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nico
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Old Batelians F.C. say they can no longer run two teams, so the 1st XI in Div. 1 of the Yorkshire Amateur Lge have folded.

And Garforth Crusaders {YAL Div. 2} are currently playing home games at WRCFA HQ, Fleet Lane, Woodlesford. {3G artificial surface}



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UNITA have actually dropped out of the WRCAL now.



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Time to merge the WRCAL and the WYL


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Been coming for a while I think, particularly with prospective promotions of some teams to the North West Counties.


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Time to merge the WRCAL and the WYL


I think they will next season.

The committee at the West Riding County League are getting on and no new blood is coming through.

The move of Hall Green was a particularly big one given the chairman was involved with the WRCAFL for years.


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Time to merge the WRCAL and the WYL


I think they will next season.

The committee at the West Riding County League are getting on and no new blood is coming through.

The move of Hall Green was a particularly big one given the chairman was involved with the WRCAFL for years.


A due moved last summer too, Huddersfield YMCA were one of them - can't think who the other team was without checking!


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Newsome I believe


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Newsome I believe


That's the one!


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Cask FC have folded form the Huddersfield & District League

Kirkheaton Rovers are supposedly struggling for players.

Huddersfield Towns promotion to the Premier League has taken its toll on local football.


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WYAFL WRCAL MERGER

13/02/18 21:03

MERGER NEGOTIATIONS UNSUCCESSFUL

Following a meeting of the Two Leagues Management. It has been confirmed that the CAL clubs have rejected the offer of the WYAFL to merge. As a result the possible merger between WYAFL and WRCAL will not proceed further at this time.

Author: David Walker ... http://fulltime-league.thefa.com/...7&league=7516712



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There several options that the WRCAL are currently looking at.



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Be interesting to see how many WRCAL clubs vote with their feet to join the WYL or Yorks Amateur and can see them down to one division next season


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Be interesting to see how many WRCAL clubs vote with their feet to join the WYL or Yorks Amateur and can see them down to one division next season


Was never really merger talks was it - merger suggests both parties can gain from it/its in both their interests/both need it.

The truth is the West Yorkshire League does not need this and only entertained the idea in order to help out the beleaguered WRCAL and its dwindling members.

A merger would have meant a proper merging of it member clubs across the levels. What the West Yorkshire League came to the "merger talks" table with was a mere rescue plan of sorts - a safe haven for the troubled WRCAL sides if their league folds. And so the WYL obviously said...
"Yes please join us, but we aren't merging in the true sense with you, you will all go into a new division we will create for you...at the bottom"

So the WRCAL have said a firm "No" - but are they now just cutting off their nose to spite their face?

If 5 or 6 of the members in the summer resign and decide to go against the rest and join the WYL, then the league will be in danger of either:

a) folding and its remaining clubs fleeing to the Yorkshire Amateur League, or...
b) Only having 10-13 clubs willing to stick it out in a single division next season, thus losing its Step 7 status anyway...which will effectively make it a feeder to the WYL and so they'll be in exactly the same place as they would have been had they accepted the WYL's offer.

They seem to be in a no win situation to me!


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Premier Division Thornton United are the latest to resign from the West Riding County Amateur League, citing a lack of players.



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Has anybody heard anything else about the future of the West Riding League?

Rumours of a merger with the Yorkshire Amateur league were rife but I've not seen anything.

If it did happen would the likes of Mods, Cents, Hudds Amateur etc move their WYAFL teams across?


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It's still all in the air at the moment.



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Posting from the WYAFL (on Full Time):

MERGER NEGOTIATIONS UNSUCCESSFUL
Following a meeting of the Two Leagues Management. It has been confirmed that the CAL clubs have rejected the offer of the WYAFL to merge. As a result the possible merger between WYAFL and WRCAL will not proceed further at this time.

So looks like completely off, as a merger. I don't know what that means for individual teams or the future of the WRCAL.


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There have been a number of negociations since then though. The YAL has been considered for a merger - that's ongoing, although several WRCAL teams have applied to join the WYL, accepting that they will lose their step 7 status and be placed in the bottom rung of the WYL. Two teams have obviously applied for step 6 status (one of which is almost certain to achieve it). What could happen is that the WRCAL just folds in the summer and those sides that are left will have to make late applications for one of the other leagues - I'm assuming the County FA will step in then, but knowing the County FA that might not necessarily to be a good thing. One other scenario is the WRCAL running with a single small division next season, which would inevitably see it lose its step 7 status.



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Any more news on the potential YAL merger? I've not seen anything from either side.

Rob - Do you know which teams have applied to the WYAFL?


robgrillo
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Sorry, no new news at my end as yet.



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nico
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Wakefield Lge news...

"It is disappointing to report that at this late stage in the season, both Prince of Wales (OCR) FC and Crown Gawthorpe FC have submitted their resignations from the Premier Division."



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Sorry, no new news at my end as yet.


So the West Riding League did speak to the Yorkshire Amateur but were told it was too late to start talks for the 18/19 season.

They will run 1 Premier Division next season and will look to merge with the Yorkshire Amateur League in 19/20 placed at step 7 with a mix of both leagues teams.

If that happens would some of the clubs with teams in both the West Yorkshire & Yorkshire Amateur league move their WYL teams to the new League?


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Sorry, no new news at my end as yet.


So the West Riding League did speak to the Yorkshire Amateur but were told it was too late to start talks for the 18/19 season.

They will run 1 Premier Division next season and will look to merge with the Yorkshire Amateur League in 19/20 placed at step 7 with a mix of both leagues teams.

If that happens would some of the clubs with teams in both the West Yorkshire & Yorkshire Amateur league move their WYL teams to the new League?


Seriously cannot see the FA awarding Step 7 status to the top division of the new league. West Yorkshire already has a Step 7 division, the WYL Prem - it does not need two!


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Anyone hazard a guess at the promotion and relegation permutations in the West Yorkshire league this summer?

My guess would be:

Shelley step 6, two down from prem and 3 up from div 1 to create 16 in prem

Three up from div 1, 2 down from Prem to create 14, Brighouse either relegated or fold to leave 13 with 3 up from div 2 to create 16

3 up from Div 2 to leave either 8 or 9 teams depending on whether Brighouse fold or not. Leaving up to 8 spaces for new applicants in div 2

Opinions?


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The West Yorkshire League is planning to add an extra division next season (div 2 divided into west and east sections probably) so they will have an awful lot of vacancies. The failed merger with the WRCAL would have had about 4 WRCAL teams placed in div 1, with the rest in div2. That won't happen now but they will still be accepting several of the WRCAL for next season.



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