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splodge
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Reading the thread on Non-League Regional Boundaries had me thinking.

I live in the central south of England, but according to the weather presenters they can't decide whether Hampshire is in the South East or South West.

Can they make up the minds or occasionally mention the weather in the central south



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Reading the thread on Non-League Regional Boundaries had me thinking.

I live in the central south of England, but according to the weather presenters they can't decide whether Hampshire is in the South East or South West.

Can they make up the minds or occasionally mention the weather in the central south


I was told by a chap in Chichester that the South (central south) is from Littlehampton to Portland and as far north as the Berkshire Downs, I would not disagree with him.

Hampshire (and the Isle of Wight) are like Oxfordshire for some reason in the South East according to the government, despite a third of the East region being South East of Oxfordshire, to me the South East is Kent, most of Sussex, Surrey, Greater London. Parts of the south east are further from my house than most of mid Wales and south Manchester, in fact Exeter is nearer than Ramsgate. Parts of the county are little over 40 miles from the Welsh border, the nearest tidal water is in the Severn, Oxford is 50 miles from Meridan and some say the landmass centre of the country is actually in the north of the county. As a lad Oxford was in the South Midlands, but now we are not allowed to call it that, though the BBC weather people still do use the term for the area.

To me the west country does not start until Bristol, the south west is Cornwall, Devon, parts of Somerset and west Dorset.

The north starts at Crewe, Mansfield is in the Midlands but Chesterfield is in the north.

Most of Lincolnshire is in the East not the East Midlands, no where with a coastline can be in the Midlands.

Bedfordshire is the only county in England that is not next to the coast / tidal water or next to a county that is next to the coast / tidal water - ie two counties away from the coast / tidal water.


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Molders, Gloucestershire is most definitely in the West Country, and to judge from the speech patterns of the inhabitants of Kidderminster, Worcestershire is too.


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We're on the Surrey / Hampshire / Berkshire borders.
There are all sorts of anomalies around here regarding real and imagined boundaries but this area is usually classed as South East. I'd say the South East finishes at about Basingstoke / Alton.

I lok forward to the day when the local councils get together and form themselves into a unitary authority across the three county boundaries. Surrey Heath BC came up with the idea to abolish itself to save money but some Hampshire CC people are against it. We may even invite Bracknell Forest to the party as well. It'd make sense as the communication links and towns in the area cross county boundaries all the time and the councils already have to come to agreements about who's responsible for road maintenance etc. so having one authority based around what the ONS call the Aldershot Urban Area (http://en.wikipedia.org/...Aldershot_Urban_Area)
would make things easier IMO.

The area is already known as the Blackwater Valley. Can't see anyone being against that as the name for the unitary authority if it ever happens.


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The north starts at Crewe, Mansfield is in the Midlands but Chesterfield is in the north.

Thank you Molders , official at last.



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people who say that holywell has a worse drug problem than any other town in north wales when it doesnt ! Mad



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people who say that holywell has a worse drug problem than any other town in north wales when it doesnt ! Mad


Totally agree. They are all as bad as each other...........



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Reading the thread on Non-League Regional Boundaries had me thinking.

I live in the central south of England, but according to the weather presenters they can't decide whether Hampshire is in the South East or South West.

Can they make up the minds or occasionally mention the weather in the central south


My mum & dad live in Castle Douglas, a small town in SW Scotland about an hours drive west of Carlisle where our regional ITV "Border TV" was based. Recently Border & Tyne Tees merged some services to cut costs and now the majority of our news & weather is based in Newcastle. Previously SW Scotland had reasonably fair news coverage but when I was home for a fortnight over Christmas & New Year, and more recently for my sister's wedding, Lookaround (the Border News program) reported on nothing in Scotland west of Annan. Plenty of news from Carlisle, Maryport, Whitehaven, Workington, Isle of Man and Scottish Borders, but nothing referring to Dumfries, Kirkcudbrightshire or Stranraer. For what is supposed to be our "local" station their move to Newcastle has had a definite detrimental effect on coverage of our area. BBC is as much use to us as a f*rt in a hurricane because (unless something earth-shattering happens in Galloway) BBC Scotland give us the impression Scotland starts at Lesmahagow.



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splodge
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Similar down here for local TV coverage.

BBC South from Weymouth in the west to Brighton in the East to Buckingham in the North

Meridian's even worse - Weymouth in the West, Kent and South Essex in the East and as far north as Buckingham.

Meridian used to have a South and South East studio to split them up but this is no more so for example a factory fire in Southend is now deemed local news for us in Hampshire and those in South West Dorset.



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Reading the thread on Non-League Regional Boundaries had me thinking.

I live in the central south of England, but according to the weather presenters they can't decide whether Hampshire is in the South East or South West.

Can they make up the minds or occasionally mention the weather in the central south


I was told by a chap in Chichester that the South (central south) is from Littlehampton to Portland and as far north as the Berkshire Downs, I would not disagree with him.

Hampshire (and the Isle of Wight) are like Oxfordshire for some reason in the South East according to the government, despite a third of the East region being South East of Oxfordshire, to me the South East is Kent, most of Sussex, Surrey, Greater London. Parts of the south east are further from my house than most of mid Wales and south Manchester, in fact Exeter is nearer than Ramsgate. Parts of the county are little over 40 miles from the Welsh border, the nearest tidal water is in the Severn, Oxford is 50 miles from Meridan and some say the landmass centre of the country is actually in the north of the county. As a lad Oxford was in the South Midlands, but now we are not allowed to call it that, though the BBC weather people still do use the term for the area.

To me the west country does not start until Bristol, the south west is Cornwall, Devon, parts of Somerset and west Dorset.

The north starts at Crewe, Mansfield is in the Midlands but Chesterfield is in the north.

Most of Lincolnshire is in the East not the East Midlands, no where with a coastline can be in the Midlands.

Bedfordshire is the only county in England that is not next to the coast / tidal water or next to a county that is next to the coast / tidal water - ie two counties away from the coast / tidal water.

Isn't the Nene tidal at Wisbech in neighbouring Cambridgeshire?



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Reading the thread on Non-League Regional Boundaries had me thinking.

