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PaulC
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Sep 12, 2017, 7:27 PM

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What if the applicants to Division Three North for season 1921-22 had been admitted based on their performance rather than by a vote by members.

There were 29 applicants for 18 places (Grimsby from D3S and Stockport relegated from D2 made up the full complement of 20 teams).

The applicants, with their league positions (* shows those elected), were

Central League (6)
2. Crewe Alexandra*
7. Tranmere Rovers*
10. Rochdale*
13. Stalybridge Celtic*
17. Nelson*
18. Southport*

Lancashire Combination (3)
1.Barrow*
5. Lancaster Town
6. Accrington Stanley*
10. South Liverpool
17. Wigan Borough*

Midland League (3)
1. Lincoln City*
3. Chesterfield Town*
4. Scunthorpe & Lindsey United
5. Rotherham Town
8. Castleford Town
11. Halifax Town*
13. Gainsborough Trinity
16.Doncaster Rovers

Birmingham & District League (2)
2. Wrexham*
5. Walsall*

North Eastern League (4)
1. Darlington*
5. Blyth Spartans
7. West Stanley
8. Hartlepools United*
9. Ashington*
11. Durham City*

Yorkshire League (0)
2. Wombwell (withdrew)
6. Wakefield City


Had the number of places allotted to each league been given to the highest placed applicants then the 18 positions would have been filled by:
Accrington Stanley
Barrow
Blyth Spartans (replacing Ashington)
Chesterfield Town
Crewe Alexandra
Darlington
Hartlepools United
Lancaster Town (replacing Wigan Borough)
Lincoln City
Nelson
Rochdale
Scunthorpe & Lindsey United (replacing Halifax Town)
Southport
Stalybridge Celtic
Tranmere Rovers
Walsall
West Stanley (replacing Durham City)
Wrexham


Had the number of places ultimately allocated to each League been filled by the teams in the highest positions (including non-applicants) the teams filling the 18 places would have been:


Birmingham & District League
1 Wellington Town
3 Wrexham

Central League
2 Crewe Alexandra
7 Tranmere Rovers
10 Rochdale
13 Stalybridge Celtic
17 Nelson
18 Southport

Lancashire Combination
1 Barrow
2 Eccles United
3 Fleetwood

Midland League
1 Lincoln City
3 Chesterfield Town
4 Scunthorpe & Lindsey United

North Eastern League
1 Darlington
5 Blyth Spartans
6 Carlisle United
7 West Stanley

Wellington Town, Eccles United, Fleetwood, Scunthorpe, Blyth Spartans, Carlisle United, West Stanley would have replaced Walsall, Accrington Stanley, Wigan Borough, Halifax, Durham, Ashington, Hartlepools.


southend statto
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Sep 12, 2017, 8:10 PM

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Re: [PaulC] Division 3 North - what if? [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

interesting - and done on ppg?


PaulC
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Sep 12, 2017, 8:20 PM

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interesting - and done on ppg?


No, merely on actual places allocated to each league.


cope1
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Sep 12, 2017, 11:44 PM

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Re: [PaulC] Division 3 North - what if? [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

Great work! I have done lots of 'what-if' statistical research on this era int he game, and how the two third divisions were created. I'm pleased to see someone else takes an interest too.


Ropemaker
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Sep 13, 2017, 1:19 AM

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If it was done based on ppg of the applicants then it would work out that all those clubs finishing above tenth would have been elected:

Central League (2, down from 6)
2. Crewe Alexandra
7. Tranmere Rovers

Lancashire Combination (3, no change)
1. Barrow
5. Lancaster Town
6. Accrington Stanley

Midland League (5, up from 3)
1. Lincoln City
3. Chesterfield Town
4. Scunthorpe & Lindsey United
5. Rotherham Town
8. Castleford Town

Birmingham & District League (2, no change)
2. Wrexham
5. Walsall

North Eastern League (5, up from 4)
1. Darlington
5. Blyth Spartans
7. West Stanley
8. Hartlepools United
9. Ashington

Yorkshire League (1, up from 0)
6. Wakefield City

Meaning Blyth Spartans, West Stanley, Scunthorpe & Lindsey United, Rotherham Town, Castleford Town, Lancaster Town, Wakefield City would have been elected instead of Durham City, Halifax Town, Wigan Borough, Rochdale, Stalybridge Celtic, Nelson, Southport



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southend statto
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Sep 13, 2017, 7:58 AM

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"instead of Durham City, Halifax Town, Wigan Borough, Rochdale, Stalybridge Celtic, Nelson, Southport"

and of these, only Rochdale are still in the FL


bmccoll
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Sep 13, 2017, 10:30 PM

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Re: [southend statto] Division 3 North - what if? [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

A lot of what if scenarios spring to mind, the biggest being... What If Queen's Park decided to not oppose professionalism. How would the Scottish game have evolved... and no quips about it being as poor as it is now, thank you! Wink



http://www.scottish-football-historical-archive.co.uk/

 
 


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