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Three Sides
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Jun 28, 2009, 8:54 AM

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Help is requested for postcode information to help with Maps and Mileage charts for Step 7 -Please

We simply need to know:
· The full name of the league
· The correct name for the division
· List of teams (confirmed 2009/10 line ups only, please)
· Postcode

The list can be in most formats, if using word or excel attachments; the team/postcode in two columns would be helpful, but not essential.

All help welcome. Maps/Charts can then be created for the new site.

VP
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Jun 28, 2009, 11:57 AM

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Re: [Three Sides] Step 7 Postcode information [In reply to]	Can't Post or Reply Privately

This could be some project as a lot of step 7 clubs don't actually have a postcode allocated to them. There are quite a few at higher levels as well.
It's an old chestnut but postcodes are for the sorting of mail. They're not necessarily a geographical indicator. As a postie I often have to deal with the fallout of people hopelessly lost as they've used a satnav rather than a map and they're either in completely the wrong place or they've hit a dead end the satnav didn't know about but I digress.....
I can access the Postcode Address File at work during my meal break so can help with the nearest postcodes to some of the fields step 7 teams play in although for some of them it's hard enough trying to find their home ground.
I've had a look at the Anglian Combination's site which has venues listed but hardly any postcodes. That'll be one of the easier ones. Leagues that use Mitoo or similar sites may take a bit longer.
I'll crack on with creating a list of the teams. I'm off work for a week so it'll give me something to do in my spare time. The postcodes can then be added when I get the time.
I can email the finished leagues as and when I do them but, of course, if someone else wants to do some of the leagues then, by all means, get on with it.
Send me a PM if you want to discuss this furthur.

Veteran
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Jun 28, 2009, 1:15 PM

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Re: [VP] Step 7 Postcode information [In reply to]	Can't Post or Reply Privately

Having tried to find some grounds using just the postcode I know exactly what you mean. Trouble is, particularly with new grounds, they are often located on the edge of a town or village and the (nearest) postcode quoted can often be houses half a mile away along a different road.

I know some roads can be several miles long but the road name is often of far more use, although this can also fool the SatNav - ask Yorkie Exile who thought he had got to Chipping Sodbury's ground when he was at the start of the correct road but about 4 miles away !

Maybe for a large scale map postcodes would be accurate enough, though.

If I was organised, I'd be Dangerous.

Mark Hardy
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Jun 28, 2009, 1:57 PM

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Re: [Veteran] Step 7 Postcode information [In reply to]	Can't Post or Reply Privately

Don't worry about the following.

SWPeninsula League Div 1 East & West
Spartan South Midlands Div 3
Sussex County Div 3
Dorset Premier

I have doen all these already and forwarded them onto to Three Sides

Three Sides
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Jun 28, 2009, 2:33 PM

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Re: [Mark Hardy] Step 7 Postcode information [In reply to]	Can't Post or Reply Privately

Many thanks.

The nearest postcode (in my opinion) is adequate. The dot on microsoft maps is suitably indicative, given the scale of the maps used.

Thanks for the help so far.

Still needed:

Anglian Combination Bedfordshire Brighton, Hove & District Cambridgeshire County Central Midlands Cheshire Association Crawley & District East Berkshire East Sussex Essex & Suffolk Border Gloucestershire County Hampshire Kent County Leicestershire Senior Liverpool County Premier Manchester Middlesex County Midland Combination Mid-Sussex North Berks Northampton Town Northamptonshire Combination Northern Alliance Oxfordshire Senior Peterborough & District Reading Somerset County Staffordshire County Senior Suffolk & Ipswich Sussex County Wearside West Cheshire West Lancashire West Midlands (Regional) West Sussex Wiltshire Worthing & District

Just a short list then LOL!!!

roy142857
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Jun 28, 2009, 4:27 PM

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Done Kent County and Essex Olympian

I have all bar Shirley Town from Midland Combination Div 1, but last years. There's a notice on the league website saying that they'll provide ground details after the deadline for clubs to provide 09/10 info (30 Jun).

coops
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Jun 28, 2009, 4:58 PM

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I have all bar Shirley Town from Midland Combination Div 1, but last years. There's a notice on the league website saying that they'll provide ground details after the deadline for clubs to provide 09/10 info (30 Jun).