I live in the central south of England, but according to the weather presenters they can't decide whether Hampshire is in the South East or South West.

Can they make up the minds or occasionally mention the weather in the central south


I was told by a chap in Chichester that the South (central south) is from Littlehampton to Portland and as far north as the Berkshire Downs, I would not disagree with him.

Hampshire (and the Isle of Wight) are like Oxfordshire for some reason in the South East according to the government, despite a third of the East region being South East of Oxfordshire, to me the South East is Kent, most of Sussex, Surrey, Greater London. Parts of the south east are further from my house than most of mid Wales and south Manchester, in fact Exeter is nearer than Ramsgate. Parts of the county are little over 40 miles from the Welsh border, the nearest tidal water is in the Severn, Oxford is 50 miles from Meridan and some say the landmass centre of the country is actually in the north of the county. As a lad Oxford was in the South Midlands, but now we are not allowed to call it that, though the BBC weather people still do use the term for the area.

To me the west country does not start until Bristol, the south west is Cornwall, Devon, parts of Somerset and west Dorset.

The north starts at Crewe, Mansfield is in the Midlands but Chesterfield is in the north.

Most of Lincolnshire is in the East not the East Midlands, no where with a coastline can be in the Midlands.

Bedfordshire is the only county in England that is not next to the coast / tidal water or next to a county that is next to the coast / tidal water - ie two counties away from the coast / tidal water.


You mean double-landlocked. You do learn things from watching Eggheads.



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The north starts at Crewe, Mansfield is in the Midlands but Chesterfield is in the north.

Thank you Molders , official at last.


Excuse me while I butt in on your geographically challenged spat

Chesterfield is 53.236 deg north
Mansfield is 53.1472 deg north,
while Crewe is 53.1018 deg north

Shurely shome mishtake?



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dottirofhod
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Apr 28, 2011, 11:44 PM

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The north starts at Crewe, Mansfield is in the Midlands but Chesterfield is in the north.

Thank you Molders , official at last.


Excuse me while I butt in on your geographically challenged spat

Chesterfield is 53.236 deg north
Mansfield is 53.1472 deg north,
while Crewe is 53.1018 deg north

Shurely shome mishtake?

Shtand your ground Molders. No sphat !



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The north starts at Crewe, Mansfield is in the Midlands but Chesterfield is in the north.

Thank you Molders , official at last.


Excuse me while I butt in on your geographically challenged spat

Chesterfield is 53.236 deg north
Mansfield is 53.1472 deg north,
while Crewe is 53.1018 deg north

Shurely shome mishtake?

Shtand your ground Molders. No sphat !

Evidently the north starts at 53.15 degrees north then. Southerner. Sly



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Ties.
What useful purpose do they serve? In my view they don't make you look smart and are a [email protected]@dy nuisance.

Dress codes.
If I'm invited out and there's a dress code I don't go. I've got no problem with wearing trousers and a shirt but there's a difference between wearing them by choice and being told to wear them.

Automated answering machines and call centres.
Why is it that these days when you ring an organisation for help or advice you have to spend five minutes choosing option after option before being transferred to a queue that keeps you on hold for what seems like an eternity? There have even been occasions when the final destination is met with a message like, 'I'm sorry, all our operaters are busy, please ring back later'.

Unmanned railway stations.
If I want to go to a Wivenhoe Town match in midweek I can travel by train without paying. after 6:00PM there are no staff at Clacton-on-Sea rail station. If you want a ticket you have to use the ticket machine (which is what I do). Wivenhoe is an unmanned station so there's no-one checking tickets at that end either. Also, I have never yet seen a ticket inspector on the train at that time of the evening. All the locals are aware of this and take adventage of it. No wonder fares are so high when countless people get to travel for nothing.

Eastenders.
That programme is largely responsible for teaching a whole generarion that the way to conduct a relationship is to scream at each other. If I had my way I'd force the BBC to broadcast it after the watershed as I really don't believe it's suitable viewing for children, especially younger ones.



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Molders, Gloucestershire is most definitely in the West Country, and to judge from the speech patterns of the inhabitants of Kidderminster, Worcestershire is too.



You can also add Oxfordshire !.


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Unmanned railway stations.
If I want to go to a Wivenhoe Town match in midweek I can travel by train without paying. after 6:00PM there are no staff at Clacton-on-Sea rail station. If you want a ticket you have to use the ticket machine (which is what I do). Wivenhoe is an unmanned station so there's no-one checking tickets at that end either. Also, I have never yet seen a ticket inspector on the train at that time of the evening. All the locals are aware of this and take adventage of it. No wonder fares are so high when countless people get to travel for nothing.

That's not uncommon in places like Holland, Germany and Austria either ........but they pay in the main. I recall, to my embarrassment, an incident with a friend who was living in Vienna back in the eighties; we went to board a tram and I didn't "clip" my ticket meaning I could use it again and told him so when we got off at the other end. He looked at me quizically and said " if all the people did that, then we would have no transport." It's a mindset thing in this country - from the top down, mind - and I felt extremely ashamed of myself that afternoon.


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The north starts at Crewe, Mansfield is in the Midlands but Chesterfield is in the north.

Thank you Molders , official at last.


Excuse me while I butt in on your geographically challenged spat

Chesterfield is 53.236 deg north
Mansfield is 53.1472 deg north,
while Crewe is 53.1018 deg north

Shurely shome mishtake?

Shtand your ground Molders. No sphat !

Evidently the north starts at 53.15 degrees north then. Southerner. Sly



Taking a line from the Wash to Severn (via Northampton and Banbury), Crewe is further north of that line than Chesterfield despite actually being south. Crewe is nearer to Scotland than Chesterfield despite being south of Chesterfield..

England is more a strange triangle than anyother shape and extends further south in the west and north in the east. As we have said before Lowestoft is north of Birmingham, but Lowestoft opted to play in a South East League.


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Apr 29, 2011, 5:02 PM

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The north starts at Crewe. Crewe is nearer to Scotland than Chesterfield despite being south of Chesterfield..

Yup , up your's Jupp.



