven't quite lost all the quality they showed last season. Though saying that, the other strugglers all have difficult matches tomorrow, too.

Someone on the OUFC fans' forum with a bit of time on their hands has been tapping at a calculator, and reckons that Oxford United will need a minimum of fifty points this season to be close to safety. This is based upon the points tally of those finishing in 20th place in League One over the past few seasons...

2017~18 ... Rochdale - 51 pts
2016~17 ... Gillingham - 50 pts
2015~16 ... Shrewsbury Tn - 50 pts
2014~15 ... Crewe Alex - 52 pts
2013~14 ... Notts County - 50 pts
2012~13 ... Colchester U. - 51 pts
2011~12 ... Leyton Orient - 50 pts
2010~11 ... Walsall - 48 pts


Sides have gone down with fifty points, most recently Oldham last season. But Walsall were the last side to stay up in 20th place with fewer points, and that was all the way back in 2011. This means that Oxford, presently on just eleven points (at a third of the way through the season!!) need another thirty-nine points, or ten wins and nine draws from their remaining thirty-one matches. On top of that, they'll be hoping that there are at least four sides in the division who are worse than they are!

Despite doing a lot to stem the glut of goals conceded earlier in the season (the return of Eastwood in goal no doubt helping), OUFC are still showing themselves to be fairly inept up-front. By all accounts neither of those two draws were a delight for the neutral observer, and now Oxford have lost another two first-teamers to injury: Shandon Baptiste is out until at least the New Year, and John Obika is out for the rest of the season after injuring his knee in a behind-closed-doors friendly v. Swindon Town. Obika came in as a striker, but quite frankly has been a bit of a disaster - unfortunately, that's quite a statement about the other players he's been keeping out of the team! The January transfer window (and any spare change out of Tiger's pockets) looks a long way off.

One thing that might just help the sides at the bottom of League One is that it seems to be a much closer division this season when compared to last. Last season, the top four (Wigan, Blackburn, Shrewsbury and Rotherham) were generally miles ahead of the rest of the division, dropping few points between them against the bottom end. This season, however, I don't think those at the top are anywhere near as strong - Barnsley, Peterborough and Accrington have all suffered heavy defeats recently, Portsmouth have been particularly flaky at home, and I still don't reckon Sunderland have turned their corner yet - so there's still plenty of points up for grabs all round.

Karl Robinson's win ratio with Oxford United is now 26.7%, with eight wins in thirty matches in all competitions.


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Still in the relegation spaces following...

Oxford United 3-0 Shrewsbury Town

...but a good performance and now on a run of five matches undefeated with just one goal conceded (and that was a disputed penalty at Charlton). For a side that conceded thirteen goals in their first four league fixtures of the season, that is quite an improvement.

The other interesting result of the day is...

Scunthorpe United 1-4 Plymouth Argyle

...not so much for showing the corner also being turned at Home Park, but because this was Scunthorpe's fifth consecutive league defeat. And Oxford United are the next visitors to Glanford Park next Saturday, and a win will guarantee them jumping out of the bottom four.

But just when you thought that Karl Robinson might be showing the smallest hints that he finally knows what he's doing... a decent chunk of BBC Radio Oxford's coverage of the 125th birthday celebrations was devoted to the news that none other than Nile Ranger has attended training with OUFC this past week. The fans seem a little pensive about this news, going by comments on the phone-in - but as someone said, if it's a choice between injured nice-guy John Obika who can't hit his banjo with a barn-door, or employing this particular piece of work...? Despite the improved form of late, there are still plenty of things that Karl ain't - and I suspect being an experienced enough manager to control this particular loose cannon might be one of those things.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United is now 29%, with nine wins in thirty-one matches in all competitions.


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Just like the bit in 'The Return Of The Pink Panther' where Peter Sellers drives first a 2CV then a Piaggio Ape into the same swimming pool, Karl Robinson's Oxford United continue to churn out gag after hilarious gag in quick succession. Barely has the broken glass from their early-season car-crash been swept away into the gutter, then Karl has seemingly managed to plough the courtesy rental car into the very next lamppost. Today's fun started with Saturday morning's Oxford Mail stating...

"Oxford United Prepared For Scunthorpe Backlash", says John Mousinho

...so well prepared, it seems, that they couldn't even hold a three-goal lead against a side on the back of five consecutive league defeats. Some of these players really ought to learn to keep their gobs shut! After finishing their latest circus act at...

Scunthorpe United 3-3 Oxford United

...by conceding three goals in the space of six short minutes, Karl was full of how they'd extended their unbeaten run to six matches, how fantastic their play was, and how this afternoon's capitulation was all the ref's fault (that one in particular makes me chuckle!). The more I hear Karl's yakking on the radio, the more I understand why the OUFC fans seem to be taking such a dislike to the bloke - even with this fairly impressive run of four away draws and two home wins, the fans' forum is glowing with radioactive disdain for the fella. And even Nick Harris was laughing at Karl's suggestion that the Scunny fans (all 3000 of them!!) had put too much pressure on the Oxford players! At least when Nathan Cooper asked Cameron Brannagan what had happened to the three goal lead, the midfielder was honest enough to sheepishly mumble "I don't know!"

Maybe Scunthorpe aren't as bad as their recent form suggests (after all, Stuart McCall is a decent manager) and this maybe actually is a decent point, but other results today didn't go Oxford's way. They're still fourth from bottom, with today seeing five wins and two draws for the seven sides immediately above them - Bristol Rovers' 3-0 win at Blackpool now opens up a two point gap. After next week's cup action, OUFC have a run of three winnable/losable matches: Gillingham at home, Bradford away, and Rochdale at home.

As chance would have it, this Saturday was exactly twenty-six years to the day since that evening in 1992 when I'd been standing on the away terrace at the Manor Ground, watching Pompey throw away a similar lead in similar style for the infamous 5-5 draw. So I'll take the delights of sweat revenge wherever I can, thank you!

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United is now 28.1% with nine wins from thirty-two matches in all competitions...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emykVnzB4_Y


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Just as I was thinking that I could maybe knock this thread on the head following...

Wycombe Wanderers 0-3 Oxford United

...Oxford United Football Club have now been issued with a winding up petition by HMRC for the second time in less than eight months. The paperwork was filed yesterday, and the court hearing is due to take place on Wednesday 19th December...

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...winding-up-petition/

As if that wasn't enough off-field excitement already of the supporters, they also got the news this morning that ex-Internazionale chairman Erick Thohir has today joined the OUFC board. You'd think that the fans would be quite excited about this new ownership team of Thai businessman and Indonesian billionaire, but although some seem genuinely optimistic, others are being more refreshingly suspicious - after all, there's a thirty-six year history of wealthy owners promising the earth and delivering an awful lot less in the OX postcode region. For all the confident words spoken at football clubs of all levels across the world, there is nothing to let in the cold light of day quite like the hard knock on the door. Still, if these owners are as flush with money as they seem to suggest, then surely this winding-up petition could be screwed up and disposed of really rather quickly...


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A quite exceptional turn-around on the pitch for Oxford United of late. Last night's result of...

Oxford United 3-0 Tottenham Hotspur U-21

...in the Checkatrade Trophy gives Karl Robinson a record of just one defeat in the past fifteen competitive matches, a run that includes nine clean-sheets since the return of goalkeeper Simon Eastwood. Admittedly, many of those matches have been against opposition going through their own shaky periods, though the last two league results do stand out as definite improvements - a 2-2 draw away at Peterborough and a 2-0 win at home to Blackpool. OUFC are now in 18th position on twenty-five points.

Despite this good run of form, however, the OUFC fans are still finding things to moan about, including the winding up order against the club that was formally dismissed in the High Court today. Chairman Tiger paid HMRC the outstanding £150k owed a few weeks ago, but has been very quiet concerning the matter when it has come to explaining things to OxVox (the Oxford United Supporters' Trust), the local media and the fans in general as to why the payment was made so late, and why the payment was missed in the first place. In a change from his usual recommendations for restaurants in downtown-Bangkok, his programme notes for the Blackpool match finally took on a much-needed note of seriousness when he wrote:

"There will always be rumours and speculation. I would love to explain why the situation got to that point, and I received a well-worded letter from OxVox asking for exactly that explanation. It is right for fans to ask those questions. I have agonised over what I can say in reply. In time I will be able to answer then all, and I promise I will do, but at the moment there are simply things that cannot be divulged."

OxVox have accepted this line from Tiger, but plenty of United supporters on the fans' forum have definitely not, feeling that there is an ever-growing blanket of secrecy surrounding the club that is blocking the fans out of any discussion or information. On top of this is Tiger's programme notes describing OUFC as being run "in a sustainable manner." A particularly articulate poster writing under the name of Myles goes on to question this by saying:

"Tiger states in his programme notes that the club is being run in a sustainable manner. We know that, barring good cup runs and/or player sales, the club makes a significant loss each year, so we are left to wonder what has changed to make the club sustainable now. We are sure some transparency around the ownership and funding of the club may help in explaining this."

The other point being discussed at length involves further rumours concerning the future of the Kassam Stadium. Earlier this season, information that can be described as nothing more substantial than leaked rumour came to light saying that OUFC were looking at five proposed sites in the Oxford area as potential for a new stadium. One of those sites has been named as Bicester (the other four are either not named or are particularly vague - the ice rink on a flood-prone patch next to the Thames in the city centre being the only other one that can be even remotely pinned down).

Whether it be rumour or not, the mention of Bicester has sparked much debate on the fans' forum. For a start, Bicester is some ten miles north of Oxford and is in a different council borough - it's not exactly comparable to Wimbledon's move to Milton Keynes, but it's twice as far as Bolton Wanderers' move to Horwich. Looking at the the EFL's guidance on the permanent relocating of a football club...

https://www.efl.com/...s/section-4---clubs/

...points tend to be deliberately vague. There is no mention of political/council boundaries, and I'm led to believe that more emphasis is placed upon points like conurbations and catchment areas. There is no denying that, once the Government gets its arse into gear and completes the Oxford/Cambridge rail line and then starts tarmac-ing over the Oxbridge Corridor, then Bicester will certainly be part of Oxford's urban conurbation (Oh, where is Acmold when you need him??!!) Tiger's whole point of buying into Oxford United was to grab a piece of that 'Oxford brand marketability' (a bit like Thomas Guerriero tried to at Oxford City a few years back), so you might question why there'd even be talk of moving so far from the city - but the fact is that Bicester is one of the fastest growing towns in Europe, with excellent transport links and a local authority who seem incredibly eager to let people build on the surrounding land. The famous Bicester Village Shopping Experience continues to grow and grow, and although a struggling L1 football club might not tie in entirely with their Versace/Gucci/Armani image, a sports stadium located nearby would certainly open the way for a large amount of hotel capacity to be built, which is probably the one thing missing in their plans for world domination. A recent Radio 4 programme followed a large group of Chinese tourists around the UK on their trip, where they made visits to Edinburgh, Old Trafford football ground, Stratford-Upon-Avon and Bicester Village - the last of these was deemed by far the most popular, with quite astonishing figures being quoted that an amazing 80% of all Chinese visitors to the UK visit Bicester Village (with it being second only to Buckingham Palace in those stakes). If they want to make money out of this huge Chinese influx (and remember that just about every other business in Oxfordshire - from BMW Mini to the University to every bleedin' corner shop in town - is presently cashing in like there is no tomorrow), then maybe OUFC taking a look at Bicester is not such a crazy idea after all. The other point in the favour of Bicester (or any other site, however far away it might be from the OX4 postcode) is the sheer unpopularity of the status quo among fans - the EFL would probably look more favourably on any ideas of moving ten miles away that were actually popular with the fans. Which brings us on to...

Another thing that has cropped up concerning the Kassam is actually taking place at this very moment - South Oxfordshire District Council are discussing over several evenings this week their plans to start building 1700 houses on fields on the south side of Grenoble Road, close to the Kassam Stadium. These fields are within the jurisdiction of SODC but lie right next to the boundary of Oxford City Council, so would obviously go some way to helping the city's chronic housing shortage. The final decision has yet to be made, but hey, do you really think SODC are going to build this estate in the picturesque surrounds of Wallingford or Henley instead??!! Once given the go-ahead, the value of the land that the Kassam Stadium sits on is going to spiral upwards, and owner Firoz will no doubt be given the green light to start building houses there too. OUFC owns no land in the area so will gain nothing financially from any of these deals. And as their lease on the Kassam Stadium comes to an end/up for renewal in 2026 (seven years time), they really need to start thinking about what they are going to do/where they are going to play.

A minority of OUFC fans are actually calling for a fans group to take over the Kassam Stadium (much like Pompey fans did when they bought Fratton Park) by buying Firoz out. However, this seems an unpopular idea with most - the ground has always been unpopular with the bulk of fans, in places it is deteriorating badly, transports links ain't good, and it would need someone willing to cough up for the fourth stand if that was ever to be a worthwhile consideration. On top of that, Firoz would still be in ownership of the land surrounding the stadium, and would you really want that bloke as your next-door neighbour? This is no doubt a story that will continue to run...

Back on the pitch, Oxford United's next match is away at Doncaster Rovers.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 38.1%, with sixteen wins in forty-two competitive matches.


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As predicted: Reported in the Oxford Mail...

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...-accepts-local-plan/

...South Oxfordshire District Council have voted in favour of the proposal to build 1700 houses on the fields to the immediate south of Grenoble Road and the Kassam Stadium. Consultation will begin on 7th January.

I imagine that this will make Firoz Kassam a very happy man this Christmas. The one and only glimmer of good news I can see for Oxford United FC is that Firoz's greed might just make him agree to the early ending of their crippling lease as he rushes to demolish the worst football ground in the league in order to join in the building frenzy about to be unleashed upon the Oxford Green Belt. (Though if Tiger doesn't get the planning for a new ground underway soon, it might also mean a period of OUFC ground-sharing at MK Dons or Wycombe Wanderers). Watch this space...


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Boxing Day threw up plenty to discuss both on and off the pitch in the light of...

Oxford United 0-1 Southend United

...a match in which I thought OUFC didn't exactly play badly, but found themselves out-thought (rather than out-fought) by an intelligent-looking Southend side. News that Karl Robinson had actually given all the Oxford players the day off on Christmas Day, instead of getting them in for at least some light training like most managers would, certainly puts a light on their at times sluggish display a day later - apparently the players were fitted with GPS-type tracking devises and were told to twitter any training they did on Christmas Day for Karl's benefit (an image of Jamie Mackie in a mankini being the most memorable 'evidence' - Mackie's laboured efforts during the match might suggest otherwise). Another bright idea of Karl's! Southend United, meanwhile, went on to record their seventh consecutive Boxing Day victory, evidence that suggests that 25th December has long been regarded as a normal workday for constructive graft by those at Roots Hall.

Probably more important in the long term is the news that broke on Boxing Day morning of the resignation of OxVox chairman Colin Barson. OxVox is the Oxford United Supporters Trust, a not-for-profit independent body which attempts to act as a voice for Oxford United supporters in dealings with OUFC, the local community, Oxford City Council, landlord Firoz Kassam, the police, the media and other football supporters and groups - last year, they sat down with Firoz Kassam to discuss the future of the stadium after Firoz had stated that he was willing to sell (this at a time when the OUFC board could do no more than throw insults Firoz's way). Among OUFC fans, Colin Barson has been regarded as a hard working, conscientious, no-nonsense, loyal and respected Chairman and committee member - basically, exactly the sort of person you want out front when your club is so regularly inclined to shoot itself in the foot. Therefore, it has come as a shock to many that he has chosen to step down at such a time, mid-season, when there are so many questions posed by OxVox that the present OUFC board have failed to answer properly. In his statement on the fans' forum, he insists that:

"It was a fundamental disagreement about the role of Chairman ... Unfortunately with OxVox I found myself with a committee that wanted to be involved in pretty much every decision. This led to a constant compromise on pretty much everything ... (I)f I put my head above the parapet, it needs to be for something I believe in, not a watered down version of it."

Obviously I've paraphrased, and there is no doubt more still to come out. But the fact that his resignation comes so soon after OxVox's rather powder-puff response to the club's sloppy payment of its outstanding HMRC debt makes you suspect that Colin Barson would have preferred the statement to have been differently worded. With Tiger and the rest of the OUFC board being loath to communicate with fans in a clear manner, I suspect that it won't be long before Colin is sorely missed by supporters who are already struggling to get answers to their questions.