I have Shirley Town as B90 1PW

http://www.coops1989.blogspot.com

VP
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Jun 28, 2009, 5:00 PM

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Re: [Three Sides] Step 7 Postcode information [In reply to]	Can't Post or Reply Privately

Do you want the leagues at step 7 that haven't got official status yet as well? Hamsphire 2004 and Surrey Elite are the only two I know of but there may be more.

Anglian Combination nearly finished btw so no-one bother with that. You can check 15 postcodes a day on the public Royal Mail site but I need to save a few for my eBay packages!

blackdouglas
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Jun 28, 2009, 6:51 PM

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I have exactly what you need and it's a lot more accurate than Postcodes. For the last 2 years I've been collating clubs longitude and latitude for use in my TomTom "points of interest" file. I'm up to 1800+ clubs, a good way through Step 8 & just waiting for a few Step 7 leagues to confirm their constitutions to complete for this season.

Northwood, Threave Rovers, Queen of the South, Rochdale, Arsenal, Watford, Rangers (the real ones, NOT qpr), New England Revolution, and a few others.

busky
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Jun 28, 2009, 8:59 PM

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Have just pm'd details of SIL to you Three Sides

One day it will all come good

vienna1964
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Jun 28, 2009, 10:43 PM

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I'm going to say 'yes' to this, as I hope that we'll be covering at least one division of each of the non-Step leagues equivalent to those at Steps 7 & 8 this season - and not just those which are expecting to get a Step 7 (a,b,c,d) grading for 2010-11.

I APOLOGISE UNRESERVEDLY TO EACH AND EVERY PERSON ON THIS FORUM WHO HAS FELT LET-DOWN BY MY INIMICABLE AND DEPLORABLE BEHAVIOUR OF OCTOBER 28th. 2009. ESPECIALLY TO BRIAN, WHO IS A MARVELLOUS GENTLEMAN AND IS THE LAST PERSON HERE WHO SHOULD HAVE TO PUT UP WITH SUCH UNDESERVED PERSONAL CHARACTER-ASSASSINATION. LET IT BE KNOWN THAT A PRIVATE PERSONAL APOLOGY WAS SENT, BUT WAS SEEN INSUFFICIENT. FAIR ENOUGH.

UKPunk
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Jun 28, 2009, 10:44 PM

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Anglian Combination Bedfordshire Brighton, Hove & District Cambridgeshire County Central Midlands Cheshire Association Crawley & District East Berkshire East Sussex Essex & Suffolk Border Gloucestershire County Hampshire Kent County Leicestershire Senior Liverpool County Premier Manchester Middlesex County Midland Combination Mid-Sussex North Berks Northampton Town Northamptonshire Combination Northern Alliance Oxfordshire Senior Peterborough & District Reading Somerset County Staffordshire County Senior Suffolk & Ipswich Sussex County Wearside West Cheshire West Lancashire West Midlands (Regional) West Sussex Wiltshire Worthing & District

Just a short list then LOL!!!

I'm still waiting for the constitution of the highlighted league Three Sides. As soon as I have it I'll let you know the postcodes as I have most of last season's already. I will say though that I found some of them inaccurate so I used the postcode of the nearest buildings based on Google Earth maps.

Matches: 419 (0)
Grounds: 116 (0)

Last Match: Saturday 29th May
Essex Olympian League Senior Division 1
Buckhurst Hill 1 M&B Club 2

Next Match: Sat 7th August
Eastern Counties League Premier Division
Mildenhall Town v Stanway Rovers

boris
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Jun 28, 2009, 10:55 PM

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I have (or can get relatively easily) all the postcodes for the Oxfordshire Senior League sides. The problem is that many of them are for contact info, and so probably relate to the clubs' secretaries addresses rather than the addresses of the grounds that they play at. My assumption is that this info probably isn't what you're after. If it is, then I'll happily supply it, otherwise I can try to gather postcodes of the grounds but, as others have said, this might not necessarily be the best way to get directions.

vienna1964
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Jun 28, 2009, 11:03 PM

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Just gotta say I think lat/long is a much better way of positioning pins accurately, but are we able to utilise this ?

