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The 15th RLWC kicks off on Oct 27 with Australia v England in Melbourne. Apart from this game, the RLWC doesn't really get going until the SF stage and will end with Australia winning the RLWCfor the 11th time. The only uncertainty is will it be England or New Zealand in the final against Australia. Hopefully there will be some close entertaining games between some of the lesser sides.



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One disappointing aspect is that some nations that rely on 'heritage' players have qualified for the tournament at the expense of others fielding homegrown talent (eg Jamaica, Serbia, Spain and Turkey). Lebanon now has a domestic league, but it's 'national' team is full of 'heritage' players. A missed opportunity.

I note Czech Republic met Norway a couple of days ago in a rugby league international. The sport is now played in circa 60 countries. Be interesting to see how this tournament develops in the years to come.


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Rugby League seems to be at the same stage in it's global development that Rugby Union was at 30 years ago.



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The Rugby League International Federation have been tweaking around the edges. The state of domestic rugby league is going to be taken into account in deciding who can enter the next World Cup - meaning that Scotland are not likely to appear.

Some of the emerging nations are beginning to introduce rules saying x number of players have to be domestically trained. The exact size tends to depend on how strong the competition is however it is a promising trend and one the sport needs to encourage. Ireland have been to the forefront here.

Unusually this competition has seen players who were selected for Australia and New Zealand opt to play for their South Sea Island heritage nation instead. If this is the start of a trend England will have to worry about more than just New Zealand in order to qualify to get battered by the Australians in the final.

Tonga v Samoa could be well worth a watch.


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On the eve of the original Rugby World Cup's latest instalment, yet more evidence emerges that rugby union is continuing its 120-year-old dirty tricks campaign against rugby league:

http://www.smh.com.au/...20171025-gz881n.html


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An expected result in the opening game, Australia 18 England 4 although the game was in the balance until the last few minutes with Australia holding a six point lead. The win for Australia gives them the easy route to the final with England probably meeting New Zealand in the SF. unless Australia go into meltdown and lose to one of their remaining group games.



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An expected result in the opening game, Australia 18 England 4 although the game was in the balance until the last few minutes with Australia holding a six point lead. The win for Australia gives them the easy route to the final with England probably meeting New Zealand in the SF. unless Australia go into meltdown and lose to one of their remaining group games.

Easier route rather than necessarily 'easy', given the likelihood of facing the Tongans and their NRL stars.

Familiar story really with England largely matching the Aussies for much of the game but lacking just that little bit of extra quality. The late try really did distort the scoreline from what would have been a more realistic margin. Plenty of positives but hopefully Bennett makes only minor tweaks rather than the usual trap of swapping half back combinations and the like.


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Familiar story really with England largely matching the Aussies for much of the game but lacking just that little bit of extra quality. The late try really did distort the scoreline from what would have been a more realistic margin. Plenty of positives but hopefully Bennett makes only minor tweaks rather than the usual trap of swapping half back combinations and the like.

Just caught up with the recording after an ill-timed work assignment over in Cumbria. Fair summary, Matt. Encouraging that England were the better team in the second half, despite having to do a lot of tackling in the first. Fartown flyer McGillvary looked dangerous almost every time he touched the ball. Decent game, and a promising start to the tournament, considering many on both sides haven't played for a few weeks. The Kangaroos certainly don't look as invincible as they used to. Two errors from Slater?! Astonishing how few penalties were awarded (and some of those appeared dodgy).


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Some excellent rugby league, principally from Fiji, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea, on day two. PNG look an impressive side now they've added some structure to their natural handling flair. Felt a bit sorry for Wales. Toiling in the 90 per cent humidity of Port Moresby, the Welsh deserve credit for scoring the last points of the match. NZ scrum-half Shaun Johnson illustrated, yet again, during the Samoa group game, what an awesome player he is. The Kiwis' clash with Tonga on November 11 promises to be a cracker. Not 'doing' Sky, I'm restricted to the BBC's predictably patchy tournament coverage. Enjoyed listening to Shaun Edwards talking rugby league, the code that made him. Absolutely wasted coaching rugby union's one-paced dullards.