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Oh don't get me started on ITV Regional News. When I wake up in the morning I want to know whats happening in Devon and Cornwall- but no, now our local ITV News comes from Bristol. When is wonderfully handy if the main road is closed into Plymouth (as it was the other morning) and I get told that a squirrel has farted just outside Swindon- so expect delays in Much Farting on AvonPirate

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The north starts at Crewe. Crewe is nearer to Scotland than Chesterfield despite being south of Chesterfield..


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Yup , up your's Jupp.

Sly... you're still a southerner Hoddy!!! Andy's just trying to disown Crewe, that's all.



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The north starts at Crewe, Mansfield is in the Midlands but Chesterfield is in the north.

Thank you Molders , official at last.


Excuse me while I butt in on your geographically challenged spat

Chesterfield is 53.236 deg north
Mansfield is 53.1472 deg north,
while Crewe is 53.1018 deg north

Shurely shome mishtake?

Shtand your ground Molders. No sphat !

Evidently the north starts at 53.15 degrees north then. Southerner. Sly



Taking a line from the Wash to Severn (via Northampton and Banbury), Crewe is further north of that line than Chesterfield despite actually being south. Crewe is nearer to Scotland than Chesterfield despite being south of Chesterfield..

England is more a strange triangle than anyother shape and extends further south in the west and north in the east. As we have said before Lowestoft is north of Birmingham, but Lowestoft opted to play in a South East League.

I think you'll find Crewe is actually nearer to Chesterfield than it is to Scotland, but I know what you meant!



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Oh don't get me started on ITV Regional News. When I wake up in the morning I want to know whats happening in Devon and Cornwall- but no, now our local ITV News comes from Bristol. When is wonderfully handy if the main road is closed into Plymouth (as it was the other morning) and I get told that a squirrel has farted just outside Swindon- so expect delays in Much Farting on AvonPirate

Thank god for BBC Spotlight!



ITV regional news is a joke, 99% of our news is south of us despite our transmitter actually being north of where I live. There is now a large void on ITV which used to be 50% of the Central South area that they don't cover these days, parts of Oxfordshire, Bucks, Warwickshire, Northants and Gloucestershire get no coverage or are on programmes people in those places can't pick up - on one TV forum it's been noted that viewers in the wrong parts (dues to hills, landscape, etc) of Coventry and Solihull now end up with news from Southampton and Brighton. I have also noticed on both BBC and ITV when a area is in a overlap area (north Wilts, parts of Lincolnshire, Milton Keynes, etc) those areas tend to get good coverage because one report can go on two programmes..


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Just to clarify...the North starts once you cross Waterloo Bridge, over the Thames!



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Just to clarify...the North starts once you cross Waterloo Bridge, over the Thames!

And the South starts at Weston up this end. That's a big middle bit ?



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Well I get annoyed by people in public spaces who have no awareness of anyone else. When you wait for the lift at Russell Square tube people stand about 10 feet back from the bugger while others are struggling to get up off the platform. Beware though, if you do something sensible like walk into the 10ft of empty space everyone will gang up on you for being 'childish' and 'pushing in'. When you get up to the top there is invariably a group of Italians standing directly outside the barriers which you have to push through, all looking surprised as they 18th group of people push them out of the way. And then you get to work and have to get the lift up to the 9th floor only for a group of brainless students to be too busy chatting to realise the lift has arrived, wait until the doors closed and then press the frigging button again! Invariably they are too stupid to notice that the doors opening again and you have to go through the entire palaver again. Would be less annoying if they were actually going UP, but half the time they press up and down 'just in case', failing to realise that if you just press the direction you want, you'll get the next lift going rather than going 9 floors up just to go one floor down!!!!

As for regional boundaries, these bother me less but are far more interesting. I consider the south-east to be Kent, Sussex, Surrey, Greater London, Essex, Middlesex, west Hampshire, west Berkshire and south Herts. And maybe a bit of south Bucks too. For me, Oxford is south midlands, as is Bedfordshire (although that's also east) and the midlands do include Lincolnshire as the 'mid' bit, in my opinion, refers solely to north/south, not east/west. I'd accept Crewe as the gateway to the north.


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Right... my turn for a rant. But before I do, when I used to go up to Kidsgrove for work, staying in either Crewe or Alsager if the need arose, I always felt I was going up to the midlands... north midlands perhaps, but still the midlands. Manchester was definitely the North, Stevenage or Letchworth dodgy but probably best described as the marches.

Having got that out of the way (not really all that fussed about whether Stevenage and Kidsgrove are both or neither in the midlands, tried to avoid both), my real rant, or rather three, both to do with driving:

(1) Yellow "Baby on board" signs. What's that supposed to tell me? Generally speaking, there are no babies or small children, so either you're lying or you've lost your child somewhere in a shopping centre. I have, oddly enough, managed to avoid ramming into the car in front of me: normally, it's something I try to avoid. Your sign telling me that you have a child in your family (although rarely in the car at the time) is never going to make me **less** likely to slam into the back of you. Trust me on this. I'll try to avoid it anyway.

(2) Lane narrowing from 2 to 1. The most logical and effective way is that everyone drives up to the point at which it narrows, each keeping to their own lane, and then slide in one for one. What often happens however is that when the sign says "2 lanes going down to 1 - 1 mile", everyone pulls into the inside lane, creates even more of a traffic jam, and then rants at cars charging up the outside lane. The rule should be: stay in lane until the road narrows, then feed in, one by one. Trust me, I've seen the system work, and it really does reduce everyone's waiting time.

(3) to do with English motorway driving particularly. There are three or four lanes on the motorway in South-East England. Use them all!! I've sometimes driven down to Dover thinking I've had my own private lane, driving at the speed limit down the inside lane while there's been huge queues of cars outside me.


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(3) to do with English motorway driving particularly. There are three or four lanes on the motorway in South-East England. Use them all!! I've sometimes driven down to Dover thinking I've had my own private lane, driving at the speed limit down the inside lane while there's been huge queues of cars outside me.