Sumrith 'Tiger' Thanakarnjanasuth may well have his heart in the right place, but whether his wallet is is another matter. And Christmas Day threw up even more question marks when Tiger made the statement that the club would be unveiling a special Christmas gift for the fans at halftime during the Southend match. So with the fans growing eagerness/frustration at the upcoming January transfer window, just imagine their surprise when that gift turns out to be a four-month loanee recently rejected by Ipswich Town! Admittedly, that is a little unfair on the player himself - 23yo Jordan Graham is on the books at Premiership Wolves, and his rejection by Ipswich is more to do with their new manager Paul Lambert (who also previously jettisoned Jordan at both Wolves and again at Aston Villa). Also, Jordan is well-remembered for his previous loan spell at OUFC - a short stint of just five appearances in 2015, but which included a blistering performance in a 2-0 win over Swindon Town (in such high regard is an event like that held in the A420 catchment area - the fact that it was in the Checkatrade Trophy probably takes the shine off it for the rest of us!) However, saying all that, you could sense the slight embarrassment in the stands when he was paraded on the pitch. The fact that the only other notable transfer talk at the moment is of the possible outwards move of Curtis Nelson (one of OUFC's few decent players) makes the whole recruitment drive seem even more worrying for those who wear yellow scarfs. Recent form has won Karl a few brownie points, but his rather derisible returns in last August's transfer window still grate with many.

Small fry but still more bad news came out this morning that some toe-rags broke into the OUFC shop on Thursday night and caused damage. The shop is in one of the units of the bulking large box on the far side of the carpark, along with the delights of Frankie & Benny's and other such out-of-town nonsense. Rent payable to Firoz Kassam, but what sort of security he or the club are expected to provide (in what, it has to be said, is one of the city's less salubrious areas) I do not know. Again reading the fans' forum, it's surprising how many OUFC fans admitted to feeling underwhelmed even before the Southend match kicked off (remember this was on the back of a five match winning home run), and the Ultras seemed very quite. Plenty of Boxing-Day-once-a-season visitors demanding better entertainment for their money than was eventually dished out on a cold grey day probably didn't help the mood of those who attend more regularly, but there's no getting away from how dispiriting the Kassam complex is in which to spend any time. The large and ample carpark is free to use (MK Dons charge £7!), but with just two meagre entrances it means that getting in (and especially getting out) can create huge delays and snarl-ups in the entire area. Week after week of this has led to many fans getting into the unhealthy habit of leaving the ground early, regardless of the score at the time, which hardly helps the atmosphere when the players are pushing for a late equaliser. Hopefully, more news concerning the future home of OUFC will come out in 2019. There again, maybe it won't...

Oxford United next match is tomorrow, a 1pm kick-off at home to Bristol Rovers, best described as a six-pointer.


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Like an unwanted Christmas puppy, Oxford United's fans have experienced another day of being offered a juicy bone only to instead receive a mighty kick in the knackers (they've also long been fed unhealthy scraps from the table, been kicked out in the cold at night and had their noses rubbed in the mess, but that's beside the point). In this morning's Oxford Mail, an interview with Chairman Tiger talked glowingly of the opportunities of the upcoming January transfer window and the money there'll be to spend, with Tiger saying:

"If he [Karl Robinson] needs to spend some money to strengthen the team, then we'll do it."

Unfortunately, he then goes on to blow any illusion that he might remotely know what he's talking about by saying:

"I still think we should get to [the] top ten. But you never give up and if we get another 48 points we can still go to the play-offs. You have to aim high."

Anyone who thinks Oxford United are heading for the play-offs is in cloud-cuckoo land! Following a further disaster on the pitch this afternoon at...

Oxford United 0-2 Bristol Rovers

...OUFC find themselves back in the relegation scrap that they ignorantly though they'd left behind, sat in 20th place just two points outside the danger zone, and with plenty of the chasing pack picking up points and improving their own form. Truth is that Oxford's much vaunted semi-decent run was heavily based on draws and cup matches against light-weight sides, while now they face a January and February packed with fixtures against sides much further up the table. As one fan wrote earlier on their forum:

"Pompey 5-2 up at Fleetwood. God help us on the 19th January!"

Even if Robbo is given the cash (and some still doubt whether Tiger actually has any), he has already shown a distinct lack of nous in his previous dabble in the market. Last summer, after failing in his chase for some WOW names, he ended up blowing the budget like a flapping addict on a fixed-odds terminal by dragging in some out-of-condition/injury-prone crocks before topping up on loan-signings who have since slowly lost the will to live. The same Oxford Mail article then talks of Karl's recent excursion to foreign football fields in the search for talent, before admitting that "his trip to Belgium last weekend did not go exactly as planned."!! The one thing some fans seem grateful for is that Tiger has actually turned up for the two home losses against Southend and Rovers, and so should certainly now know what a piss-poor state his club are actually in.

The fans are also getting increasingly frustrated with the tactics Karl seems to persist in playing, with just one striker up-front. Worse still, that one up-front is one of the aforementioned knackered summer signings - 33yo Jamie Mackie, with a tally of two goals in seventeen appearances. His legs were shot to pieces when he played at Reading, and that was three years ago! Despite all of Karl's words about improvement, I think it no coincidence that the good run started with the return of goalie Simon Eastwood, probably OUFC's one and only really good player. Most of the rest look tired, injured, out-of-shape or disinterested.

The other danger is the seeming refusal of both Karl and Tiger to notice the blinding obvious. Even after today's defeat to Bristol Rovers, Karl was on the radio coming out with deluded words like:

"We were the best team in the first half by a long way."

...before going on (yet again) to blame the refereeS (because one ref got injured early on, so Karl could actually blame two of them today!).

Positive results for just about everyone else down the bottom (including Bradford, who won 4-0 at Rochdale) leaves Oxford United in 20th place on twenty-six points, with just six league wins from twenty-five matches and no away league wins all season. Only one side in League One have won fewer matches - Plymouth Argyle, where Oxford head on New Year's Day.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 35.6%, with sixteen wins in forty-five matches in all competitions.


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Good news for Karl for a change, as he starts the exciting month of the January transfer window with the signing of highly-regarded 21yo prospect Mark Sykes from Northern Ireland side Glenavon, bought for an undisclosed sum and snatched from under the noses of Port Vale, who Mark had already promised to sign for. That’s the spirit - just the sort of loyalty Oxford United are screaming out for!

And that, unfortunately, is where the good news ends, as another of Karl’s previous signings looks to be going the other way. Ivo Pekalski was bought back in August from Swedish side Halmsteds but promptly crocked himself with a cruciate ligament injury before he’d even kicked a ball, so Karl sent him back to Halmsteds on loan. What with everyone else being crocked too, Karl put out the call recently for Ivo to come back as cover, only for Ivo to respond that he’d absolutely no intention of doing something as ridiculous as playing football over the festive period, and that he’d rather spend Christmas with his family. You could hear the sentiment in Karl’s voice when he said that Ivo was “gone 100%”.

However, worse may well be to come. Oxford’s best outfield player is easily central defender Curtis Nelson, who was very publicly stripped of the captaincy earlier this season after talks with Karl over a new contract broke down. Since then, Nelson (along with keeper Eastwood) has been one of the few shining lights on the pitch but has still not signed a new contract, and January is the last opportunity for Oxford to recoup some of the near-£300k they paid Plymouth for him before he becomes a free agent at the end of the season. Most fans seem to think that, if Curtis Nelson goes, it’ll spell relegation for Oxford, though that could well happen even if he stays following New Year’s Day’s properly disasterous scoreline of...

Plymouth Argyle 3-0 Oxford United

As if to rub salt into some obviously very bitter emotions, Karl then sent Curtis out to talk to BBC Radio Oxford afterwards. When interviewer Nathan Cooper asked Curtis about his future at the club, the player refused to answer and said he’d cut the interview if the question was asked again. So all’s well in the dressing room then!

Despite the Oxford Mail’s pre-match headline resolution that...

”Mental Toughness So Key To Oxford United Reaction At Plymouth Argyle, Says Boss Karl Robinson”

...some supporters report seeing the players indulging in Devon cream teas at a cafe on Plymouth Hoe on New Year’s Eve. On top of that, the Plymouth Herald newspaper reports that Argyle manager Derek Adams knew his side would win after seeing news footage on SKY Sports of the Oxford players swimming in the pool at their Crowne Plaza Hotel. Swimming may well be a low-impact exercise, but as Adams obviously knows it can also be tiring and dehydrating, leading him to instruct his own players to start the match at a high and furious pace. The tactic paid off with a goal on 9mins, and it went downhill from there for Oxford. Worse still for Karl, there were wins also for Bradford and Scunthorpe, and a draw for Bristol Rovers.

Following their dramatic late draw with a tireless performance at high-flying Doncaster Rovers just ten days ago (just TEN DAYS ago!), the talk was of seven or more comfortable points from three easy matches and the start of a run towards the play-offs. Now, the supporters’ forum and the radio airwaves are again alight with calls for Karl’s head on a pike on the ramparts of Magdalen Bridge. The ‘easy’ matches are now all gone, and Oxford’s next eight in the league (after a couple of irritating cup fixtures) are all against sides in the top half: Fleetwood(a), Portsmouth(h), Accrington(a), Barnsley(h), Burton(a), Sunderland(h), Peterborough(h) and Blackpool(a). Not until early March and the visit of Scunthorpe do they have a match with any appearance of possibility to it.

Oxford United are now third-from-bottom in 22nd place in League One, with just six league wins from twenty-six matches this season. They have still yet to win away in the league this season.

Karl Robinson’s win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 34.8%, with sixteen wins from forty-six matches.


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Much soul-searching going on among OUFC fans following a disasterous Christmas of three defeats and no goals. Here are some of the more articulate comments written on the Yellows Forum https://yellowsforum.co.uk/ following Oxford United's defeat on New Year's Day at Plymouth Argyle. I've paraphrased them, but they sum up the present problems well...


First by Paul B:

"The stats are against us. We have gone back to not scoring and not looking that likely to. Plus we're now leaking goals again and that's with Curtis Nelson still amongst us. Put those two things together and we're screwed unless the opposition are hopeless too or we start performing effectively once more. Given such a short turnaround time between fixtures I can't see how we're going to suddenly turn a jaded knackered outfit without a striker into a slick competitive fighting force that won't make silly mistakes, will be difficult to score against and will pose a genuine goal threat.

And with no league wins on our travels, how scary do the next four home league fixtures look? Pompey, Barnsley, Sunderland and Peterborough. Where are the points going to come from?

I don't understand why Jon Mousinho was left out. Aren't there others more knackered/injured than him? Aren't there others who have made more mistakes in recent games than him? Aren't there some who are much less influential than him yet they started?

Luke Garbutt? Loan signing. How many of these have we got right? Samir Carruthers got injured, then got injured again, so perhaps we've been unlucky there. Or not. He didn't play that much football last season. Another crock? Ricky Holmes, a crock. We knew this. And then there's the now departed Sam Smith, whoever the **** thought he was the answer to our striker conundrum now appears to be barking mad. We waited so long and so patiently to get him and got so little in return. Or could it be that he is indeed a talented guy but our management and coaching staff have no idea how to utilise those talents?

Which means we're left with Jamie Mackie up front. He now looks as ineffectual as when he first came in and clearly wasn't match fit. It is beyond laughable that we now whack so many balls forward when the chances of him winning them are as remote as someone scooping the lottery when they've forgotten to buy a ticket.

I despair, utterly despair. I've seen some rank displays since Michael Appleton departed but this was right up there with the very worst and I can see no light at the end of the tunnel. Actually, I've no idea where the end of the tunnel is.

Up to the start of October I couldn't see us improving and then the only reason I wasn't shouting for Karl Robinson's head was because I couldn't see who else we would be able to get who would be better. Also it was still relatively early days, although I had not forgotten his record at the back end of 17/18 was poor even though we stayed up

These last three matches have put a very different perspective on things once more. So much so that I don't really know what to say."



By Shropshire U:

I wish that there was even a slim chance that 2019 might offer some opportunities for hopeful posts, but we have to be truthful and realistic: we're in the middle of a perfect storm. Owned by absentee bullshitters. Tenants of a soulless three-sided stadium. A manager I actually feel sad for (he's clueless but he cares... a bad combination for him and for us). A squad weighed down by awful summer signings and containing only a sprinkling of L1 quality players.

I left the Bristol Rovers game feeling exactly as I did after the 0-7 Wigan debacle last Xmas. On both occasions I'd taken newcomers along in the hope that they'd be enthused and become regulars, but what is there in the current situation to draw in new fans and young people, the future lifeblood of the fan base? Old stagers like us will hunker down and hope against hope for an upturn, but I can't remember it feeling this dark even when we went down to the Conference."



And from Yellowbow:

"I think it's time that real pressure was applied to Tiger and his cohorts. Enough is enough, the way Tiger is running this club, on and off the pitch, I really fear what will happen to the club if we drop back into League 2, which is a very real proposition the way things are going. Despite the questions that were asked by OxVox a month ago, we still have no answers. On top of that, we have a manager who is clearly now out of his depth with no answers. Anyone can see that from his interview after the game yesterday. He looks a totally broken man, it's quite shocking to see. We're in a complete shitstorm and it's time the supporters knew what the short and long term plans are for the club. No more bullshit "we can't tell you now but the future's gonna be awesome!!" claptrap. I feel we're at a moment in time when, in the future, we'll look back and say THAT'S the time when we should have stood up and said enough's enough, what the hell's going on? Let's not make that mistake, let's draw the line here and now."


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Yesterday's 'Oxford Mail'...

'Time For Oxford United To Stick Together', Urges Chairman Sumrith Thanakarnjanasuth

...which is being taken by some fans as Tiger standing by his man!

However, the same newspaper then informs the fans with a headline that...

Curtis Nelson: I'm 100 per cent committed to Oxford United

...though leaves the information that it's "for as long as he is at the club" hidden in the small-print! To be honest, most OUFC fans seem resigned that he'll be gone during the window, and few will blame him if he does.

Next up - news that defender Tony McMahon has been sent out on loan... to relegation rivals Scunthorpe United!! You couldn't make it up!

And finally, two of Oxford's bright and up-coming youth players - Harvey Bradbury and Armani Little - have been sent on loan (again) to Woking. Subject to the paperwork being completed in time, they'll both be in the Woking squad for their FA Cup match v. premier Watford. Surely Karl would be better off blooding them in with Oxford's own upcoming cup matches against Brentford and Cheltenham? Someone needs to be given a brave chance. The three players that Karl lined up for central goalscoring duties at the start of the season - Jamie Mackie, Jon Obika and Sam Smith - have scored a total of just THREE league goals between them all season! One is now out with a long-term injury, another has been sent packing back to Reading, and the other is a crocked 33yo and a good half foot shorter than the majority of central defenders he has to cope with.

Today's match is away at Brentford in the FA Cup 3rd round.


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I often wonder why the travails of Oxford get their own thread, while others (Yeovil, for example) do not.

[Moderator's note - this thread is welcome, keep posting, this a Leo rant, not a moderator rant]

Oxford are, in my opinion, a club who are liable to move between the third and fourth levels and a spell in League-2 is not a disaster

In the distant past, they had a few years at a higher level and many of their fans still believe that is where they belong, despite a string of owners and managers that cannot deliver this. Even the owner when they had their successes was a fraud.

I myself never forgave them for the 2006 chant when playing Cheltenham, "You'll always be non-League". We did not play them the following season, as Oxford had dropped to non-League. Cheltenham were promoted.

Oxford appear to be one of those clubs who always believe they need an owner/fairy godmother who will finance their move to the higher realms

At least they cannot say "anything is better than the current owner". Kassam and Maxwell have made sure they understand that.



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I often wonder why the travails of Oxford get their own thread, while others (Yeovil, for example) do not.