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Speaking of the TV coverage, the BBC were presumably using the Aussie feed. Great to actually watch the whole game instead of missing chunks of it because of umpteen replays of inane incidents and constant analysis of refereeing decisions instead of letting the game speak for itself. Will be hosting a ‘World Cup breakfast’ next week before heading to the South Shields v Atherton Colls game.

None of the games are on Sky - worth exploring Premier Sports (you can subscribe for a tenner for a month then cancel it) or if you have Freeview then some of the games will be shown on Free Sports (channel 95) which is an offshoot of Premier Sports and previously showed a good number of live NRL games.


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Good shout on channel 95, Matt. At present, it seems to be repeating the Australia-England match. So, stuck for day three with the BBC's unsatisfactory highlights programme. Real shame, because the France-Lebanon clash in Canberra would have been worth watching in full. All square, at 18-18, until the 73rd minute, after which the French self-destructed. Bizarre kit selection - both strips virtually identical.

Two fairly one-sided matches (the second, especially) up in Cairns, though the stadium, surrounded by high ground, appeared to be a hugely appealing arena. Tonga, big and mobile, looked good, albeit Scotland barely extended them, despite the jazzy tartan shorts. Can see the Scots getting similarly thrashed by NZ and Samoa. Ireland surprisingly convincing against Italy, whose right wing had a 'mare.


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I'm not that well up on the relative merits of the squads outside of the Big Three but someone who is told me yesterday that Italy were strong and would put a lot of points on Ireland. I was thus surprised to see the score but haven't caught up with any footage yet.


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Plenty of Super League know-how in the Ireland squad. I felt, at the very least, they'd run Italy close. In the end, the Wolfhounds won comfortably, and now have a chance of facing England in the quarter-finals. Papua New Guinea versus Ireland in Port Moresby next Sunday should be a good match. Shame the crappy BBC isn't showing it live.


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Good shout on channel 95, Matt. At present, it seems to be repeating the Australia-England match. So, stuck for day three with the BBC's unsatisfactory highlights programme.

Get your calendar (and alarm clock) at the ready and visit the Rugby League on TV website for the games to be covered on FreeSports. Certainly tempted to stick on an early alarm for the Samoa v Tonga game before the England v Lebanon game!


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As expected Australia beat France, winning 52-6, to make it 2 wins from 2 leaving France on the verge of elimination.



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As expected Australia beat France, winning 52-6, to make it 2 wins from 2 leaving France on the verge of elimination.



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I'll catch up with the BBC highlights this evening but the feeling on a well-known RL forum is the French, lacking through injury several Super League players and fielding a number of part-time professionals, did fairly well. The French, 20-6 behind at half-time, appear to be short on physical size rather than skills.


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Get your calendar (and alarm clock) at the ready and visit the Rugby League on TV website for the games to be covered on FreeSports. Certainly tempted to stick on an early alarm for the Samoa v Tonga game before the England v Lebanon game!

Glad I followed your advice, Matt! Hugely enjoyable game (best of the tournament so far?) in Hamilton between Pacific Island rivals Samoa and Tonga. A 32-18 win for Tonga, who, clearly, will pose a threat later in the tournament to the 'Big Three'. Tonga looked strong up the middle and quick out wide, and had an excellent kicking game. One thing that did concern me was Tonga's apparent fragility defending their line. Samoa, again dogged by unforced errors, didn't have enough decent field position to apply concerted pressure, yet still managed to score three tries. A case of 'what might have been' for the Samoans.

Electric atmosphere generated by the 18,156 crowd. You could tell from the pitch of the roars a high percentage of the spectators were either women or children. Pleasing to see, also, the simultaneous pre-match 'hakas': made a fine spectacle. Laudable sportsmanship from both teams - before, during and after the game.

