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wazzafan
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Nov 18, 2014, 12:38 PM

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Here we go again.

The first draft of the season, any obvious geographical mistakes or even clubs I may have missed out please let me know and I'll correct them.

http://tinyurl.com/l58uu7l



Non League Projections - 2017/2018: http://goo.gl/t7dNP8

Step 1: http://goo.gl/X1hoSw
Step 2: http://goo.gl/jwcPDe
Step 3: http://goo.gl/FBjpQG
Step 4: http://goo.gl/ZsDXMm
Step 5: http://goo.gl/24pPdz
Step 6: http://goo.gl/S6okoJ


Darren Lovell
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Nov 18, 2014, 3:00 PM

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Great effort Wazzafan but are you missing Step 3 from your list?


Humble apologies! Scroll across to the right and all appears! Blush



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northstandexile
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Nov 18, 2014, 3:36 PM

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Here we go again.

The first draft of the season, any obvious geographical mistakes or even clubs I may have missed out please let me know and I'll correct them.

http://tinyurl.com/l58uu7l



Can someone explain why the url in the link is not highlighted so it will open when I click on it instead of me having to cop & paste the url into a browser?


northstandexile
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Nov 18, 2014, 3:38 PM

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That's interesting the url in my reply now just needs clicking on it to open.

Can anyone explain this?


leohoenig
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Nov 18, 2014, 3:41 PM

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Here we go again.

The first draft of the season, any obvious geographical mistakes or even clubs I may have missed out please let me know and I'll correct them.

http://tinyurl.com/l58uu7l



Can someone explain why the url in the link is not highlighted so it will open when I click on it instead of me having to cop & paste the url into a browser?


It depends on the internet software you use. On some systems, including Internet Explorer, urls appear directly when copied and pasted.

I am using chrome, and need to include the control character at the bottom of my screen to start and end a url.



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windydcfc
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Nov 18, 2014, 7:29 PM

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Hi WazzafanSmile
I would like to point out 3 things: Firstly you have 2 teams being promoted from MF1 to the MFL, they only promote 1 team.
Secondly (Kivo might be able to help me here), their is a team in the S&HL who are having flootlights put up and I assume they will be applying. I'm sure it's Swallownest MW, but I might be wrong.
Finally I'm expecting at least 2 teams to apply from the NSL.


(This post was edited by windydcfc on Nov 18, 2014, 7:35 PM)


stingray
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Nov 19, 2014, 1:45 PM

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Plus you have North Greenford in Step 5 instead of AFC Hayes.



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VP
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You've put AFC Croydon Athletic into the SE Counties League. I don't think that will happen. Epsom & Ewell are actually the furthest team East in the CCL Premier so, if anyone's gonna be moved across this season, which I doubt, it'll be them first.

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Actually, E&E aren't furthest east although it's very close - I was looking at the CCL Premier map on here thinking it was the whole league. I still don't think AFC will be moved across if they get promoted though.


(This post was edited by VP on Nov 19, 2014, 3:09 PM)


wazzafan
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Nov 19, 2014, 3:06 PM

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I was looking at Croydon already being shifted into the SCEL this season and almost assuming that AFC Croydon Athletic would be placed in the same league. Surely now that the SCEL is finally up to the now minimum step 5 20 teams there has to be relegation this season? Therefore I can't justify why 3 teams should get relegated from the CCP if only 1 or even 0 go down from the SCEL again. If no team from the SCEL catchment area get relegated from the Isthmian Leagues surely AFC Croydon Athletic would have no other league to go in to make the numbers up.