I hear you brother.
I use the M3 to go to and from work. It's only one junction, about 4 miles. I will, almost everytime I use this route, go past cars who sit in the middle lane whilst I stay in the inside lane.
Today coming back from football I used the same stretch of motorway. Three cars all in line doing 60-65mph in the middle lane which I happily went past on the inside lane as it was empty.
This happens nearly every time I go on the M25 as well although sometimes you're two or three lanes away from the muppets who are scared to move across.
They pull onto the motorway, go straight into lane 2 which becomes lane 3 at times and stay there until they finally decide to come off which they also leave to the last second and have to cut across two or three lanes in order to make the junction.
There are often accidents on the M25 approach from the M3 because of this and, when that happens, it can affect the traffic locally even though we're 15 miles away.
It drives me mental that, in all my years of driving, I've only seen two people pulled up by the police for dangerous driving on the motorway.

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And it's worse when you've got a relatively empty motorway. I generally pull into the inside lane, when I can... then you see a car in the near distance, travelling all by itself at 65 mph in the middle lane. I'll never deliberately undertake a car, so it means pulling out two lanes to overtake, then pulling in two lanes. With the cost of fuel nowadays, one shouldn't ignore the extra cost of these manoeuvres! However, and to most people's (but not everyone's) credit, it's true that most having been overtaken will then also realise their folly and pull into the empty inside lane. Obviously, hat and glove wearers and pipe smokers are oblivious. Also anyone with a mustache.

Worst of all however are the Dutch. If you're barrelling down a German autobahn, for example, you can expect people to look in their rear view mirror before pulling out in their caravan to overtake a lorry. To a Dutchman however, and to a man, the mere fact of putting his indicator on obviates any need to look in his rear view mirror... when you get close behind him, and the indicator comes on, and you look in your own rear view mirror and decide there's nothing behind you, so he can't possibly pull out, because you're going to have to jam on your brakes... well, he is going to give you a brake test. And after you've slammed on the brakes, travelling at 30 mph faster than the car which has just pulled out 20 ft in front of you, recovered all the stuff which you were carrying in the back seat and is now in the front, also recovered your sanity, and decided on a place to get your trousers cleaned, and eventually sailed past him... he is still utterly oblivious. He's loaded up the caravan with all the food he's going to need for his holiday, so he doesn't need to buy anything and Marieke can still provide the milk, cheese slices and meatballs they'd bought in Utrecht, which together with the sack of potatos they've also brought should be enough to last them the two weeks holiday in the South of France where they will be able to avoid spending any money...

... sorry, am I ranting? I think I may be.


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As we're onto Europe, I know it's a stereotype but Belgian drivers!
I've not driven when I've been there - I'm too scared as it's bad enough trying to cross the road on foot. They don't seem to acknowledge pedestrian crossings like we do. The only cars that stop to let people cross are those with 'foreign' number plates like German and British.


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Oh dear, you've got me started now... Belgians... they only had a driving licence in the late 60s and a driving test in the late 70s.

Belgians v Dutch... well Belgians are more erratic, certainly, but I still think the Dutch are more worrying because they're more consistently dangerous. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Faced with a Dutchman, you know he's going to just pull out regardless. A Belgian won't, but he will pull in behind you thinking he's Thierry Boutsen. I don't particularly like either situation, but I am more comfortable with a car sitting 4 ft behind my back bumper (who then passes me and slows down) than one pulling out 4ft in front of me without any warning.

It's funny how you change over time... I used to have no trouble driving around Brussels when I used to live there. Just get used to a degree of randomness, and gain an intimate knowledge of one-way streets (so you know when you can blast through in the safe knowledge that there's nothing coming from your right, and when you need to slow down and look). However, I don't live there anymore, and it shames me to say that I'll now go two extra junctions on the Brussels Ring just so I get the easy route through Place Meiser, rather than barrel my way through as I used to when I lived there.


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Now we have bits of Motorways that are four lanes wide the "middle lane sitters" now use the third lane, so to keep within the law we all have to go to the 4th lane to pass those doing 55mph in the 3rd lane. The 1st and 2nd lanes sit unused.

Motorway Junctions on the M40, at Bicester and Wycombe travelling south, both have notices, markings etc at least one mile in advance to use the inside to exit the motorway. You get in that lane behind someone doing 40mph who suddenly bumps across the solid markings 50 yards short of the junction, doing this they just avoid the one travelling 85mph who decides 100 yards from the junction that they want to turn off and shoot across all three lanes in the matter of 30 yards usually with no signal.

The Bicester junction again, why 95% of the population do not or cannot understand the words "use both lanes for A34 / Oxford". They all go in one lane and if you use the other one will pull across in front of you to stop you.

Snail roundabouts, all you have to do is get in the correct lane as you enter you will then go onto the correct exit, no most people go around the roundabouts in the outside lane cutting everyone up.

Roundabouts in general why do most of the population fail to signal their exit, or if they do put a signal on a exit before they need to.


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On the motorways theme, people who, when joining the motorway on a slip road that becomes a lane, insist on pulling out into the middle lane. I really don't see what is so hard to understand about signs like the one below.



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Nationalist editors on Wikipedia also really annoy me. A small group of them can force ridiculous policies on the whole project simply by behaving so obnoxiously that everyone else gives up. Examples include preventing the phrase "Northern Irish" from being used to describe people (instead they have to be "from Northern Ireland") and a guy who insisted than anyone born in Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania between 1940 and 1990 could not be described as being born in the USSR (according to him they were all independent countries at the time).


See also Middlesex nationalists(?). Wikipedia is one place where pedantry should be encouraged so places like Staines and Ashford are now in Surrey, not Middlesex. We don't call Hampshire 'Wessex' anymore so Middlesex should go the same way. Granted it's a historical county and I'm not trying to get it erased from all history but it ceased to be in 1965. It is an ex-county.
Even when people begrudgingly admit they're now in Surrey or Greater London they still insist on saying it used to be Middlesex.
The area I live in has possibly been part of Surrey, Mercia, Wessex, Middlesex or Sussex at times. It's Surrey at the moment so that's what I call it.


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Nationalist editors on Wikipedia also really annoy me. A small group of them can force ridiculous policies on the whole project simply by behaving so obnoxiously that everyone else gives up. Examples include preventing the phrase "Northern Irish" from being used to describe people (instead they have to be "from Northern Ireland") and a guy who insisted than anyone born in Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania between 1940 and 1990 could not be described as being born in the USSR (according to him they were all independent countries at the time).


