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There is more cricket played in Wales than there is in Scotland or Ireland, but Glamorgan don't win many honours and their squad would undoubtedly initially form the basis of the Welsh squad.

If Glamorgan was the basis for a Welsh squad it wouldn't be desperately strong. In their last Championship game there were six Welsh-born players who had played fewer than 150 first-class matches between them. The others were born in Australia (2), Pakistan, South Africa and Scotland.


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There is more cricket played in Wales than there is in Scotland or Ireland, but Glamorgan don't win many honours and their squad would undoubtedly initially form the basis of the Welsh squad.

If Glamorgan was the basis for a Welsh squad it wouldn't be desperately strong. In their last Championship game there were six Welsh-born players who had played fewer than 150 first-class matches between them. The others were born in Australia (2), Pakistan, South Africa and Scotland.

Being born in the country you represent isn't a prerequisite


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There is more cricket played in Wales than there is in Scotland or Ireland, but Glamorgan don't win many honours and their squad would undoubtedly initially form the basis of the Welsh squad.

If Glamorgan was the basis for a Welsh squad it wouldn't be desperately strong. In their last Championship game there were six Welsh-born players who had played fewer than 150 first-class matches between them. The others were born in Australia (2), Pakistan, South Africa and Scotland.

Being born in the country you represent isn't a prerequisite

Indeed: the Pakistan-born player in the last game plays for Australia. It is however an indication of how Welsh the current Glamorgan team is.


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Just as well for England. Cool


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Money talks and iím Assuming Investment in Welsh cricket is far higher with its share Of ECB funding than it ever would be if Wales went it alone.


Precisely that. There is no reason for the ECB to fund another country's cricket, and if Wales went "independent" it would not do so. Ireland and Scotland both judged that the opportunities of international cricket outweighed the money they had formerly received from Lord's, but Wales has never shown any great interest in doing the same.



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Evidence?


Cricket Scotland states that there are 113 cricket clubs in Scotland. There is a bias towards Edinburgh and the east coast, although only Western Isles is completely bereft of cricket. (There has been cricket in Stornoway in the past, but shinty is the main non-football sport of the Highlands and Islands.)

The four cricket unions in Ireland have the following number of affiliated clubs: Leinster 51 (36 of these in Dublin), North (all Northern Ireland) 37, North West 22 (1 in Donegal, the rest in Northern Ireland), Munster (which includes Connacht for cricket) 11. That's 121, of which only 27 are in the Republic of Ireland outside Dublin. There are whole counties with no clubs.

Cricket Wales does not provide such a detailed figure, but states that there are "more than 230" cricket clubs in Wales. Every part of the country does have cricket. There is a league with five divisions in Pembrokeshire, and a team from Anglesey has won the North Wales Premier League. Given its sparse population it's unsurprising that there isn't all that much cricket in Mid Wales, but Newtown CC have reached the Shropshire Premier League a couple of times.

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