Funny you should mention Yeovil Town - I started a thread about three years ago called 'Whats Going Wrong At Yeovil?'. They are a side I have an affection for and occasionally go and watch (I've seen them twice this season - their amazing 6-0 win at joint-top Newport, and their disastrous 0-1 defeat at bottom-placed Macclesfield). I also regularly read the excellent independent fans' site http://www.ciderspace.co.uk. Much like Oxford United, YTFC are having a troubled season, with an unapproachable chairman, unpopular manager, tired and clueless players, disgruntled fans and a general lack of optimism for the future. The difference is that most at Yeovil knew all along that this season would be a struggle, and that they'll always need to be punching above their weight.


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Oxford are, in my opinion, a club who are liable to move between the third and fourth levels and a spell in League-2 is not a disaster


The thing with Oxford United is the ridiculous blind denial throughout the club, from top to bottom, through chairman, board, manager, players, local media and fans - it makes watching their continual slow-motion car-crash such a hypnotic thing to regard. Right up until the defeat (nay, thrashing!) at bottom-placed Plymouth on New Year's Day (just six days ago! Just SIX DAYS ago!), Chairman Tigger was actually talking about expectations of the play-offs. As recently as Christmas Eve (just fourteen days ago!), one of their fans started a thread on their forum (with absolutely no irony) about how many points OUFC need to reach the play-offs. The fact that Accrington are above Oxford (and doing very well, thank you, on a fraction of the gates and budget) is seen as some kind of fluke. Referees are seen as always favouring the opposition. Not even Man.Utd fans have that level of self-expectation. I personally feel the need to write about it because, when you throw in the presence of Firoz Kassam, the Oxford property market and the politics surrounding the Green Belt, I don't think that there is another club in the country tearing itself apart from the inside in quite the way that OUFC continue to do. If it is possible for Chesterfield to be staring down the barrel of three successive relegations and step2 football, then believe me, it can definitely happen to Oxford United too.


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In the distant past, they had a few years at a higher level and many of their fans still believe that is where they belong, despite a string of owners and managers that cannot deliver this. Even the owner when they had their successes was a fraud ... Oxford appear to be one of those clubs who always believe they need an owner/fairy godmother who will finance their move to the higher realms.


Going all the way back to 1983 and the fiasco surrounding Robert Maxwell's Thames Valley Royals, there is no denying that it all kick-started a golden five-year period for Oxford United. However, the irony is that since then, it is Reading FC (who at the time were by far the smaller club) who have gone on to be successful - building a proper high-quality new stadium, contributing to the infrastructure of the town, taking the club up in a sustainable manner, seasons in the Premiership, established in the Championship, growing the attendances. Fairy godmothers do exist, and John Madejski is the perfect example - a rich and successful businessman, an intelligent man, a property developer, but also a Reading fan, and what he did in his time there will last for a long time yet. Maxwell, Kassam and now Tigger and his cohorts Nuseibeh, Geicke and Thohir were/are certainly NOT Oxford fans.


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At least they cannot say "anything is better than the current owner". Kassam and Maxwell have made sure they understand that.


The only reason Maxwell got involved with Oxford United (apart from his ego) was because he saw the killing to be made in his push to build a new stadium and selling the old ground for development (this was before even Scunthorpe had done it, let alone the aftermath of the Taylor report). Come the late 90s, it was Firoz who benefited - buying the club for £1, paying off the debts, then selling the Manor for £5ml and pocketing the proceeds before building the breeze-block slum that now bears his name and collecting an extortionate rent.

At this moment, there is much pressure from both national and local government to build upon Green Belts throughout the country, but nowhere more so than around Oxford, where housing supply is short and both the demand and price of building land is sky-high. I can't help but feel that the primary reasons (the only reason?) why Oxford United have seen this continual influx of wealthy businessmen is all tied up in how those businessmen feel they can make further fortunes out of the idiotic value of the local property market.

The problem with Tigger is that you get the distinct feeling that he is another South-East Asian businessman dazzled by the glamour of English football, without any of the (how shall we say) 'streetwise nous' of either Maxwell or Kassam. Tigger's programme notes read like one of these filler-articles in an estate agent's magazine. He's playing the part from 5000 miles away, whereas Maxwell and Kassam both (unfortunately) knew exactly what they were doing. The lease on the stadium comes up in about six years or so time, and if Tigger ain't got a new home sorted out by then, Oxford could end up groundsharing longterm at Wycombe/MK/Cobblers. It really, really could get worse for the club over the coming seasons.

Good luck to your lot in the Checkatrade, Leo. However, I'll have to confess to wanting Oxford to beat Cheltenham tomorrow - anything to keep Karl Robinson in his job until Pompey arrive on the 19th! This'd all make a brilliant subject to write a book about, but I don't fancy being sued for libel by Firoz!


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Oxford is the only club I've been to where a fan booed and heckled a player for being too good for the club. Unsure


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Good luck to your lot in the Checkatrade, Leo. However, I'll have to confess to wanting Oxford to beat Cheltenham tomorrow - anything to keep Karl Robinson in his job until Pompey arrive on the 19th! This'd all make a brilliant subject to write a book about, but I don't fancy being sued for libel by Firoz!


Thanks for the good wishes, but the penalty shoot out did not favour us this time. I do not think a Checkatrade match would lead to the manager being sacked anyway - don't know about the response to a defeat at Fleetwood.

If Oxford lose that, then it is four successive league defeats, even if there are two cup matches in between. This brings up the thread title, except I don't think their fans are still happy - still over 300 made it to Cheltenham today, (I stayed in France)



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Oxford is the only club I've been to where a fan booed and heckled a player for being too good for the club. Unsure


It’s also the only club that I’ve been to where the fans have booed their own ground-staff forking the pitch at half-time! Laugh


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A brave point won yesterday, helping to (partly) stop the rot of three successive league defeats and a lack of goals scored, with...

Fleetwood Town 2-2 Oxford United

...made all the more pleasing for their fans, no doubt, for coming from two-down at halftime against a proper bogey team. This moves Oxford United up one place to 21st (though still in the relegation places), level on twenty-seven points with Bradford and Plymouth. The bad news came with most of the others down the bottom picking up points, too - Plymouth, Gillingham and a resurgent Scunthorpe all won, while AFC Wimbledon and Bristol Rovers both got draws. (Saying that, it’s noticeable that Rochdale are suddenly dropping like a stone).

Worse news came last week, during the FA Cup defeat at Brentford, when one of OUFC’s bright young prospects picked up yet another serious injury. Shandon Baptiste, who’d only just recovered from a shoulder injury, came on as a substitute only to then get stretchered off six minutes later with a anterior cruciate ligament injury. He left Griffin Park on crutches and will be out for at least eight months - bad news for the club, but properly terrible for the young player. Karl’s post-match interview actually made for painful listening, as you could hear how upset he was. This in turn led to some fans to actually question Karl Robinson’s mental well-being, with quite a few thankfully promising to ease down on the criticism that they’ve been throwing his way recently. Still, the Brentford defeat managed to offer up at least one piece of lighter news, when defender Rob Dickie was spotted inside one of Griffin Park’s corner pubs just fifteen minutes after the final whistle, leading to some fans to contemplate why he seems unable to move that fast during play!

Better news for Karl comes in the shape of new Wolves loanee Jordan Graham, who by all accounts was the player-of-the-match at Fleetwood. Not only that, at the tender age of 23 he also appears to have been the most vocal in pointing out the failings of his teammates to them at halftime, a pep-talk that even encouraged Jamie Mackie to score only the fourth league goal by an Oxford striker all season. Karl had best make the most of this lad, as the transfer-window search is going mighty slowly.

Next week’s match is at home to top-placed Portsmouth, a prospect that seems to be filling Oxford’s fans with dread, particularly as it is quickly followed by further home matches against Sunderland, Barnsley and Peterborough. Already the away sections for the Pompey and Sunderland matches have sold out, rather controversially in both cases. Pompey fans have directed their ire at the Fratton Park ticket office staff who started selling to the lengthening queue of season-ticket holders outside the ground and to online customers at exactly the same time on Monday morning, meaning that only the first couple of dozen in the queue actually got tickets before cyberspace had gobbled up the rest of the 1,800 allocation. Sunderland fans, meanwhile, seem particularly grumpy about their apparent poxy share, probably having not quite grasped that they’re no longer playing at Championship/Premiership grounds these days. To their credit, Oxford’s allocation of 1,800 seats for visiting supporters is actually a very generous 15% of the ground’s capacity, when the EFL stresses that only 10% need be given. And although both visitors could quite easily fill the entire North Stand, Oxford fans have particularly bad memories of the past couple of times the club has cashed in in such a way - first there was the time Northampton’s fans cheered the Cobblers to promotion, and then a certainly last day of the season when Orient’s fans roared them up and Oxford were relegated to the Conference.

As all the Pompey tickets were snapped up so quickly, I’m having to gear myself up for watching from the South Stand - it’ll be only the second time in forty-two years that I’ll have watch Pompey from within the opposition fans, the other time being New Year’s Day 2001 when I couldn’t be arsed with the snail-paced queues and so nipped in with the Gillingham fans for one of the most turgid nil-nils I’ve ever witnessed. I doubt next Saturday will be goalless! However, (looking at it with my Pompey hat on) I can’t help but be just a little bit worried that the nature of the Fleetwood come-back and the optimism of Jordan Graham might just be the turning point that Oxford have been waiting for. And Pompey’s home defeat to Blackpool shows just how vulnerable (ie. rubbish!) they can be at times.

Karl Robinson’s win ratio at Oxford United is now 32.7%, with sixteen wins in forty-nine matches in all competitions.


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The OUFC circus performance continues at pace, even when they're not playing a match. This time it's news that forward Gavin Whyte was filmed at the weekend in the street in Belfast performing an act of 'indecent exposure'. Northern Ireland manager Michael O'Neill and OUFC's Karl Robinson (neither of whom get on with the other) are now falling over eachother to get their disciplinary in first!

However, Whyte's offering to the ladies of Belfast pales into even further minuscule insignificance compared to the news that broke last night, that Oxford United are to be presented with their third winding-up petition from HMRC in just ten months. And of course, this being Oxford United, they didn't even release the bad news themselves - the news was broken on the Oxford fans' own forum by a respected poster called MarkG, who is accountancy-literate and had spotted the information stated under CR-2019-000281 in HMRC's official public record The Gazette. Had MarkG not seen and posted, how long do you think the OUFC board would have tried to keep that info under wraps?

Understandably, Oxford's fans have quickly taken to their forum over the past 24hrs to express their anger at the situation, and especially at the fact that it is only three weeks since Tigger promised fans that this 'probably' wouldn't happen again after December's winding-up petition. Further, the fact that this has blown up during the transfer window also makes it highly likely that Tigger will now find it very difficult to keep his other promise that there'd be cash available to Karl to buy a striker or two in the fight to fend off relegation. You can almost begin to feel sorry for Karl Robinson! A limited club statement released to the Oxford Mail says that a payment might be made "slightly late", but I'm not sure whether the increasingly intolerant taxman will really be that atuned to the subtle difference - it's like saying fourth from bottom of L1 is "slightly" better than third from bottom. Whatever the ins and outs of what is and isn't (still) owed to HMRC, it is quickly becoming apparent that the public standing of the bowtie-wearing chairman has now hit an all-time low in the OX4 postal area. And he's only owned the club for less than eleven months.

As if all this is not bad enough, over on the Portsmouth fans' forum, reports are now coming in from their supporters that tickets purchased for the away section at this Saturday's fixture at the Kassam Stadium have still not been delivered to the homes of those fans who bought on the internet. How the ticket company that OUFC uses to distribute the tickets tallies in with OUFC's obviously chaotic money-handling, I do not know (do PFC collect the money from internet sales then pass it on to OUFC, or is it increasingly done through a third party group like Ticketmaster?), but there is no disputing that it is all an unmitigated public-relations disaster all round. OxVox have been refreshingly quick to state their displeasure in the whole situation, and some Oxford fans are now calling for Blackpool/Charlton-type fan protests, but seeing as Tigger rarely turns up at the ground it is unlikely to mean much to him.

Is there even more decay behind the scenes? The trouble with the kind of situation that OUFC now find themselves in is that clear communication is the one thing (other than a big bag of money) that can go some way to smoothing the emotions of the fans. However, communication is something that Tigger and his cohorts have proved even worse at than handling cash-flow, not helped by the fact that the only OUFC representative most fans ever hear is Karl's yelping shouts. Billionaire Thohir, despite all his supposed offerings of cash and experience from his time at Internazionale, has committed himself to helping in the Indonesian general election campaign, by which time the L1 relegation campaign could be over. Rumours are now leaking out of every orifice. While on their way to Fratton Park last week, Blackpool FC had asked OUFC kindly if they could use the club's training ground (Oxford were reciprocating by using Blackpool's facilities before their match at Fleetwood), but when Blackpool turned up they found no hot water. Wrexham FC players found the same when they turned up there recently. Turns out there are still outstanding bills owed to contractors and utilities providers, as well as HMRC. At a time when the playing-staff are ravaged by injury, why has the pretty decent player Charlie Raglan been sent on loan to Cheltenham, other than as a cost-cutting exercise? How much else is there that Tigger can't afford?

Fans are now beginning to fall out with eachother, and not all quite as humorously as poster Junior_1, who snaps at former OxVox chairman Mark Sennett:

"You also couldn't even be bothered to get up off your a**e when I knocked on your door to drop off monies I collected for OxVox for a 6-a-side tournament. Your wife said you were having your dinner! Unfortunately for you, I could see you sitting in your front room in Marston watching TV!!!!"

In particular there are those who (now rather embarrassingly) supported the Tigger takeover last February, and those who were more enthusiastic for the rival bid from Oxford-fan Stewart Donald (who at the time was owner of Eastleigh FC) and his business partner Juan Sartori. OUFC's owner at the time was Darryl Eales, who had overseen promotion from L2, two Wembley finals in the EFL Trophy, Michael Appleton's positive rebuilding of the squad, the giant-killings of Swansea City and Newcastle United, and an 8th-placed finish in L1 just four points behind that season's play-off winners Millwall. Eales apparently promised to sell to whichever bid would be ultimately better for the football club, but as the Donald/Sartori bid dragged slowly on, Tigger came in with a better offer (with whose money we still don't really know). Donald/Sartori, meanwhile, are now enjoying life at the helm of promotion-chasing Sunderland FC instead. Hence the falling-outs.

I have looked back at the reports of Tigger's first press conference last February, when he first bought OUFC, and in the light of a third HMRC winding-up petition they make for terrible reading. Remembering that he'd already embarrassed himself by turning up late that day (being so disorganised that he missed his train from London and was reportedly later seen by a local journalist looking lost and confused at Oxford Parkway railway station, over six miles from the ground), he went on to say:

"When I first met Darryl (Eales), he showed me the city, he showed me Oxford. I felt first thing, Oxford is one of the world famous cities by name and when I came here I liked the city. That is the first thing that attracted me."

...sounding like a lost tourist asking for directions to the Harry Potter museum! More worryingly, when asked the much more serious question of how he would deal with local slum-landlord and stadium-owner Firoz Kassam, he replied:

"I haven't gone deep into details yet. I'm more than happy to meet him to talk, but I don't think it's really critical, I don't think so."

As the young people say these days, WTF??!! Crazy

Personally, I can't help but think that Tigger has come into all this with no plan whatsoever. With the help of some moneyed friends who have better things to do (but who like the idea of associating with the word 'Oxford'), he's hoped that by throwing what small change he has at the club, they'll hopefully get them into the play-offs with the help of a gift-of-the-gab manager (like he did with Reading FC) and have a stab at the Championship, before selling it all on to some other mug dazzled by the bright lights of English football. Meeting Firoz or anyone from the City Council is of no interest to him because he's unlikely to still be around when the lease of the Kassam stadium comes up in six years time. For the same reasons, finding a new ground ain't gonna be his problem either.

From top to bottom, Oxford United are a football club in one hell of a mess.


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Comings and goings for Oxford United in the run-up to this afternoon’s visit of Pompey, but still no new names in the important (and still embarrassingly underpopulated) position of centre forward.

The good news for Oxford’s fans is that West Ham loanee Marcus Browne is staying until the end of the season - he is easily Oxford’s most capable first-teamer when he can be bothered to put in the effort (though to be fair to him, he’s played an awful lot of football recently so is knackered, and also seems to receive a lot of physical attention from opponents). Also good will be the first home appearance of Wolves’ loanee Jordan Graham - if OUFC are to make a decent stab at escaping the relegation battle, it’ll probably centre on this bloke.