Samoa likely to finish their tournament with a big win over abject Scotland, crushed 74-6 by New Zealand in Christchurch. If (welcome) proposals for a domestic league qualification rule come in, this may be the Scots' final appearance at a World Cup. New Zealand versus Tonga next Saturday promises to be a compelling watch!

Now, let's see how Sam Burgess-less England frame against Lebanon in Canberra…


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Not terribly convincing from England, who laboured, especially in the second half, to a 29-10 Canberra victory over unfancied Lebanon. Disappointing because, half-backs Farah and Moses apart, the Lebanese were pretty ordinary. All in all, not a patch on the earlier Samoa-Tonga clash in Hamilton, either in terms of excitement or atmosphere. A win is a win, I guess, but can England, under Wayne Bennett, raise their game later in the tournament to the levels of Australia, New Zealand or even Tonga? I'm not sure. Is Luke Gale, anonymous for the most part, really our best scrum-half? Spirited though he is, Bateman proved, again, he is not a centre.


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The match was played at the Sydney Football Stadium (aka Allianz Stadium) not Canberra.



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You're quite right. I'll blame getting up at six o'clock on a Saturday morning. Anything you want to say about the game?


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Not terribly convincing from England, who laboured, especially in the second half, to a 29-10 Canberra victory over unfancied Lebanon. Disappointing because, half-backs Farah and Moses apart, the Lebanese were pretty ordinary. All in all, not a patch on the earlier Samoa-Tonga clash in Hamilton, either in terms of excitement or atmosphere. A win is a win, I guess, but can England, under Wayne Bennett, raise their game later in the tournament to the levels of Australia, New Zealand or even Tonga? I'm not sure. Is Luke Gale, anonymous for the most part, really our best scrum-half? Spirited though he is, Bateman proved, again, he is not a centre.

Really can't understand Bateman's continued inclusion. Aside from the fact he doesn't regularly play at centre for his club, I'd have him way behind the likes of Percival (St Helens), Shenton (Castleford) and Gildart (Wigan) as specialist centres.

One huge positive has been the performances of Jermaine McGilvary. I questioned Bennett's wisdom of taking only two wingers with him, but McGilvary has been an absolute relevation so far in the tournament.

Only caught the last half hour of the Tonga-Samoa game but it looked a real humdinger and the crowd really added to the spectacle.

After Scotland's thumping against New Zealand (Wales suffering a similar fate against Fiji this morning), three of the Scotland squad - including captain Danny Brough - have been left behind in New Zealand in disgrace as they were allegedly too drunk to board the flight to Australia for their final game. Silly boys.


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...three of the Scotland squad - including captain Danny Brough - have been left behind in New Zealand in disgrace as they were allegedly too drunk to board the flight to Australia for their final game. Silly boys.

If this tournament proves to be Scotland's rugby league World Cup swansong, it's a pretty sorry way to bow out. Professional sport and alcohol shouldn't mix. Another battering on the cards when they face Samoa.

Just caught the highlights from today's games. It shows how deceiving highlights can be: there was I thinking Ireland appeared to have defended well in their narrow defeat by PNG but the stats revealed an awful lot of missed tackles. Having creamed USA, Italy must be doubly ticked off about their lamentable effort against Ireland. Wales outclassed and overrun by an athletic, fast and skilful Fiji side, who seem capable of figuring prominently in the tournament's closing stages. Do England ever look that dynamic?


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One huge positive has been the performances of Jermaine McGilvary. I questioned Bennett's wisdom of taking only two wingers with him, but McGilvary has been an absolute relevation so far in the tournament.

Agreed. Fingers crossed the 'biting' allegation against McGillvary proves unfounded. On the TV replays, the incident certainly didn't look like a bite.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...ugby-league/41871109


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Huddersfield winger Jermaine McGillvary, England's player of the tournament, cleared (in three minutes!) of biting...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...ugby-league/41913410


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