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alderholt saint
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Apr 26, 2012, 8:55 PM

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I am in Kiev on sat 28th July this year and was hoping to see a football game.I cannot find out when the domestic season starts because of the euros.I have found out that Kiev has 4 teams playing in the city but does anyone else know about any semi pro teams if one of the big 4 are not playing that sat.Has anyone ever been to Kiev to watch football , any help would be appreciated

brb
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Apr 26, 2012, 9:21 PM

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ukrainian season starts very early, usually 1st or 2nd weekend in july. so i think at the end of july you could see a match in kiev

D A
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Apr 26, 2012, 9:41 PM

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You could look at the thread above yours (ATMIT) to see the current seasons fixtures and see when they started.
The sticky.
Could well start a few weeks later , but sure you will catch a game or two. The split of matches is shown for this season up above.

'I'm not cynical. I'm just experienced'.
29/11/2012. Anyone need numbers for Cheddar F C please p/m.

(This post was edited by D A on Apr 26, 2012, 10:04 PM)

eesti7
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Apr 27, 2012, 8:16 PM

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Soccerway is a good way of finding out how many clubs a city has. Click on each division and then venues and you'll get the stadium addresses and often pictures of the venues too.

(This post was edited by eesti7 on Apr 27, 2012, 8:16 PM)

Senior82
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Jun 13, 2012, 1:59 PM

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Re: [alderholt saint] Ukraine Domestic Football [In reply to]	Can't Post or Reply Privately

The Ukrainian Super Cup (Equivalent of our Community Shield) is on 10 July. The season will start the weekend after this.

D A
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Jun 13, 2012, 3:11 PM

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Soccerway is a good way of finding out how many clubs a city has. Click on each division and then venues and you'll get the stadium addresses and often pictures of the venues too.

Had a recent conflab with Leo about various sites and 'Soccerway' was mentioned.
I have come to the conclusion that it should be used as a guide only.
Because of the ammount of leagues they cover info is not reliable (fixtures and venues).
Leo mentioned he'd looked at a country and found some venues incorrect , I know of many incorrect venues on the site but it is a decent guide and the photos are good.
Always look for whatever countries info you need on a local / FA website,I tried to do that when formulating last season's international fixtures on here.
Unlike 'Soccerway' , 'Goalzz' , etc local sites tend to update fixtures / venues more often.

'I'm not cynical. I'm just experienced'.
29/11/2012. Anyone need numbers for Cheddar F C please p/m.

leohoenig
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Jun 13, 2012, 3:21 PM

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Additionally, if I look at soccerway now for Ukraine, it tells me that the Supercup is on a Monday, and then all league fixtures are on Fridays. It should be Tuesday/Saturday. If I click on the calendar for Tuesday 10 July, it shows the Ukraine Super Cup, but says 9 July at the top of the page. this one day innacuracy is for fixtures without kick off times. Once they are fixed, the dates become correct.

I have reported this some time back, but they cannot even see the fault at their HQ!
Last season top division games in Ukraine were split between Saturday/Sunday with one Friday night game, and sometimes a Monday game as well. That makes it a good league for a hop trip - not certain whether visas come back in after the EUros though

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KnowYourMarket
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Jun 14, 2012, 8:17 AM

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You do not need a Visa for Ukraine if you intend on staying less than 90 days.

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yorkieexile
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Jun 14, 2012, 8:27 AM

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Excellent destination then for a weekend trip!

Hope hotel prices have come down

ChristineM
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Jun 14, 2012, 3:11 PM

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A long drive, Peter, in that new Skoda of yours! Wink

D A
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Jun 14, 2012, 3:12 PM

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A long drive, Peter, in that new Skoda of yours! Wink

Just bout fitted in passenger seat last week !

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29/11/2012. Anyone need numbers for Cheddar F C please p/m.

Dave R
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Jun 15, 2012, 1:19 AM

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Re: [KnowYourMarket] Ukraine Domestic Football [In reply to]	Can't Post or Reply Privately

Went to Metalist v Everton in Kharkiv in 2007. Just looked at my passport - no mention of a Ukraine visa.

Went to BATE Borisov v Everton in Minsk in 2009 and did need a visa to go to Belarus.

A travel rep told me that Belarus and Russia are the only European countries requiring a visa. Is that correct - some of this forum's more experienced travellers may know better?

chef66
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Jun 15, 2012, 5:07 AM

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Also been to Ukraine a few years back and no visa required.

Needed a visa to visit Armenia a few years ago.

KnowYourMarket
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Jun 15, 2012, 7:57 AM

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A long drive, Peter, in that new Skoda of yours! Wink

Just bout fitted in passenger seat last week !

He's bought a new one, not sure if there is any correlation of events?

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dani1899
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Jun 15, 2012, 5:55 PM

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went to bate v milan in 2011 and visa was required to enter belarus

D A
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Jun 15, 2012, 6:05 PM

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A travel rep told me that Belarus and Russia are the only European countries requiring a visa. Is that correct .

No.

Wiki is good on this occasion and upto date.

http://en.wikipedia.org/...or_British_nationals

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29/11/2012. Anyone need numbers for Cheddar F C please p/m.

Dave R
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Jun 15, 2012, 11:17 PM

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Thanks D A.

Tractor Boy
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Jun 16, 2012, 12:37 AM

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Depends what you are looking to do. I went to the Ukraine a few years ago on business and needed a visa then. From what others have said on here you may not need one for pleasure/tourism.

D A
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Jun 16, 2012, 1:04 AM

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From what others have said on here you may not need one for pleasure/tourism.

Indeed that's what it says on the link.
Needed one for pleasure/ tourism when I went in 2002 and only valid a month.
Can't remember how much it was but it was issued in London.

'I'm not cynical. I'm just experienced'.
29/11/2012. Anyone need numbers for Cheddar F C please p/m.

(This post was edited by D A on Jun 16, 2012, 10:37 PM)

pinewoodste
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Jun 16, 2012, 10:34 PM

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I might be wrong but I'm sure when they won the Eurovision Song Contest they scrapped the requirement for a Visa.

I often look on the Foreign Office website which gives you a lot of entry details i.e.Visa etc. They also do a lot of scaremongering as well but I suppose they are just making sure of what could go wrong when visiting different countries.

I'm hoping to visit Ukraine late July or early August 2013.

alderholt saint
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Jun 17, 2012, 8:56 AM

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I am going to the Ukraine to coach football to orphan children and have done so for the last few years and i have never needed a visa.My orginal post was because we have a day free in Kiev on sat 28th July before we fly home on the sunday.I am desperate to find a game on the sat in Kiev but cant seem to find one.Dynamo seem to be at home that weekend but on a friday and i cant do friday as still at the camp coaching.Arsenal Kiev and Obolon Kiev are away from home.Are there any other teams in Kiev? also have emailed Dynamo Kiev but i have had no reply yet (probably a bit busy at moment ) regards the fri night game.If anyone could help that would be great as if i can find a game in Kiev on the sat it would finish off a great week.

D A
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Jun 17, 2012, 10:22 AM

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My orginal post was because we have a day free in Kiev on sat 28th July before we fly home on the sunday.I am desperate to find a game on the sat in Kiev but cant seem to find one.Dynamo seem to be at home that weekend but on a friday and i cant do friday as still at the camp coaching.

Pay no attention to English/German speaking fixture websites.
In more than one place on local websites we have this=
Don't shoot the messenger if incorrect nearer the time !

http://www.fcdynamo.kiev.ua/...calendar/match_1363/

'I'm not cynical. I'm just experienced'.
29/11/2012. Anyone need numbers for Cheddar F C please p/m.

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