See also Middlesex nationalists(?). Wikipedia is one place where pedantry should be encouraged so places like Staines and Ashford are now in Surrey, not Middlesex. We don't call Hampshire 'Wessex' anymore so Middlesex should go the same way. Granted it's a historical county and I'm not trying to get it erased from all history but it ceased to be in 1965. It is an ex-county.
Even when people begrudgingly admit they're now in Surrey or Greater London they still insist on saying it used to be Middlesex.
The area I live in has possibly been part of Surrey, Mercia, Wessex, Middlesex or Sussex at times. It's Surrey at the moment so that's what I call it.


Argggh!!! Middlesex forever!!!!
OK, not really. But I think it's a personal thing. I'm very into cricket and in cricket Middlesex is very much alive. To my mind, it doens't need a county council to exist. As far as local government is concerned it clearly doesn't exist anymore, but then I don't spend much time pondering local government so it doesn't bother me much.
If we're going down the route of local government though, I have had countless arguments with people who think that moving from an N postcode to an EN postcode means they have moved out of London. I usually tell them to check what it says on their wheelie-bin - 'London Borough of Barnet' is a bit of a give away...


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Snail roundabouts, all you have to do is get in the correct lane as you enter you will then go onto the correct exit, no most people go around the roundabouts in the outside lane cutting everyone up.

Roundabouts in general why do most of the population fail to signal their exit, or if they do put a signal on a exit before they need to.


This very morning, a blue van not only turned right at an island without indicating at all but at the very next island, despite approaching in the "turn left" lane decided he was again going to turn right. So very nearly caused me to have two accidents in two minutes!



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As we're talking about things which are pointless and annoying how come we're on page 2 and no one's yet mentioned Robbie Savage?

It irks me that someone at 5 Live must have said at some point "I know what'd be a good idea - let's get Robbie Savage on a phone-in show". And someone else must have said "Okay, let's do it". Shocked

Had it been Talk Sport, I'd not have been surprised as Savage would fit in nicely with the other numpties on that station, but I expect better of 5 Live.



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I'm very into cricket and in cricket Middlesex is very much alive. To my mind, it doens't need a county council to exist.


I went to the Oval to watch Surrey v Middlesex in the Twenty20 a couple of seasons ago. The Oval announcer got it right when he said "welcome to the London derby". Wink

You're correct in that a county doesn't need a county council to exist but, to my knowledge, Berkshire is the only county where this is the case. They had to bring in a special act of parliament or something to keep it registered as a county when it got split into unitary authorities.


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Roundabouts in general why do most of the population fail to signal their exit, or if they do put a signal on a exit before they need to.

Or even, go around the roundabout in the outside lane, without signalling at all, then take the third or even the fourth exit (on a five exit roundabout), again without signalling.



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I'm very into cricket and in cricket Middlesex is very much alive. To my mind, it doens't need a county council to exist.


I went to the Oval to watch Surrey v Middlesex in the Twenty20 a couple of seasons ago. The Oval announcer got it right when he said "welcome to the London derby". Wink

You're correct in that a county doesn't need a county council to exist but, to my knowledge, Berkshire is the only county where this is the case. They had to bring in a special act of parliament or something to keep it registered as a county when it got split into unitary authorities.


Fair play. I agree that Middlesex nowadays is entirely Greater London. The thing I get shirty about is that so is a lot of Surrey, Kent and Essex, including the Oval! Actually, I don't get shirty about it at all. I just feel better saying I do :)


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(1) Yellow "Baby on board" signs. What's that supposed to tell me? Generally speaking, there are no babies or small children, so either you're lying or you've lost your child somewhere in a shopping centre. I have, oddly enough, managed to avoid ramming into the car in front of me: normally, it's something I try to avoid. Your sign telling me that you have a child in your family (although rarely in the car at the time) is never going to make me **less** likely to slam into the back of you. Trust me on this. I'll try to avoid it anyway.

(3) to do with English motorway driving particularly. There are three or four lanes on the motorway in South-East England. Use them all!! I've sometimes driven down to Dover thinking I've had my own private lane, driving at the speed limit down the inside lane while there's been huge queues of cars outside me.


Have to completely agree with both statements! Despite my lack of driving, the amount of lifts and travelling in a car means I experience just the same thing, though with point 1, the even worse thing is if they have a "Little Princess On Board" or "Disco Chick on Board" - that's just going to make people want to smack into you more - there is no point whatsoever in having these on, rather than just to prove your an irritating person who loves attention!

Onto public transport now - People who INSIST on playing music from their mobile phones! Buy some headphones and stop subjecting everyone on the bus/train to your awful pathetic (c)rap music - no-one wants to hear it! And at the same time, I DO NOT want to know what your having for tea while your talking incessantly loud to someone who is shouting back at you on the phone. Tone it down, or save the call for later - can you not just wait 10 minutes to make the call? "I'm on the bus" - REALLY? I'd never have guessed!

Ignorant tourists - the people that just stop in the middle of a street and then wonder why you barge past them and say "oh, how rude".

Rail Replacement Buses - Even the title is wrong, they are not replacing a bus! I could do a book on these!

Major connecting roads that go from one town to another WITHOUT providing a footpath of any description. Consequently when your walking on the edge of the road, some bright spark in a car decides to beep you. Erm, if there was a path don't you think I'd be on it instead of risking my life to get somewhere?!

The cost of train fares - Over 100 on the day to get from Leeds/Doncaster to London, that's just scandalous! No wonder so many people drive!

That's all for now, but I don't half feel better Cool



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Tourists, in Pontefract, really? Did they get lost?




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You mean you've never heard of the Pontefract Liquorice Festival?


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Or the Haribo sweet factory tour!



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Burlimey...they must be well high up on the average Japanese bucket list.




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(1) Yellow "Baby on board" signs. What's that supposed to tell me? Generally speaking, there are no babies or small children, so either you're lying or you've lost your child somewhere in a shopping centre. I have, oddly enough, managed to avoid ramming into the car in front of me: normally, it's something I try to avoid. Your sign telling me that you have a child in your family (although rarely in the car at the time) is never going to make me **less** likely to slam into the back of you. Trust me on this. I'll try to avoid it anyway.

