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grumpydwarf
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Is it coincidence that the 3 West Midlands Championship clubs recently taken over by new Chinese owners are all currently struggling near the wrong end of the table?

From a Wolves point of view the signing of Heldur Costa for 13 million seems an extravagance (despite the higher sell on clause). IMO it would have been more appropriate to spend the money on 3/4 decent Championship players and I am certain we would have not been looking over our shoulders at relegation!!!


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At the moment I'd say it's more a case of the teething problems you'll get whenever anyone coming in from outside the game buys a club in a country they're not familiar with. You just hope they'll learn quickly. The owners at Villa and Wolves seem to be doing so, replacing their first managers quite quickly for blokes who know the Championship inside out, though both will probably need the summer to stamp their mark. Be interesting to see who Blues replace Zola with when he eventually goes - Rowett perhaps?

Tranmere are currently fostering strong links with China and it'll be interesting to see if that ever leads to investment in the club.


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Better than Italian owners MadMadMadMadMadMadMadMadMadMad


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Better than Italian owners MadMadMadMadMadMadMadMadMadMad


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At the moment I'd say it's more a case of the teething problems you'll get whenever anyone coming in from outside the game buys a club in a country they're not familiar with. You just hope they'll learn quickly. The owners at Villa and Wolves seem to be doing so, replacing their first managers quite quickly for blokes who know the Championship inside out, though both will probably need the summer to stamp their mark. Be interesting to see who Blues replace Zola with when he eventually goes - Rowett perhaps?

Tranmere are currently fostering strong links with China and it'll be interesting to see if that ever leads to investment in the club.


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paulh66
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Tranmere are currently fostering strong links with China and it'll be interesting to see if that ever leads to investment in the club.


Sponsorship by Mr Woos Takeaway on the cards for next season Paul Wink


If Mr Woo invests a fraction of the money he's made out me over the years it'll be a very good deal for the club! Wink

The Chinese initiative with Tranmere is a big thing and could become massive. Unlike initiatives over there by English clubs in the past, we seem to have got our foot in the door for a slice of the action that's just starting to be pushed on a massive scale by the Chinese government. The big money transfers by Chinese clubs are just the tip of the iceberg; the level of investment and pace of development at grass roots/academy level (which is where Rovers are currently involved) over there is also apparently mind-boggling.


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Is it coincidence that the 3 West Midlands Championship clubs recently taken over by new Chinese owners are all currently struggling near the wrong end of the table?


I don't know, but the top West Midlands club, also recently taken over by a Chinese owner, are currently sitting comfortably in the Premier League. The new owner has made no strange decisions and has given no indication, so far, that he is likely to do so. Lets hope things continue as they are.


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Better than Italian owners MadMadMadMadMadMadMadMadMadMad

You might think that Belgian owners with experience of running a club in Belgium would be a safer bet. But no...



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PhilN
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As far as the Blues are concerned we've just exchanged a bunch of Chinese crooks for a bunch of Chinese incompetents.
League 1 here we come.


MrTangerineMan
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It depends upon the person in question - at Blackpool, we currently have some terrible English owners!


mick
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Is it coincidence that the 3 West Midlands Championship clubs recently taken over by new Chinese owners are all currently struggling near the wrong end of the table?


I don't know, but the top West Midlands club, also recently taken over by a Chinese owner, are currently sitting comfortably in the Premier League. The new owner has made no strange decisions and has given no indication, so far, that he is likely to do so. Lets hope things continue as they are.


Well, one year on things clearly haven't continued as they were and Albion's owner has now taken the very unusual decision to sack the chairman and CEO.

Interesting times, as they say.


garethwrexy
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China or or Merseyside hard choice really



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paulh66
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China or or Merseyside hard choice really


What choice?
(Take your time again....Laugh)

A year after my last post the relationship with the Chinese still seems to be going well. For example they regularly send a delegation of coaches over to Rovers for courses while Rovers have had a presence over their for quite a while, coaching and teaching English. It'll be a slow burner and longer term benefits are anticipated but I've no idea what that'll look like at the moment.


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Whatever



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More foreign owners will become a problem in the PL once 14 has been reached, i think that is the tragic number 14, since that is over the 2/3rd majority which I think is the minimum majority needed when the PL votes on any major changes. The 39th game would then be back on the table


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From a Wolves point of view the signing of Heldur Costa for 13 million seems an extravagance (despite the higher sell on clause). IMO it would have been more appropriate to spend the money on 3/4 decent Championship players and I am certain we would have not been looking over our shoulders at relegation!!!


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miswell
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More foreign owners will become a problem in the PL once 14 has been reached, i think that is the tragic number 14, since that is over the 2/3rd majority which I think is the minimum majority needed when the PL votes on any major changes. The 39th game would then be back on the table


That's not to say every foreign owner will want the 39th game though.


leohoenig
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Meanwhile, Wanda have still their 17% share in Atletico Madrid.



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Meanwhile, Wanda have still their 17% share in Atletico Madrid.
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You still fishing ?




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leohoenig
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Meanwhile, Wanda have still their 17% share in Atletico Madrid.
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You still fishing ?



Not fishing, but certainly mis-typing. I should not post from the phone.
It is exactly the opposite of what I needed to say,

Wanda have sold their 17% share of Atletico Madrid.
I'm not certain if that will mean a change in sponsor's name on the stadium, which I believe is currently Wanda Metropolitano
Wanda will return their sponsorship name to the Dalian club, but it is too late to register the change for 2018.



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oxpete
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Oxford United have got themselves a new owner - the Thai businessman Sumrith Thanakarnjanasuth, who previously held a 25% stake of Reading FC, and has generously congratulated himself for the Biscuit-munchers' achievement of play-off final last year (though by some accounts he spent rather less money there than was initially expected of him).

Despite presently being in 15th place on the fringes of the League One relegation quagmire, he has said he intends to get Oxford United into the Premier League (you heard it here first! Laugh), starting this coming Saturday at home to Fleetwood.





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Oxford United have got themselves a new owner - the Thai businessman Sumrith Thanakarnjanasuth, who previously held a 25% stake of Reading FC, and has generously congratulated himself for the Biscuit-munchers' achievement of play-off final last year (though by some accounts he spent rather less money there than was initially expected of him).

Despite presently being in 15th place on the fringes of the League One relegation quagmire, he has said he intends to get Oxford United into the Premier League (you heard it here first! Laugh), starting this coming Saturday at home to Fleetwood.


Who would have thought that a foreigner with fairytale ambitions would ever own Oxford Uited


oxpete
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Feb 26, 2018, 11:39 PM

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Oxford United have got themselves a new owner - the Thai businessman Sumrith Thanakarnjanasuth, who previously held a 25% stake of Reading FC, and has generously congratulated himself for the Biscuit-munchers' achievement of play-off final last year (though by some accounts he spent rather less money there than was initially expected of him).

Despite presently being in 15th place on the fringes of the League One relegation quagmire, he has said he intends to get Oxford United into the Premier League (you heard it here first! Laugh), starting this coming Saturday at home to Fleetwood.


Who would have thought that a foreigner with fairytale ambitions would ever own Oxford Uited


Lets hope he's not into yachting or holidaying in Tenerife!




 
 


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