Non League Projections - 2017/2018: http://goo.gl/t7dNP8

Step 1: http://goo.gl/X1hoSw
Step 2: http://goo.gl/jwcPDe
Step 3: http://goo.gl/FBjpQG
Step 4: http://goo.gl/ZsDXMm
Step 5: http://goo.gl/24pPdz
Step 6: http://goo.gl/S6okoJ


VP
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I was looking at Croydon already being shifted into the SCEL this season and almost assuming that AFC Croydon Athletic would be placed in the same league. Surely now that the SCEL is finally up to the now minimum step 5 20 teams there has to be relegation this season? Therefore I can't justify why 3 teams should get relegated from the CCP if only 1 or even 0 go down from the SCEL again. If no team from the SCEL catchment area get relegated from the Isthmian Leagues surely AFC Croydon Athletic would have no other league to go in to make the numbers up.


You're missing Woodstock Sports from your list in the SCEL.

Also, AFC Croydon are no longer sharing at Croydon FC. They're (back?) at the old Croydon Athletic ground which is a bit more westerly.


(This post was edited by VP on Nov 19, 2014, 3:16 PM)


wazzafan
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Nov 19, 2014, 3:16 PM

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I need to do more research into the potential step 7 promotions so more will be added in time.looking around the east midland area, it looks like demand will surely out way availability so is it definitely that two teams will be relegated from a certain division?



Non League Projections - 2017/2018: http://goo.gl/t7dNP8

Step 1: http://goo.gl/X1hoSw
Step 2: http://goo.gl/jwcPDe
Step 3: http://goo.gl/FBjpQG
Step 4: http://goo.gl/ZsDXMm
Step 5: http://goo.gl/24pPdz
Step 6: http://goo.gl/S6okoJ


wazzafan
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Nov 19, 2014, 3:23 PM

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So I have! Apologies for the oversight. Yes I know they've returned home but my point still remains if Cray Wanderers survive and no other team drops down. AFC might have to move across.



Non League Projections - 2017/2018: http://goo.gl/t7dNP8

Step 1: http://goo.gl/X1hoSw
Step 2: http://goo.gl/jwcPDe
Step 3: http://goo.gl/FBjpQG
Step 4: http://goo.gl/ZsDXMm
Step 5: http://goo.gl/24pPdz
Step 6: http://goo.gl/S6okoJ


VP
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Nov 19, 2014, 3:33 PM

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So I have! Apologies for the oversight. Yes I know they've returned home but my point still remains if Cray Wanderers survive and no other team drops down. AFC might have to move across.


You might be correct. I think there could be mass changes in the south east at step 6 due to this being the last season anyone can be at that level without the grading. The CCL have a meeting with the FA next week regarding this - will report back if anything's made public.


(This post was edited by VP on Nov 19, 2014, 3:34 PM)


windydcfc
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Nov 19, 2014, 3:38 PM

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I need to do more research into the potential step 7 promotions so more will be added in time.looking around the east midland area, it looks like demand will surely out way availability so is it definitely that two teams will be relegated from a certain division?

If you look on the thread about promotion to step 6, their are numerous theories! The easiest one is that the WMRL/MF1/EMCL will all be increased to 22 teams and if most of the step 7 candidates come from the East Midlands, then West Leicestershire teams in the EMCL will be moved to MF1. The alternative is that South Leicestershire teams could be moved to the UCL. If the NCEL step 6 get too many promotees, then my local side Lincoln Moorlands could end up in the UCL. I'm sure that the FA are allowing 1 team from each step 7 league to be promoted, as long as they apply and pass the criteria(which the minimum is they must be in a top 5 position)! The FA then pools them and this is when existing step 6 teams on the edge of league boundaries will start to be moved. Also I believe that the FA want to keep all leagues to 22 teams and you have 23 teams in the NWCL, this has also been discussed and whether the Staffs teams Kidsgrove (if relegated)/Alsager will be placed in the MFL! If this happens then teams on the edge of the MFL, Westfields or Blaby & Whetstone if promoted could end up in either the Hellenic or UCL. Good luck with the minefield this year, with certain leagues in the North or Midlands being full at step 5, it's going to be a lot of best guessing and in the end we'll all probably be wrongCrazy



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derekn
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Nov 19, 2014, 3:47 PM

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Any reason for marking Arlesey Town as 'Demoted'?


wazzafan
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Nov 19, 2014, 3:56 PM

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Arlesey are classed as reprieved due to the demise of Salisbury City. The same applies to Maldon & Tiptree at Step 4 as the reprieving system cascades down the pyramid. Both those teams under current PPG would be relieved of relegation due to Salisbury City 'technically' taking there respective relegation spots.