(3) to do with English motorway driving particularly. There are three or four lanes on the motorway in South-East England. Use them all!! I've sometimes driven down to Dover thinking I've had my own private lane, driving at the speed limit down the inside lane while there's been huge queues of cars outside me.


Have to completely agree with both statements! Despite my lack of driving, the amount of lifts and travelling in a car means I experience just the same thing, though with point 1, the even worse thing is if they have a "Little Princess On Board" or "Disco Chick on Board" - that's just going to make people want to smack into you more - there is no point whatsoever in having these on, rather than just to prove your an irritating person who loves attention!

Onto public transport now - People who INSIST on playing music from their mobile phones! Buy some headphones and stop subjecting everyone on the bus/train to your awful pathetic (c)rap music - no-one wants to hear it! And at the same time, I DO NOT want to know what your having for tea while your talking incessantly loud to someone who is shouting back at you on the phone. Tone it down, or save the call for later - can you not just wait 10 minutes to make the call? "I'm on the bus" - REALLY? I'd never have guessed!

Ignorant tourists - the people that just stop in the middle of a street and then wonder why you barge past them and say "oh, how rude".

Rail Replacement Buses - Even the title is wrong, they are not replacing a bus! I could do a book on these!

Major connecting roads that go from one town to another WITHOUT providing a footpath of any description. Consequently when your walking on the edge of the road, some bright spark in a car decides to beep you. Erm, if there was a path don't you think I'd be on it instead of risking my life to get somewhere?!

The cost of train fares - Over 100 on the day to get from Leeds/Doncaster to London, that's just scandalous! No wonder so many people drive!

That's all for now, but I don't half feel better Cool

Why is it so much more expensive to go from London to Yorkshire than to get to the North West (and vice-versa)?
I went from Northampton to Manchester on Friday for 33 with no advance booking, to go to Leeds would cost around 70.



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Leeds - Kings Cross 88.60
Doncaster - Kings Cross 74.50

Not over 100 at all

Rail fares and how they are worked out are basically down two two things.
Firstly its market forces. Some fares will be cheaper as they are going to less important places
Secondly it depends on what TOC prices the flow and if they have any competition on the flow in question


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I'll second the rants about train fares. It's the sheer complexity. It's the huge variety of tickets and the variable restrictions about when you can travel. Or can't travel. Or what route you can take. Or can't take.

On a rail-orientated chatsite I frequent, there's a whole forum devoted to ticketing where people try and help numpties like me find the best bargain fares. Like if you're going from Birmingham to Exeter, you need to split your tickets at Cheltenham. Or Gloucester. Or Little Tidworth or somewhere. Or travel after 09:30, but make sure your train doesn't pass through Bristol if there's an R in the month ......

All because of privatisation and TOCs and the like.

Sorry, I grew up in the days of a Cheap Day Return to Liverpool Lime Street, that'll be 15/6, sir. The modern ticketing system is a farce. Mad

And don't get me started on Oyster ...... Frown


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Never buy a return from Reading to Swindon, buy a return from Reading to Oxford and one from Oxford to Swindon, as long as train stops at Didcot you are ok.

Reading - Swindon 25.

Reading - Oxford 7.90

Oxford - Swindon 9.40.


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Never buy a return from Reading to Swindon, buy a return from Reading to Oxford and one from Oxford to Swindon, as long as train stops at Didcot you are ok.

Reading - Swindon 25.

Reading - Oxford 7.90

Oxford - Swindon 9.40.


Why book to Oxford, AC? If your train stops at Didcot, book to Didcot, which is 5.30 from Reading.

I presume you suggest this take advantage of the Network SE Railcard, which isn't valid west of Didcot*. Yet I can't get the National Rail website to apply a discount to Reading-Didcot or Reading-Oxford. I've noted before that tickets from Reading seem particularly expensive, even by Great Western standards.

*In case anyone hasn't cottoned on, if you buy split tickets your train must stop at the 'split' station.


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Unfortunately Dave, Radio 5 has become like a tabloid on radio. Wind up phone ins on sport and current affairs, day and night. Constant wittering over and over again about the same things. If I want news and current affairs now I listen to Radio 4. I gave up on Talk Sport a long time ago, although I did find Hawkesby and Jacobs quite good in the afternoon.



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Stoke to Northampton 14 return (bargain)

Stoke to Bedford 40.20 return (palatable)

Stoke to Stevenage 268!



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Stoke to Northampton 14 return (bargain)

Stoke to Bedford 40.20 return (palatable)

Stoke to Stevenage 268!


Do you mean 68-20 ?
Glad you caught that insect.



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Stoke to Northampton 14 return (bargain)

Stoke to Bedford 40.20 return (palatable)

Stoke to Stevenage 268!


Penzance to Newcastle-upon-Tyne 2nd class open return by train is 466 - I can fly to Melbourne and back for 600!!!


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Off peak return is 68.60 and that is because it goes via London, you get penalised as the railway uses a circuitous route. However an open return is 268, 2nd class!



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So sorry , thought you were doing day returns for games. Not realised you were staying over in Stevenage ?



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Never buy a return from Reading to Swindon, buy a return from Reading to Oxford and one from Oxford to Swindon, as long as train stops at Didcot you are ok.

Reading - Swindon 25.

Reading - Oxford 7.90

Oxford - Swindon 9.40.


Why book to Oxford, AC? If your train stops at Didcot, book to Didcot, which is 5.30 from Reading.

I presume you suggest this take advantage of the Network SE Railcard, which isn't valid west of Didcot*. Yet I can't get the National Rail website to apply a discount to Reading-Didcot or Reading-Oxford. I've noted before that tickets from Reading seem particularly expensive, even by Great Western standards.

*In case anyone hasn't cottoned on, if you buy split tickets your train must stop at the 'split' station.


My mistake, I had not looked up the Didcot price as I was told it was the same as Oxford, which it is for Didcot to Swindon but not for Didcot to Reading. How can Oxford to Swindon return be the same as Didcot to Swindon return when Didcot is almost halfway to Swindon ?.

On the Network card there is a minimum price for weekdays, 10 ish ?.