Karl has got himself a new signing: midfielder Ahmed Kashi from French L2 side Troyes. Most Oxford fans are politely reserving their judgement until they’ve seen him play, but let’s just say that he has a history of achilles injuries, he previously played for Karl at Charlton, apparently he’s not a terribly pleasant character, and he can’t score goals. So he’ll obviously fit in at Oxford United perfectly!

And another player has headed outwards: Cameron Norman has gone to Walsall for an undisclosed sum, giving more evidence to the idea that, despite all the brave words, Tiger really doesn’t have the money to spend on a new striker until the books are balanced, the wage-bill is cut and HMRC are finally paid. Rumour has it that Cameron, despite being a decent player, fell out of favour following a fist-fight (which he lost!) against Karl’s no.2 Sean Derry. All well in the dressing room, then!

Still no news on whether Gavin Whyte will play today - hopefully he won’t, because he’s one of the few Oxford players that could actually cause Pompey problems this afternoon. However, so traumatised was he after being caught swinging his todger in public last weekend that he had to take the day off work on Tuesday (ahh, diddums! I must remember that excuse myself next time I fancy a skive!) and Karl is still judging the situation.

This afternoon’s referee is Christopher Sarginson, who apparently awarded AFC Wimbledon a soft penalty against Oxford last March, allowing Karl to get his excuses in even earlier today! On the bright side, most OUFC fans on their forum seem quite optimistic, with predictions of 3-0. Ha ha, we’ll wait and see! Wink

All six sides at the bottom of L1 are at home today, suggesting that at least a couple of them could get a win, meaning some big changes are possible come 5pm. Wimbledon are slightly adrift, but otherwise it looks very tight at the foot of the table...

Oxford v. Pompey
Bradford v. Southend
AFCW v. Barnsley
Bristol Rovers v. Wycombe
Plymouth v. Coventry
Rochdale v. Fleetwood


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Must say I am looking forward to what you have to say should you and the other Pompey 1793 Pompey fans depart the Kassam this afternoon a beaten side, mind you I aint holding my breath.Sly


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Must say I am looking forward to what you have to say should you and the other Pompey 1793 Pompey fans depart the Kassam this afternoon a beaten side, mind you I aint holding my breath.Sly


I’ve seen it happen too many times before to find that at all funny... Unsure

...but thanks for the kind thought! Tongue


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I reckon he's taken a skive today, can't comment on whether he used the todger tactic though!


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Must say I am looking forward to what you have to say should you and the other Pompey 1793 Pompey fans depart the Kassam this afternoon a beaten side, mind you I aint holding my breath.Sly


Luckily, work on Monday wasn't as painfully abusive as expected - perhaps Pompey are still top (just about) and Oxford are still in the mire (just about) thankfully softening emotions on both sides.

After some of us went on a tour of the pubs of Headington following the football on Saturday to drown our sorrows, I headed home and fell asleep to a peculiarly disturbing dream about that afternoon's match, in which I jumped/fell from the South Stand Upper, clambered over the seats below and then ran on in order to help Pompey score a goal. On reaching the pitch, however, my legs sank into the mud up to my knees and I was stuck, watching as play continued in the far distance.

Thanks to this thread, I'm now even having nightmares about the bloody Kassam Stadium!

Anyway...


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...lets get this bit over and done with...

Oxford United 2-1 Portsmouth

...with the Oxford players putting on their best performance of the season, beating the division leaders and jumping out of the relegation places in spectacular fashion. Pompey were properly awful, but that's not what this thread is about - the Oxford players to a man played with passion, eagerness and commitment, and deserved their win. On top of that, the home support helped create probably the best atmosphere I've experienced in seventeen years of visiting the Kassam Stadium.

Player of the match, in my opinion, was Wolves loanee Jordan Graham who stood head-and-shoulders above every other player on the pitch. After playing no small part in lifting both the crowd and his teammates over the past couple of weeks, he contributed greatly to the comeback at Fleetwood and then even more on Saturday against Pompey. He ran his markers ragged, assisted with the opening goal, helped to win a large number of Oxford's ten corners, and then took many of those corners with the skill and insight of the Premiership player that he is, putting the Pompey defenders under even more pressure. His obvious skill could go a very long way towards turning Oxford's season around, and on the occasions I've heard him speak, he has shown himself to be intelligent and articulate way beyond the average 23yo footballer. His presence in the L1 relegation battle is down to the questionable football genius of Paul Lambert, who after previously jettisoning Jordan Graham from first Wolves and then Aston Villa, then decided to most recently send him packing from a loan spell at Ipswich Town - looking at their position, can Ipswich really afford to be turning away a talent like this? Those Portman Road season-ticket holders who post on this forum should perhaps remember all this come the end of this season.

The other stand-out player was midfielder James Henry, who scored the second goal and is now way ahead in the OUFC scoring tally with thirteen goals. This lad has been carrying the entire team on his shoulders all season, and if there is any justice he'll be the obvious winner of the club's player-of-the-season trophy. Oxford fans should shudder to think what their league position would be without him in the team.

And perhaps there is even more good news, this time surrounding Curtis Nelson. The figurehead defender celebrated the win with obvious joy and gusto at the final whistle. Is he on the verge of finally being offered a new contract, maybe?

Speaking afterwards, it was obvious that Karl Robinson was happy for himself, the players and the fans. For all his faults, Karl has continually taken the heat and the flak out of situations this season, often taking the abuse himself while shielding the players and his own chairman from much of the criticism flying around. Perhaps he's learnt from the off-field chaos that surrounded his stint Charlton Athletic and is putting that experience to good use - if so, I take my hat off to him.

However, it is not all good news... Firstly, Oxford's highly reliable goalkeeper Simon Eastwood has picked up a knee injury described as "worrying". Secondly, just as they're getting into their stride, Oxford now have two weeks without a league fixture due to Accrington's cup exploits, meaning they could well be up to six points behind Plymouth by the time they go to Burton on 2nd February (though perhaps the time off will be good for resting). Lastly, and perhaps more importantly, there seems very little acknowledgement from the Oxford camp of quite how dire Pompey were - this was the perfect storm of Oxford's best performance of the season and Pompey's worst, yet the gap was still only a single goal and it got very nervy for them at the end. To keep climbing, Oxford will need to play like this in every match, but hoping that Sunderland/Barnsley/Posh and everyone else will play just as badly will be asking for a lot. And it is very tight at the bottom - the seven clubs spread from 23rd to 17th are separated by just five points.

Off the pitch, some of the hard work ethic shown by the players might just be rubbing off onto other people. Over on the local radio station where they rarely contribute anything more challenging than tiresome wisecracks to Peter Rhoades-Brown's confused mumblings, main sports presenter Jerome Sale finally remembered that he's actually a BBC journalist and got round to asking some proper questions to chairman Tigger Thanakarnjanasuth, in particular about the three late HMRC payments. However, what should have been an interview that helped to clear the murky waters seemed to do no more that further exacerbate the anger felt by many of the fans. The most recent missed HMRC payment was blamed by Tigger on "unpredictable expense", with Tigger hinting that it was linked to delays in the building of the new training ground. Since when was it okay to spend your PAYE and NI contributions on a training ground? Over the top of the taxman? And this is a training ground that BMW are apparently contributing £4.9ml to (and it's also been pointed out on the fans' forum that Lincoln City FC have just built a very similar training ground, less a G3 pitch, for a quarter of that price!)

Despite some dogged questioning, Jerome could well have pushed harder - some of those "unexpected expenses" will most likely have been the result of the halted arbitration with Firoz Kassam and the outstanding £600k of service charges owed. Whatever, Tigger's time at Reading FC really means that any ignorance of the UK tax system is inexcusable. And what about the EFL's 'Fit & Proper' standards - surely these would check that potential buyers have funds to cover "unexpected expences"? Most worrying of all was the exchange that went:

Jerome: "It feels like it needs a... Niall McWilliams [OUFC MD] needs a big fighting fund facility to dip into if the unpredictable bills come in again."

Tigger: "No, I don't think so."


Even then, Jerome Sale still needed an Oxford-supporting accountant called Stuart to phone in and explain that, looking at the dates, this late payment would have been the PAYE contributions owed from November's paypackets, and not December's, meaning that Tigger's claim that he'd had an agreement with HMRC is, quite frankly, utter bollocks! Despite the handsome win, all four phone callers put on air during the post-match phone-in (Robin, Tim, Stuart and Daniel) wanted to talk almost entirely about the off-field situation surrounding Tigger's finances. Nearly the first thing that Tigger did last February when he took over OUFC was to move the club's holding company from the UK to Singapore - add to this the fact that Tigger is based in Thailand and Thohir in Indonesia, it make the whole scope of OUFC's finances very difficult for anyone (whether HMRC, the fans, the MD, the EFL, local journalists or anyone owed cash) to keep an eye on what is going on (remember that news of the most recent missed payment was made public not by the club, not by the BBC, not by any of the newspapers, but by a normal fan on the OUFC fans' independent forum). And then in Monday morning's Oxford Mail, Tigger goes and admits that the cost of funding OUFC had taken him "by surprise", so the chances are that, despite Tigger's waffle, this chaos is far from over. And this is "fit and proper"??!!

For those wanting a brief resume of the whole situation, Gregor Robertson's 'The Journeyman' column in Monday's 'The Times' devoted a whole page to the story. Obviously this being a Rupert Murdoch newspaper, they simply can't resist being all a bit childish about Gavin Whyte being caught masterbating in a Belfast street. But otherwise it's a good summary.

Tomorrow, Oxford United are away at Bury in the quarter-final of the Checkatrade Trophy.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 34%, with seventeen wins from fifty matches in all competitions.


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The excitement never stops! First turn over the league leaders on Saturday, then on Tuesday take a proper stuffing at the hands of a L2 side, with...

Bury 5-2 Oxford United

...admittedly a very good L2 side, who have now won all six matches they've played in 2019, scoring an impressive nineteen goals.

Of course, it was only the Checkatrade, and Oxford have much more important matters to fry over the coming weeks. But it does seem to be a defeat that has struck a nerve when looking at the comments from quite a few fans, when listening to Karl's post-match interview, and when hearing observations of the players' body-language afterwards...

Some pre-match observations by Bury fans on Twitter seemed to suggest annoyance that they were putting out a weakened starting line-up (as is often the case in this competition) with four changes to the side that won at Forest Green, particularly with the two scorers dropped to the bench - even more so when it was pointed out that Oxford's starting eleven was probably their strongest possible, with only two changes from Saturday's. They needn't have worried - Oxford's strongest-possible back-four/goalie combo shipped five goals, which even in the Checkatrade has to be seen as a worry.

Some Oxford fans have questioned why Karl picked such a strong line-up. The answer: OUFC have an upcoming free weekend, with more time to rest before Barnsley on the 29th, so why not push the boat out a little? Maybe a surprise that he chose to play keeper Simon Eastwood, considering his injury worries, but otherwise this was as strong a side as Karl could have sent out on the pitch. And in the back of my mind, considering all of OUFC's financial issues of late, there is also the suspicion that the £50,000 prize for winning this match would have been very much on chairman Tigger's radar.

Instead, it sounds like it turned into a bit of a disaster for Oxford. Reserves or not, Bury ran riot and capitalised on a string of errors. Afterwards, Karl was so obviously incensed with the performance that in his post-match interview he snapped at radio-interviewer Nathan Cooper that the 101 Oxford fans who'd made the journey to Gigg Lane would have their ticket money reimbursed by the players. That's a typical knee-jerk reaction from Karl Robinson, who has a habit of this style of shooting-from-the-hip, but most football fans will appreciate the sentiment, so it's difficult to disagree with him. The body-language of the players, who afterwards were sent back out onto the pitch into icy conditions still in their kit to conduct their warm-down, suggests they feel slightly differently. A chilly coach journey back down the M6 tonight in more ways than one, then!

More bad news - West Ham loanee Marcus Browne appears to have picked up a hamstring injury.

Even worse news for Oxford United came in L1 in the shape of...

Plymouth Argyle 2-1 Walsall

...which is Plymouth's fourth consecutive league win on the trot, bumping them all the way up to the dizzying heights of 17th, and shunting Oxford back into the relegation places.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 33.3%, with seventeen wins from fifty-one matches in all competitions.


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Despite Karl reiterating the fact every couple of days for the past eight weeks, that he is very much in the market for buying two strikers during the transfer window, Oxford fans have had to cope with this heading in today's Oxford Mail...

"Oxford United Miss Out In Attempt To Sign Striker Before Barnsley Clash"

Karl actually spent last weekend trawling the flesh-pots of the Netherlands league on the lookout for talent, though it seems that the closest he got to signing up a Dutch name was a contract with Hertz Van Hire! He now has until 11pm on Thursday - barely fifty hours - to deliver what he has been promising since the end of the previous window last August.

The Oxford United Ultras, who generally populate the East Stand, have hung their banners upside-down for tonight's match as a sign of their dissatisfaction with the way the club is being run.

Oxford United are tonight at home to third-placed Barnsley. Barnsley have won six and drawn one of their last seven league matches, with the draw being away at top-placed Luton.


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Blimey! Oxford United are 1-0 up at half-time! And listening on the radio, it sounds like they're playing well - could/should have been two-up.

However, their closest rivals are winning too: Bristol Rovers are 2-1 up at home to Peterborough, and Bradford City are 2-1 up at home to Shrewsbury.


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Could have been worse, but could also have been better, finishing...

Oxford United 2-2 Barnsley

That's a very good point against a high-flying Barnsley side who are very much on form at the moment. In fact, to take four points against Pompey and Barnsley in the past two league matches ought to have the fans praising Karl for maybe beginning to turn things around - after all, these are the two opponents who each put four past Oxford back in August. Most importantly, this point won moves Oxford back out of the relegation places on goal-difference.

However, some of the fans are still grumbling about a two-goal lead being chucked away in the final twenty minutes. Going on the chances they had in the first half, Oxford could have had an even stronger lead. On top of that, there were strong results from other sides down the bottom, too: Bristol Rovers drew 2-2 with Peterborough and Gillingham got a goalless draw at home to Accrington. The stand-out scoreline, though, has to be Bradford City's 4-3 win at home to Shrewsbury, their winner coming in the 90+6th minute. If nothing else for Oxford, it at least drags Shrewsbury back into the mix.

The lower reaches of L1 are now looking very tight. Wimbledon are beginning to drift away, but there are now seven sides sat between 29 and 33 points, stretching from Bristol Rovers in 23rd up to Plymouth in 17th. And the half-dozen or so above there don't exactly look comfortable.

Karl is fairly certain that a decent striker will be named tomorrow, probably on loan, though he says that it's someone he previously thought was outside his budget. With the fans wearing their Colombo hats, James Vaughan of Wigan or Peter Crouch of Stoke seem to be the two favourites among st the speculation.

I have a ticket for Saturday's trip to Burton Albion. It should be interesting.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United is now 32.7%, with seventeen wins in fifty-two matches in all competitions.


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Good news for all those Oxford United fans glued to the SKY Sports Transfer Deadline Day Extravaganza: Karl has finally got a striker!

It's 22yo Jerome Sinclair - a Premiership footballer from Watford, who bought him from none other than Liverpool for a rollicking £4million! And he's scored four times in ten U16 and U17 England appearances! Well how's about that!


And now the bad news...

*It is only a loan signing.

*Despite being described as a striker, in his previous loan spell at Sunderland he netted just twice in nineteen appearances.

*He never scored a league goal for Liverpool.

*He never scored for Watford.

*He never scored while on loan at Wigan Athletic.

*He never scored while on loan at Birmingham City.

*In a total of 30 league appearances for five different clubs, he has only ever scored one league goal.

*And on top of that, he has been described as "injury prone".


He'll obviously fit in brilliantly at the Kassam Stadium then!


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Two more points for Oxford United, taking their unbeaten run to five matches. I was at...

Burton Albion 0-0 Oxford United

...and they were pretty mediocre, failing against a side reduced to ten men after just twelve minutes. A week later they got...