Non League Projections - 2017/2018: http://goo.gl/t7dNP8

Step 1: http://goo.gl/X1hoSw
Step 2: http://goo.gl/jwcPDe
Step 3: http://goo.gl/FBjpQG
Step 4: http://goo.gl/ZsDXMm
Step 5: http://goo.gl/24pPdz
Step 6: http://goo.gl/S6okoJ


derekn
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Sorry, slight colour-blindness issue. I can see now they are marked as reprieved rather than demoted.


keneastlancs
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Nov 20, 2014, 10:34 PM

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why would goole and warrington swap leagues in NPL 1 the north is predominantly north west and northern (ie warrington) and south is NCEL and midland alliance (ie goole)


wazzafan
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Nov 24, 2014, 3:17 PM

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With Witton Albion currently in the step 3 relegation places, as it stands there would be no current room for them in the North. The problem lies that Northwich don't play in Northwich, they play in Flixton. Simply put, I'd predict problems if Northwich and Witton were not put in the same division.

All spreadsheets are updated after the weekends results.



Non League Projections - 2017/2018: http://goo.gl/t7dNP8

Step 1: http://goo.gl/X1hoSw
Step 2: http://goo.gl/jwcPDe
Step 3: http://goo.gl/FBjpQG
Step 4: http://goo.gl/ZsDXMm
Step 5: http://goo.gl/24pPdz
Step 6: http://goo.gl/S6okoJ


keneastlancs
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Nov 26, 2014, 7:28 PM

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yeh I see that but its a straight swap between warrington and goole. I could understand if a team was moved south to let Northwich and witton be in the same league but this isn't the case.


23ofDiamonds
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With Monday 1st December almost upon us, has anybody heard any whispers of who will be applying for Step 4 this season? At present I can only think of my own club.


windydcfc
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With Monday 1st December almost upon us, has anybody heard any whispers of who will be applying for Step 4 this season? At present I can only think of my own club.

I believe that in the NL it will be: Bishop Auckland/Dunston UTS/Shildon
Most of the top NCEL teams.
Most of the top NWCL teams.
Most of the top MFL teams.
I believe Godmanchester will apply from the ECL, not sure about anymore.
I believe R&D/Huntingdon/Holbeach in the UCL, not sure about anymore.



(This post was edited by windydcfc on Nov 27, 2014, 8:23 AM)


kirby knitters
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With Monday 1st December almost upon us, has anybody heard any whispers of who will be applying for Step 4 this season? At present I can only think of my own club.

Kirby Muxloe were going to pay the £100 but have since had a change of heart after the last couple of results.


windydcfc
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Nov 27, 2014, 10:18 AM

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With Monday 1st December almost upon us, has anybody heard any whispers of who will be applying for Step 4 this season? At present I can only think of my own club.

Kirby Muxloe were going to pay the £100 but have since had a change of heart after the last couple of results.

Won't they be seeing pastures new anyway, next season! UCL?TongueTongueTongue



kirby knitters
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With Monday 1st December almost upon us, has anybody heard any whispers of who will be applying for Step 4 this season? At present I can only think of my own club.

Kirby Muxloe were going to pay the £100 but have since had a change of heart after the last couple of results.

Won't they be seeing pastures new anyway, next season! UCL?TongueTongueTongue


You may laugh but the KM sec is getting rather worried about all these changes that are potentially on the way and is not at all happy with the thought of a stint in the UCL. Told him not to lose any sleep over it cos it will be Birmingham again next seasonSly

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