UKPunk
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Jun 28, 2009, 11:07 PM

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Even if we are, how would I utilise this in Google Earth Angus? Sorry to be so thick but I really am not PC savvy mate. Unsure

Three Sides
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Jun 29, 2009, 6:19 AM

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I have exactly what you need and it's a lot more accurate than Postcodes. For the last 2 years I've been collating clubs longitude and latitude for use in my TomTom "points of interest" file. I'm up to 1800+ clubs, a good way through Step 8 & just waiting for a few Step 7 leagues to confirm their constitutions to complete for this season.

This is an amazing data base! FANTASTIC WORK!!!

The map & mileage charting software works with latitude and longitude, so should be all we need.

I will liase with Mark Hardy about producing the step 7 maps (to the specified 780 pixel width) and charts from this database over the next few days.

blackdouglas
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Jun 29, 2009, 7:25 AM

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Glad you like it.

Can I ask what software your usng for the mileage charts??

Northwood, Threave Rovers, Queen of the South, Rochdale, Arsenal, Watford, Rangers (the real ones, NOT qpr), New England Revolution, and a few others.

Three Sides
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Jun 29, 2009, 8:39 AM

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Wishing to repeat myself - The information really is Excellent, thanks again!

I use Microsoft Autoroute for the Maps and Microsoft Mappoint with Milecharter add-on for the Mileage & Time charts.

I have added all your confirmed Step 7 line ups to one map: http://www.mikeavery.co.uk/Step%207.htm The links on the left had side will (when completed) give 'close-ups' of individual divisions and mileage charts (Until new site is ready to be populated with the maps). Currently just Hertfordshire PD & Midland Comb D1 completed as test.

Mike

acmold
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Jun 29, 2009, 10:53 AM

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James Wright's Cherry Red Annual for 2009 has post codes for many of those league, I know it will be a bit out of date but will give 80% / 90%.

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Three Sides
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Jul 3, 2009, 8:46 AM

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Maps & Mileage Charts for several Step 7 divisions/grounds now completed.

I would appreciate any help with the last few: Brighton Hove & District PD, Crawley & District PD, East Berkshire PD, East Sussex PD, Essex & Suffolk Border PD, Gloucestershire County, Liverpool PD, North Berks D1, Northampton Town PD, Oxfordshire PD, Peterborough PD, West Midlands Regional D1, West Riding County, West Sussex PD, West Yorkshire PD & Worthing PD.

I simply need:

Confirmed Line up 2009-10
Postcode or ground address or Lat/Long co-ordinates.

See work in progress at: http://www.mikeavery.co.uk/Step%207.htm
With thanks to the many contributors, so far!!!!

(This post was edited by Three Sides on Jul 3, 2009, 8:47 AM)

UKPunk
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Jul 3, 2009, 8:52 AM

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Mike, as soon as there is any news with regard to the Essex & Suffolk Border League I'll post the details. If last season is anything to go by we won't get any news until maybe the last week in July so we've got a while to wait yet I'm afraid.

blackdouglas
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Jul 3, 2009, 11:16 AM

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Here's what else I've picked up so far that you need. I'm not that keen on registering for yellow jersey for the sussex ones cos they look too much like park football for my interest.

Northwood, Threave Rovers, Queen of the South, Rochdale, Arsenal, Watford, Rangers (the real ones, NOT qpr), New England Revolution, and a few others.

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Sarumio
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Jul 3, 2009, 1:48 PM

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Mike, the EOL constitution is last season's - You need to take out M&B Club (demoted) and put in Rayleigh Town and Westhamians (both promoted).

Sarumio
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Jul 3, 2009, 2:03 PM

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Other corrections:

Middlesex - Singh Sabha are the missing 16th club in the Premier Division.
Manch - Old Alts are actually properly called Old Altrinchamians
Dorset - Sturminster Newton are missing their United suffix
Staffs - Holt JCB won their appeal and are in the Premier - it runs with 18. Also it isn't Norton United Reserves as far as I am aware - its just Norton.

You also have last years West Lancashire League lineup. I don't think the new constitution has been announced yet for this league.

Three Sides
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Jul 3, 2009, 3:24 PM

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Mike, the EOL constitution is last season's - You need to take out M&B Club (demoted) and put in Rayleigh Town and Westhamians (both promoted).

Thanks for the info.

Essex Olympian Map & Charts now ammended with above.

More updates later today.

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