Oxford United 1-1 Sunderland

...and apparently played a lot better. Now they face Peterborough United at home tomorrow with it remaining very tight at the bottom. Despite a midweek win, AFCW seem to be drifting - however, the five above including OUFC are all on thirty-two or thirty-three points, while Walsall on thirty-five points seem to be fall fast. Nobody at the foot of League One has a particularly tough match tomorrow, so you'd expect someone at least to get a win (though at least one of either Bradford or Plymouth will drop points, as they're playing each other). Saturday's fixtures are:

Oxford United v. Peterborough United
Bradford City v. Plymouth Argyle
Coventry City v. Walsall
Gillingham v. Scunthorpe United
Shrewsbury Town v. Burton Albion

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United is now 31.5%, with seventeen wins in fifty-four matches in all competitions.


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One piece of news that has come out this past week is the announcement by the Oxford United Ultras fans group that they will cease their colourful banner displays at the end of this current season (though I'm sure that many of the individuals will remain supporters). This is a great shame - since their formation in 2009, this independent group of young fans have been responsible for some of the rare colour seen at the Kassam Stadium, with their huge Italian-ultra style flags and banners displayed in the East Stand like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a4QugPMBps

They made a huge and very memorable flag the size of the stand for a match v. Swindon Town a few years back. All this has been done at their own expense, and they have kept their independence by always refusing financial assistance from the club. In a dismal ground like the Kassam, they really can make a difference with their displays.

However, a few things have come to light recently. For a start these mainly young lads, as they move off to Uni, get married or get tied down to other commitments, have found it very difficult to get fresh blood, help, assistance or support from the vast bulk of other OUFC fans who tend to fit all-too-comfortably the grumbling codger mode.

Secondly, it has become obvious on several occasions that they do not appear to be terribly popular with those high up in the football club itself. A few years back, there was an occasion when this group of fans found themselves belittled at a meeting by the previous club owner. More recently, they have received disparaging attention from present-owner Tigger, after the Ultras decided to express this displeasure at the running of the club by hanging their banners up-side-down - a small symbol of their feelings that in no way affected their full support for the efforts of the players on the pitch. Tigger comes from a culture where even the quietest of raised voices are taken as acts of disrespect, and apparently he did not take kindly to having his faults pointed out to him by this group of paying fans. Then, before the Sunderland match, there was reportedly much unhelpfulness towards the Ultras from the stadium management staff. The club MD Niall McWilliams then went on local radio this week to express his opinion that the club themselves should be working to improve the match-day atmosphere. Things that make you go hmmm...

No doubt there is at least another side to this story. However, it seems to be another sign of the decay in the club's structure and off-field management that they are willing to allow the alienation of this particular group of fans to take place.


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One piece of news that has come out this past week is the announcement by the Oxford United Ultras fans group that they will cease their colourful banner displays at the end of this current season (though I'm sure that many of the individuals will remain supporters). This is a great shame - since their formation in 2009, this independent group of young fans have been responsible for some of the rare colour seen at the Kassam Stadium, with their huge Italian-ultra style flags and banners displayed in the East Stand.

All this has been done at their own expense, and they have kept their independence by always refusing financial assistance from the club. In a dismal ground like the Kassam, they really can make a difference with their displays.

...it has become obvious on several occasions that they do not appear to be terribly popular with those high up in the football club itself. A few years back, there was an occasion when this group of fans found themselves belittled at a meeting by the previous club owner. More recently, they have received disparaging attention from present-owner Tigger, after the Ultras decided to express this displeasure at the running of the club by hanging their banners up-side-down - a small symbol of their feelings that in no way affected their full support for the efforts of the players on the pitch. Tigger comes from a culture where even the quietest of raised voices are taken as acts of disrespect, and apparently he did not take kindly to having his faults pointed out to him by this group of paying fans. Then, before the Sunderland match, there was reportedly much unhelpfulness towards the Ultras from the stadium management staff. The club MD Niall McWilliams then went on local radio this week to express his opinion that the club themselves should be working to improve the match-day atmosphere. Things that make you go hmmm...

No doubt there is at least another side to this story. However, it seems to be another sign of the decay in the club's structure and off-field management that they are willing to allow the alienation of this particular group of fans to take place.


Even since I posted the above on Friday night, this story of the Oxford Ultras has gained much pace in just a few short hours, with a Twitter post from them before today's Peterborough match stating...

"Unfortunately there will be no flags on the back wall today. Stadium manager and Head Of Security informed us that they are not allowed up when we arrived at 10:30am."

It seems that these youngster have been allowed in the East Stand between 10:30am and noon each home Saturday for some significant length of time to hang their banners. However, today they say they were told quite bluntly that they weren't allowed in. As a result, during the match the back wall of the East Stand was bare grey concrete, with just one small yellow and blue 'Ultras' banner symbolically hung upside down. There is no denying that this hit the atmosphere during the match.

Obviously this is a complex story, and no doubt more will come out during the coming days. For a start, 'stadium manager' and 'head of security' are two different people at the Kassam Stadium (though apparently closely entwined) - the first is employed by Firoz and the stadium company, the second is a freelance position employed by OUFC. So which party - stadium or club - is responsible for this fiasco is not immediately obvious. There is certainly a particularly unpopular person called Ian Mixter, who is the Kassam 'Safety Officer' and has taken a dislike of the Ultras in the past. Whatever, it has made the greater swathe of Oxford fans on the forum and the radio phone-in so angry that the insipid performance on the pitch has almost slipped attention.

It is true that OUFC's lease on the Kassam Stadium has a large number of clauses that could best be described as 'unhelpful'. For example, there is a four-figure fee should OUFC wish to use the ground for training on a day that is not a matchday (hence the desperate fuss over the new training ground lately). Another clause is that OUFC are not allowed access to the Kassam Stadium until noon on the day of a 3pm kick-off - a clause that actually hindered Peterborough United today when their team bus turned up early! However, somewhere along the way (until today), someone gave the Ultras permission to hang their banners between 10:30am and noon.

In the two weeks running up to last weeks fixture v. Sunderland, the club put in probably their most intense marketing effort for a home match in many years, calling for the people of Oxford to help make a 10,000 attendance. And this they did, with the help of a large following of Mackems: 10,383. Apparently, the atmosphere was fantastic, helped in no small part by the efforts of the Ultras, with Oxford being roared to a late equaliser and a valuable point. So to turn around to these same fans less than a week later and imply that their style of support is not wanted is unbelievable. I'm not Inspector Morse, but others are beginning to question whether this directive came from Tigger bruised ego. Wherever it did come from, it's an absolute public relations disaster.

To anyone with no interest in the messy life of OUFC, this might all look like just another pointless argument. However, I reckon it goes a lot deeper than that. For a start, the hypocrisy coming from those at the top of the club is beginning to properly stink. As if the comments on the radio on Thursday by OUFC's MD Niall McWilliams don't now look bad enough, Tigger then goes on to write in the matchday programme for the Peterborough match...

"A crowd of over 10,000 last week shows what we can achieve, but I imagine we will lose 3,000 fans from that today. Those missing fans must surely have enjoyed the drama and the performance last weekend? Can we do more to get them along to games more regularly? Can we make coming to games something they do week after week? We will do our best to encourage it, but everyone here today can help. As we saw last week, support and encouragement can be crucial, so spread the word, bring people along, and everyone play their part in helping Oxford United stay in League 1 and then learn from this season and really grow."

You couldn't make this bollocks up!!

Much more sense was spoken on BBC Radio Oxford after the match, particularly by a caller called Nedge, who spoke about something not adding up at the club, and of the heart of the club having been ripped out. Head presenter Jerome Sale, who can often be a little guilty of towing the party line, then followed this up with his own personal soliloquy of obvious heartfelt feeling about the chaos of the stadium situation, saying...

"I think where we possibly need to examine this is actually where you talk about the club ... at this site where OUFC are at. Niall McWilliams saying that they're down to two of three sites going forward. I think we've seen today from half past ten this morning until now exactly why this situation that OUFC have found themselves in with the stadium company in particular, and how that impacts the players, the fans, people working behind the scenes, the commercial department, etc. etc. It cannot go on.

Because from ten thirty this morning when the Ultras weren't able to get in, when Peterborough United weren't able to get into the ground to get their stuff ready, never mind OUFC, that shows what a poisonous relationship there is currently between tenant and landlord. And whoever's fault it is, it has to change.

This relationship between club and stadium company has to be sorted out, and I mean like by the next time they play here, because it's absolutely crackers at the moment."


What with all this, it was easy to forget events on the pitch. It was a dreadful match, finishing...

Oxford United 0-1 Peterborough United

...though Karl still found time to tell the airwaves that he thought Oxford were the better team. Well that's alright, then! Despite the illusion of some decent recent form, the truth is that Oxford have now won just two of their last thirteen matches, they still have not won away in the league, they have only won seven league matches all season, and their much vaunted promises to buy a new goalscorer has resulted in just one goal in the three matches since the end of the transfer window. Oh, and a win for Gillingham dumps Oxford back in the relegation spaces, too.

And yet even if it does get worse, Karl isn't really the problem. He can improve or he can be sacked. The players can improve or they can be replaced. But the chairman is a different matter. Karl's gob does him few favours, but I'm beginning to feel sorry for him because the more I think about this, the more the present troubles at club seem to stem back to OUFC's past and present chairmen.

Next up: a winter Tuesday night away at Accrington Stanley...

Karl's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 30.9%, with seventeen wins in fifty-five matches in all competitions.


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On Monday 18th, Oxford United FC were issued with their fourth winding-up petition in less than twelve months.

This most recent one comes from Firoka, the stadium company owned by ex-chairman Firoz Kassam.

It was reported on the fans’ forum over the weekend by reliable sources that bailiffs had arrived at the OUFC training ground and seized several large lawn-mowers needed for the upkeep of the pitches. I’m going to have a guess that these issues might be linked.

The club have agreed to pay their outstanding bills as soon as possible.

The fans’ forum is now alight with demands for a protest against the present club owner.


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The club safety officer has resigned:
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...an-mixter-resigning/


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The club safety officer has resigned:
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...an-mixter-resigning/


You beat me to it!

Ian Mixter, the OUFC Safety Officer, has resigned following “vile abuse” surrounding the decisions made that prevented the Oxford Ultras from hanging their banners as usual along the back of the stadium East Stand for the Peterborough United Match last Saturday.

Obviously, if any abuse and threats have been made towards Mixter and his family, these should be condemned by all proper people. However, reading between the lines, it seems that Mixter has done very little to endear himself to either the Ultras or the regular bulk of fans over the past months, and feeling on both sides have reached breaking point in what is obviously a toxic atmosphere around the Kassam Stadium at the moment. The Oxford Ultras, who previously stated that they’d bring their flag and banner displays to a close at the end of the season, have now said that they will end them with immediate affect.

Tonight, Oxford United play away at Accrington Stanley. For a side yet to win away in the league this season, is this a possibility? If they don’t win tonight, I’d expect the calls for Charlton/Blackpool type protests to gain some real momentum....


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More bad news for Oxford United...

Accrington Stanley 4-2 Oxford United

...a defeat that drops Oxford to third from bottom.

This was Accrington’s first win since Boxing Day, so they were hardly a big challenge, though are obviously a club run a lot better than OUFC.

Two goals for Oxford is at least one glimmer of good, though both goals actually came from defenders, and not the much lauded new introductions up front.

Next up, Blackpool away.

AFC Wimbledon’s win tonight means that Oxford United and Shrewsbury Town now have the fewest number of league wins in L1, with seven wins each.

Karl Robinson’s win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 30.3%, with seventeen wins from fifty-six matches in all competitions.


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It was one whole year ago today that Sumrith 'Tigger' Thanakarnjanasuth turned up at his press conference late, confused, unprepared and wearing that stupid bow-tie to announce that he was the new chairman of Oxford United FC. Happy days!

No mention of this historic first anniversary on the OUFC website today, just a story about how well Oxford United Virtual XI are doing - that's a computer game, I think. Compared to playing Space Invaders at the local arcade circa 1981 and typing in the letters N O B on the top-ten table, it sounds rubbish.

What did happen today was another 'Five Minute Fans' Forum' on the Howard Bentham Show on BBC Radio Oxford, this time quizzing Karl Robinson himself in the aftermath of the defeat at Accrington and the four winding-up petition. Here are the highlights (paraphrased to an extent) of the fans' questions and Karl's answers...

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Q. The level of trust between the club and supporters is at an all-time low. Given what's happened on and off the field, why should fans have any confidence in the people at all levels running the club?

KR. I get that, I really do... There's great people within the football club and there are so many issues that still need to be made an awful lot better to make the football club more successful over the forthcoming years, maybe. But I know how much people within the building really care and I've seen that first hand. I feel sorry for some of the things that have gone on and the things we have to take responsibility for. There's been a number of things taken out of people's control. But fundamentally, it's about learning as well when mistakes are made and are these people willing to learn, and that's me included. And I think everyone is in a better place in relation to the mistakes that have been made. I don't think the club is in a better place, but we're all working our socks off to make this a better place to be.

Q. If the team is relegated, would you expect to lose your job?

KR. No, no. That might frustrate a lot of people. The chairman may see it differently. I have tremendous belief in myself, but there's things that've been taken out of my control as a manager, but from my point of view, no.

Q. Do you think it's time to walk away and let someone else try and save the club from relegation?

Q. If the club were relegated, would you consider walking away voluntarily?

KR. I would never walk away, no, no. I was the person to turn things around last year. Fundamentally we shouldn't be in that situation again as last year either. I don't use excuses - I've never done that. No, that's not in my character. I've got tremendous belief in myself. It's not arrogance, it's far from arrogance. It's self-belief, and something I call on in all my players.

Q. Does having midfielders playing at full backs show we were wrong at the start of the season, or wrong now?

KR. No, it doesn't show we were wrong at the start of the season. I can't go into detail about some of the things that happened in the summer because they are quite personal. Jamie Hanson is a right-back, he's not a midfield player. I think in the summer we got it wrong thinking he was a midfield player. Josh Ruffels - he'll hopefully tell you he prefers to play left-back. These are decisions we've made with the players.

Q. Are there specialist coaches for defenders and strikers?

KR. [Coach] Derek Fazackerley is the leading appearance holder at Blackburn Rovers at centre-back. [Coach] Shaun Derry's played centre midfield for a number of big big clubs. We've had Ian Wright come in to speak to our strikers, so we have an awful lot of specialist people in the football club.

Q. Is this the job you thought you were taking a year ago?

KR. Ha-ha! No, no, far from it. I'm not the type of person to say I'm gonna walk away from that. It's another learning opportunity for you. Another opportunity to be a better person. One I'm still looking forward to.

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Brave to admit (in a roundabout way) that he did actually make errors during the summer transfer window, particularly when it comes to what position his targets actually play in! And for all the brave words about belief, the fact is that Karl has won only ten of the forty-three league fixtures he has managed for OUFC - that's a league win ratio of just 23.3%. But say what you like about him, he certainly knows how to stand up for himself and his players, he doesn't hide and he has OUFC in his heart - the interviewer got ten times more feeling and information out of him that he did out of the silly little chairman. I'm certainly warming to Karl a little more than I was earlier in the season/

One thing that Karl couldn't cast much light on, however, was the mess in the boardroom. It turns out that the winding-up petition put forward by Firoka on Monday is for an unpaid bill of £240,000 for the first installment owed on an outstanding total amount of £800,000 owed in stadium service charges (so this is just the start of it!). The dispute over this was the reason why the club went into arbitration with Firoka under previous owner Darryl Eales, who saw the service charge as unfair. The arbitration was still underway when Tigger was catching the wrong train to his press meeting - if he can't read a timetable properly, I'm going to suggest that perhaps he just ticked the box at the bottom of the page instead of reading the contract properly. It was Tigger's idea to prematurely end the arbitration, claiming that it would help improve the club's relationship with Firoz. At that, if you really needed it, is an illustration of how naive and out-of-touch Tigger is with the world of L1 football. I'm sorry, but this ain't going to end well...


