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Isaac
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How long have floodlights been a requirement for the FA Vase? For instance I was suprised to learn that Farleigh Rovers from the CC league (who don't have floodlights) were in the FA Vase years ago and that teams from the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man also used to participate. As a fairly recent convert to the non league scene I would be quite interested to know a bit more about the history of this fascinating competition which I understand replaced the Amateur Cup


coupwotcoup
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I think it has been around ten years since floodlights were necessary to enter all the FA Comps. When the Vase first began it was almost a case of jumpers for goalposts being adequate. And it was that long ago you had teams in the same division playing in the Trophy and the Vase. Now of course everything is standardised - more or less.



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SuperKev!
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It was quite a few years ago now. If I recall correctly, Steve Clark, the FA Competitions Secretary, was also Secretary of Netherne FC at the time and had to kick himself out of the competition!


coupwotcoup
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I remember talking to Clarky about that at the time!



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1996/97 was that the last season ?.


John Treleven
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1997-98 was the last season for First Tower United (Jersey) who do not have lights (the ground is too close to the airport) and who declined to play
their Vase matches at Springfield (in St. Helier)


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1997-98 was the last season for First Tower United (Jersey) who do not have lights (the ground is too close to the airport) and who declined to play
their Vase matches at Springfield (in St. Helier)



Were "offshore" teams not given a dispensation for a year or two, looking at the results from the Vase the last mainland teams without lights appear to be 96/7.

As an aside I went to First Tower in 96/7 and they played on their own ground, but they had Springfield (?) as a back-up in case their own ground was unfit.


John Treleven
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Possibly that was the case, I was not here permanently then.

Springfield was a back up then but they decided not to use it as a "home" for the Vase when La Hague was no longer "allowed"


coupwotcoup
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I know a few Scottish sides appeared in the Vase in its formative years, but didn't a team from the Isle of Man compete at some stage too? Black Douglas United? Cool



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Douglas High School Old Boys. Bit of a mouthful but then, Old Boys are well used to that.Shocked


coupwotcoup
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Cool



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BillShep
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Just found this thread...
I was looking at some archived NWCFL results and noticed that Douglas High School Old Boys played against Salford City in October 1992. Then I looked on FCHD and saw that they played 5 games in 1989-90 which included a tie against St.Dominics which took 3 replays to resolve. 2-2, 4-4, 5-5 then finally losing 4-1.
First Tower United from Jersey which was Jack Walkers other club also played in the FA Vase from 1978-79 where they eventually got beaten by St.Martins from Guernsey.
I think I'll have a longer look at this and see what I can come up with...



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John Treleven
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First Tower United played until Vase rules insisted on a club having floodlights. They could not have them at St. Georges School as it is located near the airport and they decided against moving their matches to Springfield.


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The FA Vase records of First Tower United, Vale Recreation, St. Martins and Douglas High School Old Boys are all to be found on http://www.fchd.info
I cannot remember if this is the full set of Channel Island and Manx teams that have participated, prior to Guernsey FC joining the pyramid

Richard (of this parish) has also included the Northern Irish and Scottish entries in the FA Cup



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