14.70 against 25.00.

I'll give you

Oxford to Swindon 9.40 return
Swindon to Cardiff 17.90 return

Oxford to Cardiff 49.00 return

same prices pro-rata anywhere in South Wales.


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Tourists to Pontefract:

I wnt to Wakefield v. Curzon Ashton last Friday. Before the game I got the bus to Pontefract & took photos of Pontefract Collieries ground, and a few on the way back to the bus station in the town centre. Does that qualify me as a tourist? ;-)



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Never buy a return from Reading to Swindon, buy a return from Reading to Oxford and one from Oxford to Swindon, as long as train stops at Didcot you are ok.

Reading - Swindon 25.

Reading - Oxford 7.90

Oxford - Swindon 9.40.


Why book to Oxford, AC? If your train stops at Didcot, book to Didcot, which is 5.30 from Reading.

I presume you suggest this take advantage of the Network SE Railcard, which isn't valid west of Didcot*. Yet I can't get the National Rail website to apply a discount to Reading-Didcot or Reading-Oxford. I've noted before that tickets from Reading seem particularly expensive, even by Great Western standards.

*In case anyone hasn't cottoned on, if you buy split tickets your train must stop at the 'split' station.


My mistake, I had not looked up the Didcot price as I was told it was the same as Oxford, which it is for Didcot to Swindon but not for Didcot to Reading. How can Oxford to Swindon return be the same as Didcot to Swindon return when Didcot is almost halfway to Swindon ?.

On the Network card there is a minimum price for weekdays, 10 ish ?.

14.70 against 25.00.

I'll give you

Oxford to Swindon 9.40 return
Swindon to Cardiff 17.90 return

Oxford to Cardiff 49.00 return

same prices pro-rata anywhere in South Wales.




The minimum price for a Network Card (Monday-Friday) is now 13.

If you are going to any station outside the Network Card area it works out cheaper to buy ticket to the last station in the area (provided that the train stops there) thus getting a discount and then the normal fare from there to your final destination.


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Stoke to Northampton 14 return (bargain)

Stoke to Bedford 40.20 return (palatable)

Stoke to Stevenage 268!


Penzance to Newcastle-upon-Tyne 2nd class open return by train is 466 - I can fly to Melbourne and back for 600!!!

Damn! I thought a West Midlands Day Ranger at 20 was the cheapest way to get to Stoke.Unimpressed



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Unfortunately Dave, Radio 5 has become like a tabloid on radio. Wind up phone ins on sport and current affairs, day and night. Constant wittering over and over again about the same things. If I want news and current affairs now I listen to Radio 4. I gave up on Talk Sport a long time ago, although I did find Hawkesby and Jacobs quite good in the afternoon.


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Why is it so much more expensive to go from London to Yorkshire than to get to the North West (and vice-versa)?
I went from Northampton to Manchester on Friday for 33 with no advance booking, to go to Leeds would cost around 70.



Villahopper has given the answer 'Some fares will be cheaper as they are going to less important places'


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Fare things are strange.

Travelling from London to Managua. First checked flights from London to Miami, travelling World Traveller Plus (well, I'm getting on...). 650 a head, each way. Then checked flights from London to Managua, via Miami (still WT plus on the BA leg)... 551 a head. That's London-Miami-Managua. So my recommendation would be, if you're planning to travel to Miami this summer, book an onward leg to somewhere on American Airlines and just throw the onward bit away.

Never been able to understand airline fares and fare sections. I once found myself having to change a Hong Kong to London Flight (economy obviously, company were cheapskates) to Hong Kong-Singapore (stop for a couple of days)-London. Turned out that HK-Sing-Lond would have cost more in economy, but was cheaper in business class. Only an extra 30 over original fare. Go figure.


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Why is it so much more expensive to go from London to Yorkshire than to get to the North West (and vice-versa)?
I went from Northampton to Manchester on Friday for 33 with no advance booking, to go to Leeds would cost around 70.



Villahopper has given the answer 'Some fares will be cheaper as they are going to less important places'

Didn't realise that Manchester is less important than Leeds!



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I can't answer that one, but a lot of it makes sense if you know enough travel geeks. With planes its all about getting them in the right place for the flights which do make money. I paid 25 for Newcastle to Monastir (Tunisia) last September. The plane had to go out to collect the last lot of all-inclusives and, as they had to fly it out anyway, they may as well sell a few tickets cheap. Most people wouldn't do it because there isn't a flight back but if you like trekking around like I do that's no problem. You end up picking up another cheapo and having lots of fun in between!


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Why is it so much more expensive to go from London to Yorkshire than to get to the North West (and vice-versa)?
I went from Northampton to Manchester on Friday for 33 with no advance booking, to go to Leeds would cost around 70.



Villahopper has given the answer 'Some fares will be cheaper as they are going to less important places'

Didn't realise that Manchester is less important than Leeds!


Of course it is - Leeds is in Yorkshire !!


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.... We don't call Hampshire 'Wessex' anymore ....


I take it you have no time for Wessex revivalists. Wink

They're agreed that Wessex includes Berkshire, Devon, Dorset, Hampshire, Somerset and Wiltshire. and are moving towards a consensus to include Oxfordshire and Gloucestershire, but to exclude Cornwall.



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I take it you have no time for Wessex revivalists. Wink

They're agreed that Wessex includes Berkshire, Devon, Dorset, Hampshire, Somerset and Wiltshire. and are moving towards a consensus to include Oxfordshire and Gloucestershire, but to exclude Cornwall.



With Oxfordshire and Gloucestershire I am sure parts were in Wessex at some time, but other parts were in Mercia. I think the Thames tended to be the boundary, though in the days of Wessex and Mercia the Thames was not some much a river but a wide area of marshland. Wantage which used to be Berkshire but is now Oxfordshire is reputed to be the birth place of King Alfred, on the other hand St Frideswide the the patron Saint of Oxford (that may be unofficial) was the daughter of the Mercian King. Not sure but was it around that time that there was an Earldom of Warwick (looked it up and the Earls of Warwick covers a vast time span), which was based on Warwick Castle and included much of Oxfordshire - a number of pubs and associations still have the Bear and Ragged Staff as their crest / badge.