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Sorry to overload the world wide web with yet more bone-grindingly sour news about the failing football club up the road, but the Oxford Mail newspaper has today broken the habit of a lifetime and actually printed several pages of stuff worth reading. Under the title:

Year Of The Tiger: Chaotic 12 months leaves Oxford United needing to repair damage

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...ng-to-repair-damage/
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...-says-karl-robinson/
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...hs-at-oxford-united/

...a series of well-written articles by David Pritchard documenting the boardroom failures of the past year under Sumrith Thanakarnjanasuth.

There are some huge issues covered, though none bigger than the three winding-up petitions from HMRC for unpaid bills and a fourth still-outstanding winding-up petition issued this past week by stadium-owners Firoka.

But it's the vast number of little issues that also illustrate how messy the whole situation is. For example, Tigger was understandably proud when the club signed a shirt sponsorship deal with Singha Beer, described as the biggest in the club's history, which included an intention to sell the beer at the stadium. What he failed to do, however, was communicate this with Firoka, the stadium owners, beforehand about this - the stadium already has an exclusive beer deal, and it ain't with Singha! So despite all the adverts on shirts and boards around the ground on matchday, the product of the club's main sponsor is not available at the ground. I suspect there are some very annoyed/embarrassed sales-reps at the Singha HQ in Thailand, grinding their teeth. Maybe sponsorship was tied in some way to sales? And Tigger calls himself a businessman! As that Pogues song 'House Of The Gods' goes...

"Singha beer don't ask no questions; Singha beer don't tell no lies" !!

You begin to notice other small things, too. Last Saturday before the kick-off against Peterborough, the referee called the players to the centre-circle. There was absolutely no announcement on the tannoy about what this was for, and my immediate thought was that it would be a minute-silence following the discovery of the body of Emiliano Sala after the tragic plane crash. However, once it turned into a minute-applause, I realised it was actually in memory of Gordon Banks. Only at the very end of the half-time break, as the players came out for the second-half, did Peter Rhoades-Brown finally announce the reason. Like I say, it's a small issue, but it makes you think that the thoughts of everyone at the club - staff, fans, players, chairman, accountants - are somewhere else entirely, and not on the tasks in hand.


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Good news on the road at last for OUFC...

Blackpool 0-1 Oxford United

...and Oxford's first league victory away from home since winning at Doncaster Rovers last April, over ten months ago. A very good performance too, apparently, against an in-form Blackpool, won with an outstanding goal from Jordan Graham. The three wise monkeys on the radio got very excited by it all and reckon that this could be the turning point. However, be aware that the Blackpool Gazette headlines it as "No Creativity Against A Limited Team." Ho-hum. The only clubs now left in the ninety-two without an away win this season are Fulham and Rotherham United.

There was mixed news for the others at the foot of L1 today. As well as Oxford United, there were also wins for Shrewsbury, Gillingham, Walsall (their first in six matches) and Plymouth - indeed, Plymouth are now as high as fourteenth. Meanwhile, all four now in the relegation spaces lost - that's AFC Wimbledon, Bradford City, Rochdale and Bristol Rovers. Oxford are now in the golden twentieth place, with a gap of two points over Rovers in twenty-first.

Next week - at home to Scunthorpe United.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 31.6%, with eighteen wins in fifty-seven matches in all competitions.


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Last week's win at home to Scunthorpe United was the first time this season that Oxford United have managed back-to-back league wins, an achievement that got their fans so excited that one of them started a thread on their fans' forum predicting that OUFC will be finishing the season at the dizzying heights of 12th place! The last time enthusiasm was this rampant was immediately before Christmas, when someone else predicted the play-offs. Meaning that today's result of...

Gillingham 1-0 Oxford United

...will be seen as a mighty kick in the balls, especially as it dumps Oxford back into the relegation zone. A badly-defended corner in the 89th minute was what finished them off against relegation rivals.

Listening on the radio, it seemed Karl Robinson was livid with so many things, with most of his post-match summary revolving around his beliefs that yet again a) Oxford were the better team, and b) it was all the referee's fault. However, even those in his own camp couldn't back him up this time around - OUFC goalie Simon Eastwood was brave enough to point out that, no, in his opinion the ref was correct not to award a penalty to Oxford. And the BBC Oxford radio team pointed out that despite Karl's shouting about a "disgraceful" foul by Gillingham's Barry Fuller on Gavin Whyte, it actually was punished, it's just that the ref played advantage to Oxford before going back to book Fuller later on. You sometimes wonder if Karl is watching the same match! Whatever, conceding to a set-piece in the last two minutes is more likely to do with lack of concentration.

You also have to wonder if the managers of Doncaster, Peterborough, Shrewsbury, Scunthorpe and Fleetwood all moaned about their particular referees quite as much as Karl did this afternoon. Because they're the teams who all lost to Oxford's immediate relegation rivals, meaning victories for AFC Wimbledon, Bradford City, Rochdale, Walsall and Bristol Rovers. Of Saturday morning's bottom seven in L1, Oxford were the only ones to lose - the other six all won. The one sliver of good news is that it is still incredibly tight at the bottom of L1 - Oxford are still only five points behind Wycombe in twelfth place, and there is still a long way to go.

Losing this six-pointer to Gillingham and slumping to 21st place is a bad start to an important week for Oxford. On Tuesday they're away at 22nd placed Rochdale, then next Saturday they're at home to 23rd placed Bradford City. Both those sides have new managers who have today got off to winning starts.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 32.2%, with nineteen wins in fifty-nine matches in all competitions.


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Oxford United's ten remaining league matches...

12/3 - Rochdale (a)
16/3 - Bradford City (H)
23/3 - Coventry City (a)
30/3 - Wycombe W. (H)
06/4 - Walsall (a)
13/4 - AFC Wimbledon (H)
19/4 - Charlton Athletic (H)
22/4 - Shrewsbury Town (a)
27/4 - Doncaster Rovers (H)
04/5 - Luton Town (a)

At least five six-pointers among that lot, against Rochdale, Bradford, Walsall, Wimbledon and Shrewsbury. On top of that, three of the final four fixtures are against promotion chasers, finishing with a trip to Luton on the last day of the season.


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There's a full fixture list tonight in League One, which'll no doubt have a big influence on the relegation battle. Here are the matches involving the bottom eight clubs (though you could argue that it's actually so tight at the bottom at the moment, that the relegation battle presently goes all the way up to Wycombe in 12th place in the top half of the table)...

AFC Wimbledon v. Peterborough United
Bradford City v. Luton Town
Gillingham v. Bristol Rovers
Plymouth Argyle v. Shrewsbury Town
Rochdale v. Oxford United
Wycombe Wanderers v. Accrington Stanley
Scunthorpe United v. Southend United

Bradford City have a particularly difficult ask against Luton, but you could argue that every other one of those bottom eight could/should be expecting a win if they seriously want to claw their way out of the fight and drag some of those in midtable back in. And seeing as six of the bottom seven on Saturday got wins, there is the possibility of some big changes come the end of this evening.

The biggest match at the bottom is the six-pointer between Rochdale in 22nd place and Oxford United in 21st place.


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Tuesday's final scores...

AFC Wimbledon 1-0 Peterborough United
Bradford City 0-1 Luton Town
Gillingham 0-1 Bristol Rovers
Plymouth Argyle 2-1 Shrewsbury Town
Rochdale 0-0 Oxford United
Wycombe Wanderers 1-2 Accrington Stanley
Scunthorpe United 4-1 Southend United

Wins for AFCW, Bristol Rovers,Accrington and Scunthorpe, with the Rochdale v Oxford match finishing goalless, and narrow defeats for Bradford and Shrewsbury (with Shrews conceding very late on).

AFCW have now won four and drawn one of their last six league matches, and have narrowed the gap from bottom to 20th place to just four points. Seven of their final nine matches are against fellow strugglers.

Oxford United remain in 21st place, now on 40 points, behind Shrewsbury by just a gap of two goals.

And there's a new name in the relegation bundle: Southend United's stuffing tonight at Scunthorpe means they have now won just one of their last eleven league matches, and seem to be dropping like a stone.


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Truth of the matter is that it is still a jungle in the lower half of League-1, and no one from Plymouth (12th place) downwards is assured of safety
AFC Wimbledon may be bottom, but a couple more wins could send them to safety.


For us in League-2, it seems more straight forward - Cheltenham's home form in recent weeks has taken them up towards the safety margin. Most of the others above 22nd place have also been picking up points.

In fact, it is difficult to think beyond the two incumbents in the bottom places and the Wayward (pun intended) Yeovil for the drop
Am I right in thinking that if Maccs go down, they are the first promoted side to last only one season?



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Truth of the matter is that it is still a jungle in the lower half of League-1, and no one from Plymouth (12th place) downwards is assured of safety
AFC Wimbledon may be bottom, but a couple more wins could send them to safety.


With just nine matches left, you begin to spot the teams who have some momentum behind themselves of late, and those who are beginning to look very fragile. AFC Wimbledon have looked dead and buried for most of the season but have suddenly picked up a bit of pace, and like I say, seven of their nine remaining matches are against those in and around the relegation places. Bristol Rovers have also picked up a bit of bounce, winning their last three on the trot and climbing up to 16th place.

In contrast, Southend United are dropping like a stone - just one win in their last eleven league matches. Walsall have fallen sharply, too - their next three matches are against Sunderland, Barnsley and Doncaster, and they could easily be very deep in it by the start of April.

I feel Oxford United fall between these two stools. For all their admitted quality in most parts of the team and some excellent players, along with possibly the best goalkeeper in L1, they consistently fail to rise to the occasion - despite starting the season with the eighth largest budget in the division, the squad has been left wafer-thin whenever injuries have kicked in, and players seem to be consistently played out of position. Particularly troublesome, Karl Robinson has overworked/over-relied upon his best players and failed to rest them adequately (resulting in at least some of those injuries), has continued to pick a one-up-front formation long after it was obviously not working, and most of all has fouled up in the transfer market. Last summer's promised "WOW!" signings were woeful in the extreme, with way too much in the way of uncommitted on-loan fodder. Then, despite the promise that scouting was being done for a goalscorer and more money was being made available, he has managed to mess up in the January window, too. Since the end of the January window, Oxford have scored just six goals in eight matches, and tonight they failed to score against a Rochdale side who seem to hemorrhage goals for fun.

At no point this season have Oxford managed to climb above 18th position. They have been in the relegation places for twenty-four of the thirty-seven matches played this season. They have won only nine league matches this season, the worst rate in the division and matched only by Shrewsbury (who still manage to be above them).

Following this evening's...

Rochdale 0-0 Oxford United

...Karl came out with even more of his regular madness, after first stating that a) Oxford were the better side and b) the officials cocked it up again, with gems such as:

"Away from home, a point's a good point."

"We are getting better as a football club."

"I know how to win games, I know how to defend games."

"I know there's goals in this team, I see it every day, I just don't see it carrying onto the football pitch."

...and the unbelievable...

"We're in the top six for what we should have scored." Crazy

Despite Karl's erratic post-match statements and eight months of struggle, the Oxford fans on the whole have begrudgingly stuck by him throughout the season so far, partly because the absent Tigger and pantomime villan Firoz have instead absorbed most of the fans' ire for their roles in the HMRC and Ultra debacles. However, since last Saturday's defeat at Gillingham, there has been a swelling feeling of anger on the OUFC fans' forum and among Oxford fans I know that is very much aimed at Karl. New-manager bounces at Bradford and Rochdale have shone a light on the fact that this has been a horrific season for Oxford that simply doesn't show a sign of getting better.

Next Saturday's match is at home to Bradford City, and can best be described as a six-pointer of the highest degree.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 31.7%, with nineteen wins in sixty matches in all competitions.


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Truth of the matter is that it is still a jungle in the lower half of League-1.


It's pretty lousy up the top, too - Pompey are bloody useless at the moment! Mad


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Am I right in thinking that if Maccs go down, they are the first promoted side to last only one season?

That's correct


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Today’s fixtures of the bottom nine (on 43pts or fewer) in League One...

Bristol Rovers v. Charlton Athletic
Luton Town v. Gillingham
Oxford United v. Bradford City
Shrewsbury Town v. Wycombe Wanderers
Southend United v. AFC Wimbledon
Sunderland v. Walsall

Rochdale’s visit to Accrington Stanley has been postponed due to a waterlogged pitch.

A huge match at Oxford today, with a draw being no good for either side. And it will make things very interesting if AFCW were to get a win at Southend...


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A final score of...

Oxford United 1-0 Bradford City

...doesn't even begin to tell the full story of this match, with the final minute of stoppage time in this match being described as one of the most astonishing in Oxford United's recent history. Here is a bit of ropy footage to give you an idea (though Bantam Cymraeg might want to look away)...

https://twitter.com/.../1106970211960410114

In the 90+4th minute, Bradford broke away on the left, a cross was put in by Doyle and Bradford midfielder Lewis O'Brien missed a sitter from seven yards out, shooting wide. Oxford keeper Simon Eastwood quickly took a short goal-kick out to Ruffles, who ran forward and hoofed the ball out to Gavin Whyte, whose run and shot was blocked, with the free ball falling for Mackie who blasted it into the roof of the Bradford net. Bedlam erupted all round, with Oxford players running into the crowd.

However, then came the confusion and controversy. Apparently, referee Andy Davies first disallowed the Oxford goal, then awarded Bradford a penalty, to the extent that during the chaos a Bradford player placed the ball on the penalty spot, with suspicion that O'Brien had been fouled by Brannagan. Some shouts were that maybe it should have been a corner. Then shouts that the Oxford penalty area hadn't been cleared of players before Eastwood's quick goal-kick. Then that Ruffles might have touched the ball before it had reached the edge of the Oxford penalty area. This led to four minutes of hold-up, with players from both sides protesting and arguing. Some close by are reporting that the ref at one point asked for VAR, which obviously doesn't exist at L1 level. Several Bradford players could have found themselves booked due to the aggression of their protests, and Mackie (who had already been booked earlier) should have been sent off for jumping into the crowd. On top of that, Curtis Nelson could have been booked for a foul in the lead-up to the Bradford effort. However, no cards were shown. Eventually, the referee reinstated the Oxford goal. The Oxford-bias news media are saying that this was the right decision, but that it was an amazing example of a ref losing all control of what was going on around him.

This win puts Oxford up to nineteenth place, while Bradford drop to bottom. Elsewhere, there were wins for Shrewsbury Town (who scored twice in the final three minutes to snatch a last-gasp victory of their own) and for AFC Wimbledon, meaning that there is now an amazing ten sides separated by just four points between Plymouth in twelfth and Walsall in twenty-first. Five different sides are on forty-four points alone.

There's still a long way to go for Oxford United, but this win and the atmosphere that has surrounded it might just be the turning point for their season.

Unfortunately (and I say this as someone with several Bantam-supporting friends, and as someone who has long had an affection for them), this might end up being the point of no return for Bradford City's season.

Next Saturday, Oxford United are away at play-off chasing Coventry City.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United now stands at 32.8%, with twenty wins in sixty-one matches in all competitions.


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And it will make things very interesting if AFCW were to get a win at Southend...


My Southend supporting boss has failed to acknowledge any football took place at the weekend...


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Then shouts that the Oxford penalty area hadn't been cleared of players before Eastwood's quick goal-kick. Then that Ruffles might have touched the ball before it had reached the edge of the Oxford penalty area.

I have seen this bit reported in several places. It is a complete red herring. There is no requirement for the other players to be outside the penalty area when a goal kick is taken. The relevant Law says,

If an opponent who is in the penalty area when the goal kick is taken, or enters the penalty area before the ball is in play, touches or challenges for the ball before it has touched another player, the goal kick is retaken.

That's it. So no problem. As for the rest of the shambles...... Unsure


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Here is a bit of ropy footage to give you an idea (though Bantam Cymraeg might want to look away)...


Like a motorway car crash, I couldn't help but look. Arse Unsure


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Unfortunately (and I say this as someone with several Bantam-supporting friends, and as someone who has long had an affection for them), this might end up being the point of no return for Bradford City's season.

Yeah, we're down. We keep getting occasional false dawns, but there's far too much for this desperately poor squad to do now to turn the situation around. Last time we were in the bottom division it took us 6 years to get out. I'd settle for an improvement on that (providing we exit the division upwards, which is by no means guaranteed).


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Then shouts that the Oxford penalty area hadn't been cleared of players before Eastwood's quick goal-kick. Then that Ruffles might have touched the ball before it had reached the edge of the Oxford penalty area.

I have seen this bit reported in several places. It is a complete red herring. There is no requirement for the other players to be outside the penalty area when a goal kick is taken. The relevant Law says,

If an opponent who is in the penalty area when the goal kick is taken, or enters the penalty area before the ball is in play, touches or challenges for the ball before it has touched another player, the goal kick is retaken.

That's it. So no problem. As for the rest of the shambles...... Unsure


Which is exactly what the reporters on BBC Radio Oxford stated - that regardless of the number of players from either side still in the penalty area when Eastwood took the quick goal-kick, his goal-kick was not in any way taken wrongly. Ruffles is claiming that he skipped over the ball and did not touch it until it had left the penalty area - if so, then again no problems with the goal-kick at any point.

However, with the sheer amount of action taking place at such a pace in such a short space of time, it's no surprise that there was a huge amount of confusion over what the referee was questioning in the build-up to the goal.

The shambolic element is, unfortunately, the referee and the lack of communication with his assistants. Someone I know who was watching from the Upper South Stand told me that the ref appeared to be dragged along in the wake of the action, rather than stamping his authority. He also told me that in his honest opinion Curtis Nelson should possibly have been booked for his challenge on Doyle in the build-up to the Bradford effort - even just having a word with Nelson after the Bradford miss would certainly have been an opportunity for the ref to take the sting out of things, slow down the emotion of the moment, and give himself a few extra seconds to think about how he could react to several questions that needed answering.

Saying that, can any of us really blame footballers for keeping a match moving that deep into stoppage time? The person who comes out of it with their head held high is Oxford goalie Simon Eastwood - his correctly and quickly-taken goal-kick is what made that goal.

I'll admit that I'm very uneasy about criticising refereeing displays - they do a difficult job with little help from the players, fans, managers or journalists, and personally I believe they deserve to be given some slack on such occasions. And lets not forget the fact that, for all the confusion and lack of communication, it appears that referee Andy Davies did actually make the right final decision.


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Still no getting away from how dire Oxford United are in front of goal. Against Bradford, they recorded a woeful twenty-one shots off-target (no doubt the wind didn't help).

What they could do with is some proper goalscorers, like this lot...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkDfNfaQpqg

...along with Ron 'The Tank' Atkinson, playing for Oxford United in the FA Cup v. Blackburn Rovers in 1964.

And today is Big Ron's 80th birthday! So "Happy Birthday, Tank!"


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Unfortunately (and I say this as someone with several Bantam-supporting friends, and as someone who has long had an affection for them), this might end up being the point of no return for Bradford City's season.

Yeah, we're down. We keep getting occasional false dawns, but there's far too much for this desperately poor squad to do now to turn the situation around. Last time we were in the bottom division it took us 6 years to get out. I'd settle for an improvement on that (providing we exit the division upwards, which is by no means guaranteed).


Chesterfield can tell you all about that. Last season after relegation from League One they were determined to get out of League Two at the first attempt.

To their horror they managed it. Frown

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In all honesty, what with how tight it is at the bottom of L1, the only fixture on this coming Saturday that won't affect the relegation battle is Luton v. Donny. Every other match can and will have a big importance, what with everyone as far up as Plymouth in twelfth within one bad result of a relegation place.

However, for ease, I'll stick to listing just the fixtures of the bottom eight...


Walsall v. Barnsley
AFC Wimbledon v. Gillingham
Bradford City v. Blackpool
Coventry City v. Oxford United
Peterborough United v. Southend United
Rochdale v. Scunthorpe United
Shrewsbury Town v. Portsmouth


All of the bottom four are at home, so you'd expect at least a couple of positive results for them. In fact, excepting maybe Walsall, every one of the bottom eight has a winnable match against beatable/stuttering opponents - even Southend are playing some off-form fodder this week!

And another win for AFCW would certainly make things very interesting...


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even Southend are playing some off-form fodder this week!


Club are providing free coach travel. Seems to have worked as they have sold 700 or so tickets. I guess if the match isn't going their way, having 700 angry Shrimpers might not be ideal...


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All of the bottom four are at home, so you'd expect at least a couple of positive results for them. In fact, excepting maybe Walsall, every one of the bottom eight has a winnable match against beatable/stuttering opponents - even Southend are playing some off-form fodder this week!

Walsall had their chances to win, but failed to take them. Barnsley being fortunate to get the three points with a goal in the 2nd minute of added time.


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Saturday's scores...


Walsall 0-1 Barnsley
AFC Wimbledon 2-4 Gillingham
Bradford City 1-4 Blackpool
Coventry City 0-1 Oxford United
Peterborough United 2-0 Southend United
Rochdale 3-1 Scunthorpe United
Shrewsbury Town 0-2 Portsmouth


Bad results for everyone except Oxford United and Rochdale. Oxford jumped all the way up to the nosebleed height of thirteenth place!

The decent form being strung together by some of those sides that, just six short weeks ago, were wallowing in the relegation spaces - the likes of Gillingham, Oxford, Bristol Rovers and Plymouth - means that all of a sudden there are a whole new swathe of clubs being pulled into the basement scrap. Wycombe Wanderers, for example, have drawn three and lost six in their last nine league matches. Southend United, meanwhile, have drawn four and lost seven of their last eleven league matches.

The ones that seem potentially most in danger are in a cluster just above the relegation spaces, all of whom seem to be in truly dire form. The six sides that presently sit between sixteenth and twenty-first places - that's Wycombe, Accrington, Scunthorpe, Shrewsbury, Southend and Walsall - have managed just four victories between them in the past combined thirty matches.


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Southend United, meanwhile, have drawn four and lost seven of their last eleven league matches.


That was enough for them to pull the trigger this morning. Head of Academy will take charge for the foreseeable. Powell had been using injuries as an excuse for quite some time. Which is little solace for those fans that could be watching a League 2 team next season.


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Powell's win average was 36.36, Robinson's is 33.9
Both figures from wiki.

Michael Duff's is 35.90 - but we are happy with what we have at Cheltenham
Darren Way ended up with 29.6



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This Saturday's fixtures in the L1 log-jam. Thirteen different sides are still very much involved, all the way up to Gillingham in twelfth, but here are the fixtures involving the bottom eight...


Accrington Stanley v. Fleetwood Town
Cahrlton Athletic v. Bradford City
Doncaster Rovers v. Walsall
Gillingham v. Rochdale
Scunthorpe United v. AFC Wimbledon
Southend United v. Shrewsbury Town


Rochdale have picked up a bit of momentum of late, with seven points taken over their last three matches. Should they win their winnable trip to Gillingham, they will most likely benefit whatever way the results go in the two six-pointer at Scunthorpe and Southend.

A difficult looking day for both Bradford and Walsall.


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Three wins on the trot for Oxford United, including Saturday's stoppage-time winner in...

Oxford United 2-1 Wycombe Wanderers

...has sprung them all the way up to the dizzy heights of twelfth position on forty-nine points. A couple more points from their final six fixtures and they can probably consider themselves safe. Good news for Karl, because this has pumped him up to an Oxford United win-ratio of 34.9%, with twenty-two wins in sixty-three matches in all competitions.

However, as is all too often in the world of Oxford United FC, the smell of new roses is soured by the stink of yet another large floater in the OUFC swimming-pool. This time, the late payment of the staff last week - that's not the players, who appear to have been paid on time, but the staff in the ticket office, shops and other admin and manual posts. The shops and ticket office remained closed while the wages of the staff were still outstanding...

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...due-wages-for-staff/

The reason given by OUFC was that the transfer of funds from Asia was held up by compliance checks. This is an excuse that has been used before concerning the late payments made to HMRC twice already this season, not helped by Tigger stressing in a previous BBC Radio Oxford interview that he felt no need to have funds in an account held in the UK.

Fortunately for those people who are probably on minimum wage, the matter has been quickly sorted out. However, it certainly casts a light on the the figures released by football finance expert Kieran Maguire's 'Price Of Football' website this week about the present financial state of Oxford United, and further reported in the Oxford Mail...

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...ord-united-accounts/

...which show a -£2ml loss over the twelve months up to June 2018. This is apparently the sixth time in seven years that Oxford United have recorded a loss, and five of those years have seen losses in excess of one million pounds. The exception was 2016/17 season, when an operating loss of -£1.5ml was outweighed by the transfers received for players Kemar Roofe and Callum O'Dowda. There is also a rather vague line about Oxford United having accumulated losses of over -£14ml 'over the years', and about owing creditors about -£15ml. For a club who do not own any assets other than their own players, these figures don't look too good to me.

Maguire considers the situation at Oxford United to be broadly on a par with what is going on at most League One set-ups (I don't know whether you'd consider that good news or bad, actually!!) However, he does point out a couple of things that are particular to OUFC. Firstly, the club's relationship with its landlord and stadium, with Maguire pointing out that OUFC are still tied to a commitment to pay rent to Firoz Kassam totalling £3.3ml over the coming years (the clause runs until 2025/26, I think).

Secondly, and more telling in the light of the HMRC and late-wages debacles of this season under Tigger's watch, is the line "issues over transferring money from overseas could be a concern." Maguire goes on to say that:

There is nothing really to stop fairly instantaneous transfers of large sums of money, because that happens in global markets all the time, so I'm a little bit cautious with regards to the noises from the Far East in that regard. It does depend on the country. Getting money outside of mainland China can be a problem, but Singapore [where OUFC's/Tigger's finances are based] is not an issue at all, it is very much a global financial centre. I would be concerned about late payments. If you are a wealthy individual then your finances are distributed across the world because you're aware of local problems that can arise."

Of course, there are some people in OX4 who are still questioning whether Tigger is actually the "wealthy individual" he has claimed to be all along...


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...And just to prove what a state OUFC's finances are in, Oxford United were yesterday issued with their FIFTH winding-up petition in little more than a year...

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...om-landlords-firoka/

...with stadium company Firoka serving a winding-up petition over the non-payment of £204,000, which is the quarterly money owed for the next three months. A court hearing is set for 22nd May.

The club has issued a statement which suggests that this non-payment is the result of Firoz cancelling at very late notice a meeting that was due to have taken place between Firoka and OUFC on 26th March. Others are suggesting that it is yet another case of Tigger simply not having the money available in the UK.

With the way that the club has recently been dicking around absolutely everyone who they owe money to - even their own minimum-wage staff were paid late last week - it is no surprise that a bloke as hard-nosed about money as Firoz Kassam has taken this action. Tigger is out of his league by trying to provoke Firoz.


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Still very tight at the bottom of League One. Again, here are tomorrow's fixtures for the bottom eight...

AFC Wimbledon v. Accrington Stanley
Bradford City v. Doncaster Rovers
Fleetwood Town v. Southend United
Rochdale v. Sunderland
Shrewsbury Town v. Scunthorpe United
Walsall v. Oxford United
Wycombe Wanderers v. Portsmouth

Again, all of the bottom four are at home, which must give at least one of them a very good chance of jumping upwards - personally, I reckon AFC Wimbledon will fancy their chances of getting out of the relegation spaces for the first time since mid-October.

Another tough day for Southend on the cards...


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A fourth win on the trot for Oxford United...

Walsall 1-3 Oxford United

...means that Oxford are almost certainly safe on the pitch at least (presuming that they can actually pay their bills on time and not be handed a points deduction. Now that could make things interesting!) Not good for Walsall, however, and manager Dean Keates paid the price within an hour of the final whistle, with Walsall now in the relegation spaces.

The other scores from yesterday were...

AFC Wimbledon 1-1 Accrington Stanley
Bradford City 0-1 Doncaster Rovers
Fleetwood Town 2-2 Southend United
Rochdale 1-2 Sunderland
Shrewsbury Town 1-1 Scunthorpe United
Wycombe Wanderers 2-3 Portsmouth

Some very close scores, showing quite how hard some of those at the bottom are fighting. Rochdale went down only in the 89th minute against Sunderland and were winning for a decent chunk of the match. And both Scunthorpe and Southend were winning until the 84th minute in their respective matches before each gaining a point. AFC Wimbledon drew at home to Accrington, meaning they are still in the bottom four but now only by goal difference.


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Two matches tonight in the bottom eight of League One...

Accrington Stanley v. Rochdale
Wycombe Wanderers v. Charlton Athletic


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Tuesday's scores at the foot of League One...

Accrington Stanley 0-1 Rochdale
Wycombe Wanderers 0-1 Charlton Athletic

...which saw Rochdale continue their fine form of late, as they jumped out of the relegation places. Since manager Brian Barry-Murphy took over at Spotland at the start of March, Rochdale have won three, drawn two and lost just one (and that a late defeat to Sunderland) of their six league matches.

Although Oxford United have just about made themselves safe, it is still tight for the rest at the bottom. Eleven teams are still separated by just six points, stretching from Walsall in twenty-third place to Gillingham in thirteenth. Bradford City may well now be doomed, but there is also some bad form being shown by Walsall, Accrington Stanley (who both play eachother tomorrow), Wycombe Wanderers, Southend United (who both play eachother tomorrow), and increasingly Bristol Rovers who are slipping downwards again.

Again, here are tomorrow's matches for the sides in the bottom eight...

Accrington Stanley v. Walsall
Bristol Rovers v. Bradford City
Oxford United v. AFC Wimbledon
Portsmouth v. Rochdale
Scunthorpe United v. Burton Albion
Southend United v. Wycombe Wanders


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Safe on the pitch maybe, but the bad news continues in the OUFC accounts department...

https://twitter.com/.../1116620776935809024

...with Kieran Maguire's 'Price Of Football' website highlighting that Oxford United FC's resubmitted accounts for the year ending 30th June 2018 shows an operating loss of £4.2million.

A poster called Navegante on the Oxford fans' forum points out that, when compared to the previous fiscal year, OUFC's most recent accounts show:

*Revenue down -£1.4million
*Cost of sales (including player wages?) up +£0.8million
*Administration costs up +£0.5million
*Interest payments up +£140k - debt is increasing and seems not to be 'soft'.

Oxford United are presently making pre-tax losses of £39,000 a week.

News was released this week by OUFC that they are to freeze season-ticket prices for the 2019~20 season, and are actually reducing some prices for the East Stand, a move that might go some way to pacifying those on the receiving end of the club's lousy treatment of the Ultras earlier this season. Also, the good on-pitch form of late might well help convince some fans to renew their season tickets, helping to shore up the club's finances during the summer close-season.

However, it needs to be remembered that OUFC have actually kept a lid on losses in the past by making money in the transfer market - sales of Johnson, Lundstram, Roofe and O'Dowda soften those figures a little for the past couple of years - but that this past season Karl Robinson has not sold a single player outwards (yet), meaning that the June 2019 figures could well be even worse. And all the while, due to the Kassam stranglehold, the club is in a position that makes it very difficult to generate any further match-day revenue. And Tigger has already told Karl that next season's budget will be smaller that this season's.

Well done to Karl for beginning to turn things around on the pitch (and upping his win ratio up to 35.9%), but the big problems at OUFC are still definitely at the boardroom level...


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This afternoon's scores...

Accrington Stanley 2-1 Walsall
Bristol Rovers 3-2 Bradford City
Oxford United 0-0 AFC Wimbledon
Portsmouth 4-0 Rochdale
Scunthorpe United 0-3 Burton Albion
Southend United 0-2 Wycombe Wanderers

Bradford lost their sixth match on the trot, and could go down on Friday if results go against them. Walsall also recorded their sixth successive defeat and are now second-from -bottom. Southend lost again and are third-bottom, having now gone fourteen matches without a win.

Scunthorpe also look vulnerable following a spanking at home to Burton, and have now won just one of their last ten.

However, AFC Wimbledon continue to make some progress despite still being in the relegation places, picking up a point at Oxford United - they've now lost just one of their past eight matches.


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Quite fortunate that Wimbledon were at Oxford this afternoon or the club in the title thread wouldn't even have got a mention!! . This lot could be challenging at the other end next season. Sly


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With twelve points still to play for, it is still very tight at the bottom of League One with eleven sides still below the fifty-point mark. However, I'll give the benefit of the doubt to Bristol Rovers and Gillingham for the moment and say that they're probably close enough to safety, (though have included Accrington due to their particularly difficult run-in). My apologies to Bantam Cymraeg, but I can't see Bradford escaping the drop however much I'd love them to. So here are the remaining fixtures for the eight sides most likely to be involved in the relegation battle until the final day...


Walsall -
19/4 ... Southend United (H)
22/4 ... Wycombe Wanderers (a)
27/4 ... Peterborough United (H)
4/5 .... Shrewsbury Town (a)

Southend United -
19/4 ... Walsall (a)
22/4 ... Burton Albion (H)
27/4 ... Rochdale (a)
4/5 .... Sunderland (H)

AFC Wimbledon -
19/4 ... Bristol Rovers (H)
23/4 ... Luton Town (a)
27/4 ... Wycombe Wanderers (H)
4/5 .... Bradford City (a)

Rochdale -
19/4 ... Wycombe Wanderers (H)
22/4 ... Bristol Rovers (a)
27/4 ... Southend United (H)
4/5 .... Charlton Athletic (a)

Scunthorpe United -
19/4 ... Blackpool (H)
22/4 ... Charlton Athletic (a)
27/4 ... Bradford City (H)
4/5 .... Plymouth Argyle (a)

Plymouth Argyle -
19/4 ... Gillingham (a)
22/4 ... Barnsley (H)
27/4 ... Accrington Stanley (a)
4/5 .... Scunthorpe United (H)

Wycombe Wanderers -
19/4 ... Rochdale (a)
22/4 ... Walsall (H)
27/4 ... AFC Wimbledon (a)
4/5 .... Fleetwood Town (H)

Accrington Stanley -
20/4 ... Luton Town (H)
23/4 ... Doncaster Rovers (a)
27/4 ... Plymouth Argyle (H)
4/5 .... Portsmouth (a)


There are an amazing number of six-pointers still to be played over the next few weeks, which means that some of these clubs stand a good chance of picking up a decent tally - for example, I can see Rochdale's form continuing for a while yet (though they'll need to make themselves safe before that last-day trip to Charlton).

I'm surprised that Plymouth have slipped back into this mess again, after putting together some good form to get out of it in the first place. However, it's Southend and Scunthorpe I'd worry for most. Southend in particular look in a desperate position - no win in fourteen matches, and a run-in that has two away trips to fellow strugglers, a home match to an in-form Burton, and Sunderland on the final day.


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Quite fortunate that Wimbledon were at Oxford this afternoon or the club in the title thread wouldn't even have got a mention!! . This lot could be challenging at the other end next season. Sly


The post-match phone-in on BBC Radio Barm-Cake seemed to consist of Oxford fans saying how bad AFCW were - "worst side we've played this season" was one comment, with much similar on the OUFC forum. Which prompts the question of why Oxford only managed a 0-0? Inspector Morse would probably come to the obvious conclusion! Tongue

Some of this uncharitableness from the Oxford fans probably stems from the fact that the 1300 AFCW fans in attendance spent the entire match singing derogatory songs at ex-MKFranchise manager Karl Robinson (just as anyone would!). So no love lost there then!

As for next season... Still some way to go, but I reckon Pompey and Sunderland might still both be in L1 next season (personally, I think Charlton will be unbeatable in the play-offs), along with a rejuvenated Ipswich and Bolton, plus Lincoln and some other very good teams coming up. So it won't be any easier for Oxford next season. And remember, they'll STILL have Karl as their manager! Laugh


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Kind of hoping that ex gaffer of the original and best Dons stays at Oxford for no other reason than this great thread would die a death. Laugh


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My apologies to Bantam Cymraeg, but I can't see Bradford escaping the drop however much I'd love them to.

No apology necessary - we're down, and have been for a while Unsure


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Today’s relegation matches in League One, again highlighting the bottom eight...

AFC Wimbledon v. Bristol Rovers
Coventry City v. Bradford City
Gillingham v. Plymouth Argyle
Rochdale v. Wycombe Wanderers
Scunthorpe United v. Blackpool
Walsall v. Southend United

The match at the Bescot Stadium has the look of horribly desperate scrap about it, with both sides in woeful form.

I’m gonna guess that Rochdale will be going into their six-pointer with much more confidence about them.

And AFCW have another chance to jump out of the relegation places.


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This afternoon’s scores...

AFC Wimbledon 1-1 Bristol Rovers
Coventry City 2-0 Bradford City
Gillingham 3-1 Plymouth Argyle
Rochdale 1-0 Wycombe Wanderers
Scunthorpe United 0-0 Blackpool
Walsall 1-1 Southend United

If my mathematics is correct, I’m sorry to say that I think Bradford City have reached the end of the road. A ten-point gap to twentieth place means that they’ve been relegated to League Two.

I had a confident feeling that Rochdale would win today. It’s far from over yet, but well done to them for what they’ve achieved over the past few weeks - a fine example to all the others down there of what you can do with your back against the wall. AFCW also extended their fine run with a draw, but they really need to get above the dotted line with a win as soon as they can - their match at home to Wycombe next Saturday will now be hugely important.

However, no signs of either Walsall or Southend sorting out their mess...


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Meanwhile, one division lower
All the bottom three lost again. I think the fans of all three clubs believe that two of them will go down - and have thought this for some time
With today's results, all but one other club (Cambridge) are mathematically safe of avoiding the drop and I am sure that Cambridge will soon be declared safe as well.
Beyond that, I do not expect a final decision on the placings until the final day
The final three games for everyone are Monday, Saturday and Saturday May 4
Notts County (37 points, GD -35). Crawley (a), Grimsby (h), Swindon (a)
Yeovil Town (37 points, GD -25). Colchester (h), Northampton (a), Carlisle (h)
Macclesfield Town (39 points, GD -27). Newport (h), Port Vale (a), Cambridge (h)

With the most difficult fixture list of the trio, I expect County to drop and I think the most likely is no change in the league positions



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I went to Yeovil against Crawley. If thats the best Yeovil can do, unfortunately their stay in the EFL is coming to an end.


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If Notts County are relegated, who becomes the oldest Football (including Premier) League club?



Northwood, Threave Rovers, Arsenal, Rangers (the real ones, NOT qpr),Watford, Rochdale, queen of the south and a few others.


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If Notts County are relegated, who becomes the oldest Football (including Premier) League club?


That would be Nottingham Forest



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So name changes bar Stoke?



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Stoke folded and reformed in 1908 - which I would say gives the (potential) title to Forest



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Odd County Fact. They were relegated in both 1992 and 2004

In 1992, they dropped from the First Division to the First Division (tier 1 to tier 2)
In 2004, they dropped from the Second Division to the Second Division (tier 3 to tier 4)



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There are only two teams that have had continued and uninterrupted membership of the football league since its inception in 1888; Preston North End and Nott’s County.

All other original teams have resigned to play in the Premier League, save for Accrington.

Nott’s County did actually resign from the football league in 1992 but that was rescinded when they finished in the bottom three of the old, old First Division.

There is still an outside chance both remaining teams leave the football league this year - in opposite directions.


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Some very very angry Argyle fans at the moment. Can’t get a win or sniff of a win for toffee.

Don’t be surprised if they go down on their current form. Not helped by Derek Adams being on a long contract for some bizarre reason.

Equally under Adams, Argyle have had two dreadful starts to the last two campaigns. Last year they turned it around and it was looking good this year after November but after throwing a 2 goal lead at Blackpool that appears to be it from them.


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Some very very angry Argyle fans at the moment. Can’t get a win or sniff of a win for toffee.


Difficult looking match today for Argyle - at home to second-placed Barnsley. Saying that, it doesn’t look like anyone has an easy match today, though Rochdale will probably fancy their chances with the form they’re presently showing.

The six-pointer at Adams Park has the smell of doom about it...

Southend United v. Burton Albion
Bradford City v. Fleetwood Town
Bristol Rovers v. Rochdale
Charlton Athletic v. Scunthorpe United
Plymouth Argyle v. Barnsley
Wycombe Wanderers v. Walsall


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Some very very angry Argyle fans at the moment. Can’t get a win or sniff of a win for toffee.


Difficult looking match today for Argyle - at home to second-placed Barnsley.


Listened to the second half Radio Sheffield commentary from Plymouth today. Sounded like a very painful afternoon for the home support.

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If the mood was bad before, my Arygle friends are beyond angry now. They can’t see how a team can go from being 12th and nearly safe, to 20th and not able to get a win. It’s a team with no passion and fight by all accounts, even worse than the team which was fighting relegation out of the league a few years ago.

It makes you wonder if they don’t want/believe in Derek Adams anymore.

The last game of the season is a humdinger v Scunthorpe ( who lost 4-0 at Charlton).


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If the mood was bad before, my Arygle friends are beyond angry now. They can’t see how a team can go from being 12th and nearly safe, to 20th and not able to get a win. It’s a team with no passion and fight by all accounts, even worse than the team which was fighting relegation out of the league a few years ago.

It makes you wonder if they don’t want/believe in Derek Adams anymore.

The last game of the season is a humdinger v Scunthorpe ( who lost 4-0 at Charlton).


The belief in Derek Adams went in October/November 2018 for the vast majority of Argyle fans. The club have only themselves to blame for this by giving him a 5 year contract at the end of last season. With the new grandstand being built it's highly likely that we're going to be stuck with him for the foreseeable future

Unfortunately I was there yesterday to witness first hand the most inept display I can remember for quite a while. It certainly is a team with no passion & fight. Can't see where the next point is coming from & League 2 is certainly staring us in the face Frown



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I see things haven't improved since we spoke at the Almondsbury match! My Southend supporting manager seems more relaxed this morning. Although he has written off the Sunderland match last game of the season so hoping they beat Rochdale on Saturday.


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Not helped by Adams saying a player was injured then the same player going on Twitter denying it and the local press picking up on it.

If Coughlin goes this summer I can’t see how Argyle can recover from that- he’s been the best player over the last couple of seasons, but a relegation ain’t good for the CV


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Monday's results...

Southend United 3-2 Burton Albion
Bradford City 1-1 Gillingham
Bristol Rovers 0-1 Rochdale
Charlton Athletic 4-0 Scunthorpe United
Plymouth Argyle 0-3 Barnsley
Wycombe Wanderers 1-0 Walsall

...and on Tuesday...

Luton Town 2-2 AFC Wimbledon

I can't help be feel that Rochdale deserve a lot of praise for getting to the magical fifty-one points mark in the manner that they have - in Brian Barry-Murphy's nine matches in charge, they've won five, drawn two and lost just two (those two against Pompey and Sunderland). That's a heroic turn-around.

AFCW are still in the relegation places, but have now lost just two of their last thirteen league matches. Their final two matches are against Wycombe and Bradford.

Tomorrow's fixtures for the bottom eight are...

Accrington Stanley v. Plymouth Argyle
AFC Wimbledon v. Wycombe Wanderers
Rochdale v. Southend United
Scunthorpe United v. Bradford City
Walsall v. Peterborough United

...and on Sunday...

Coventry City v. Shrewsbury Town


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Today's results...

Accrington Stanley 5-1 Plymouth Argyle
AFC Wimbledon 2-1 Wycombe Wanderers
Rochdale 1-0 Southend United
Scunthorpe United 2-3 Bradford City
Walsall 3-0 Peterborough United

...leaving five sides fighting to avoid the three relegation spaces still to be filled.

Plymouth's fifth consecutive defeat (and a proper thrashing at that - even the one they scored was a stoppage-time own goal) puts them into the relegation spaces, along with an equally desperate Scunthorpe who lost at home to already-relegated Bradford, and Walsall who live to fight another day after beating Peterborough.

AFCW's good form of late finally moves them out of the spaces with a win against Wycombe, though they are not yet quite safe. Meanwhile, yet another win for Rochdale puts them in midtable! Shrewsbury are now safe without even playing.

Those of a nervous disposition should probably avoid Home Park next weekend. It's Plymouth Argyle v. Scunthorpe United...


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Argyle have had it.

Couple of friends went to up to Accrington. When I asked how it was all I got back was two words

‘Swear word’ Gutless

Derek Adams refused to talk afterwards. And the team just walked off the pitch, nothing for the 800+ fans who drove to Lancashire. Spineless


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I went to Yeovil against Crawley. If thats the best Yeovil can do, unfortunately their stay in the EFL is coming to an end.


As predicted by many, Yeovil Town's sixteen year tenure in the ninety-two came to an end on Saturday afternoon with a 2-2 draw away at Northampton. I was in the away end the day they won 6-0 away at joint-top Newport County, on 15th September - since that match, Yeovil have won just five of thirty-nine league matches, so this relegation isn't really a surprise.

After the Cobblers match, YTFC issued the sort of statement you'd expect - about how sorry they are, how they feel they've let down the supporters, about what they owe the fans, blah blah blah. Unfortunately, it turns out that later that Saturday night...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48092370

...at least seven of the players and back-room staff were snapped gettin'-on-down on the dancefloor of Mambo's in Taunton, with smiles and thumbs-up.

I appreciate that it's very easy for fans to get emotional and demand unrealistic sackcloth-and-ashes penance from footballers whenever they lose - these are blokes in their twenties, some on loan from other clubs, who are just as likely to go out on the bevvies after a bad day at work as the rest of us. However, regardless of the fact that surely only idiots would dream of going to a club called Mambo's in Taunton, I can't help but question the intelligence of these seven in thinking that this was even remotely a good idea on a day like that. Jeez!

Notts County's players might want to take note: if they end up joining Yeovil in relegation this coming Saturday, can you imagine the quite justifiable outrage of County fans in the same position? A bunch of over-privileged jack-the-lads bringing to an end County's 131-year Football League tenure (along with a hell of a lot more history on top of that, too) through their own incompetence, then 'celebrating' with drunken debauchery down Hooters while some fans are still making their way home?

It does remind me that the thing I most dislike about football is footballers...


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And while we're at it, lets guess how many of this lot will be on the pull down Jesters on Union Street this coming Saturday night, regardless of the final score on the pitch?...


Bradford City v. AFC Wimbledon

Plymouth Argyle v. Scunthorpe United

Shrewsbury Town v. Walsall

Southend United v. Sunderland


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No one goes Jesters anymore mate! Unless it’s grab a grannie night midweek. Union Street is as popular now as Fort William are successful in the Highland League!

They’ll more likely to be found in The Mousetrap on North Hill or on the Barby.


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Scores from the last day of the season...


Bradford City 0-0 AFC Wimbledon

Plymouth Argyle 3-2 Scunthorpe United

Shrewsbury Town 0-0 Walsall

Southend United 2-1 Sunderland


Fifty points proved the magic mark for some, but not for others...

Plymouth Argyle are relegated on 50pts, despite winning today. It was only their second league victory in their past twelve league matches.

Scunthorpe United are relegated.

Walsall are relegated.

AFCWimbledon also finished on 50pts, but stay up with a goal difference of just three superior to Plymouth's.

Southend beat Sunderland with an eighty-seventh minute winner, to win only their second victory in their past eighteen league matches. Southend also finished on fifty points but with a goal difference eleven better than Plymouth's.

Luton Town have won the League One championship.

Barnsley are also promoted.

The League One play-offs will see Charlton Athletic play Doncaster Rovers and Portsmouth play Sunderland.

Oxford United finished in twelfth position with fifteen wins, fifteen draws and sixteen defeats.

Karl Robinson's win ratio at Oxford United is 36.2%, with twenty-five victories in sixty-nine matches in all competitions.

Oxford United are due to face the reading of a winding-up petition on 22nd May.


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Scores from the last day of the season...

Plymouth Argyle 3-2 Scunthorpe United

Plymouth Argyle are relegated on 50pts, despite winning today. It was only their second league victory in their past twelve league matches.

AFCWimbledon also finished on 50pts, but stay up with a goal difference of just three superior to Plymouth's.


Turns out Plymouth's 1-5 defeat at Accrington last Saturday fatally damaged their goal difference.

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Southend beat Sunderland with an eighty-seventh minute winner, to win only their second victory in their past eighteen league matches. Southend also finished on fifty points but with a goal difference eleven better than Plymouth's.

Another team to get a late goal was Newport County. An 86th minute equaliser at Morecambe took them into the play-offs ahead of Colchester, who won 3-0 away to champions Lincoln. For a while there was a possibility of five clubs finishing on 70 points.