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Unfortunately Dave, Radio 5 has become like a tabloid on radio. Wind up phone ins on sport and current affairs, day and night. Constant wittering over and over again about the same things. If I want news and current affairs now I listen to Radio 4. I gave up on Talk Sport a long time ago, although I did find Hawkesby and Jacobs quite good in the afternoon.


I used to listen to Radio 5 more than now. Radio 4 could be a bit earnest and worthy at times, so 5 offered a bit of relief. Not any more. It has some of the worst programmes to be heard anywhere on national radio (excluding Radio 1, which is for cabbages). Trivial beyond belief (as witlessly so as local radio), the very worst are on Saturday and Sunday mornings between 9 and 12. Danny Baker may have gone for now but his recent effort was desperately poor stuff. Fighting Talk is an embarrassment (someone please silence Colin Murray), with its participants shouting at one another like drunks in a pub and 'laughing' endlessly in that excruciating 'hur, hur, hur' manner. The Sunday morning political magazines are hardly any better, being devoid of any real analysis of anything and with the contributors continually talking across one another. They think they are being incisive and satirical but they merely insult their subjects and our intelligence.

Add to this the appalling diction and grammar of the majority of the presenters, gabbling away at 300 words per minute, and Radio 5's only useful purpose now is for a quick news and sports summary on the hour.

Ghastly.


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.... We don't call Hampshire 'Wessex' anymore ....


I take it you have no time for Wessex revivalists. Wink

They're agreed that Wessex includes Berkshire, Devon, Dorset, Hampshire, Somerset and Wiltshire. and are moving towards a consensus to include Oxfordshire and Gloucestershire, but to exclude Cornwall.


Oh my life. What's wrong with people?
I've just had a look at the Wiki page you linked to. it says "There is a movement in modern day south-central England to create a regional cultural and political identity in Wessex."

That's news to me. I've lived in 'south-central England' all my life and never heard this nonsense before. Is it because I'm from just over the border so all talk of reviving Wessex stops at Blackwater?
I can't see why they should stop at the current Hampshire/Surrey border though as my part of Surrey was officially absorbed by Wessex after they defeated the Mercians in 825.
If people really haven't got anything better to do than try to recreate a medieval kingdom then I can only pity them.


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... I've just had a look at the Wiki page you linked to. it says "There is a movement in modern day south-central England to create a regional cultural and political identity in Wessex."

.... If people really haven't got anything better to do than try to recreate a medieval kingdom then I can only pity them.


It goes on to state that "The Wessex Society is a cultural society which promotes a cultural identity for Wessex while remaining neutral on questions of political devolution."

I wonder in what way Wessex culture was distinctively different from that of the rest of medieval Britain.

Or perhaps we are just cultural philistines.



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... I've just had a look at the Wiki page you linked to. it says "There is a movement in modern day south-central England to create a regional cultural and political identity in Wessex."

.... If people really haven't got anything better to do than try to recreate a medieval kingdom then I can only pity them.


It goes on to state that "The Wessex Society is a cultural society which promotes a cultural identity for Wessex while remaining neutral on questions of political devolution."

I wonder in what way Wessex culture was distinctively different from that of the rest of medieval Britain.

Or perhaps we are just cultural philistines.



Some bloke from the society sends letters to our local paper and everything is Wessex related, a recent one was it's nice to see the Wessex car industry thriving in Oxford. He comes from Weston Super Mare.

There is also a Mercian society based (I think) in Tamworth, they have a flag.

Maybe we will have battles between them to see who "controls" the Cotswolds, St Frideswide v King Alfred.


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........... St Frideswide v King Alfred.


Yes, but are they going to issue? I'm not going unless they are .... Wink


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Well it sort of was, but only 1100 or more years ago. According to my Ladybird book, the rest of Britain was basically under the Danes (cue historically inaccurate pictures of horned helmets), whereas Wessex held out, under Alfred (cue picture of him sitting at his mother's knee, learning to read, but unfortunately not well enough to read the cooking instructions for cakes). He built a navy too, which I'm sure would be news to Wessex revivalists in Wiltshire. Not much use for a navy there, I reckon. Oh, and according to the same Ladybird book, he also put lines on candles so he could tell the time... would have helped in not burning the cakes, then...


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Pointless things BEARDS what are the point, also why does everybody say The Arsenal no one else says the Chelsea The Wigan etc


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mainly because Chel or Wig are not bodily orifices.


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Clubs who print away wins as defeats in their programmes.
ie winning away constitutes being recorded as 1-2
It is not, it is wrong.
Doesn't matter if it was home, away or on the moon... your score always first.
I thank you.




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Too bloody right, Don! It's an odd habit which appears to have sprung up quite recently; the format also appears on some websites.


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Apart from annoying the shit out of me, it is so hard to work out - not hard per se - but just
a pain in the butt when trying to work out a club's stats.




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Two things are bugging me at the moment

a) Postings on message boards, forums, emails etc. without the use of capital letters. The "Shift" key is there, please use it properly!

b) The prevalance of the word "of" instead of the correct "have" in phrases like "I would of done that" or "He should of scored from there"

Rant over.

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I bat for the 'Eats, Shoots and Leaves' brigade too, but you have to take
forums for what they are.... not an Oxford University debating society.
(I can hear an early FA Cup finalists' thread racing over the hill).




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The thing that really annoys me at the moment is collaboration records with female R & B artists and rappers.
I quite like R & B but absolutely loathe Rap or Hip Hop.
A fine example is 'I need a doctor' by Dr.Dre and featuring some girl with a great voice.
Why can't these obnoxious individuals make records on their own and let the proper singers do the same.
I remember the 'golden days' of Gangsta Rap when the rappers were much more interested in killing each other than in actually making any of their dreadful records.
'Guns don't kill people rappers do' as someone once sang.



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I may well be fast approaching my Diamond Jubilee, but my feet
and other bits have got tapping to a band called GangstaGrass.
Theme music to the Justified series.
Bluegrass and Rap.... it just kinda works.




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Hope you're not a scrabble afficionado, as both "innit" and "grrl", amongst others have now been accepted as official words.

If only "xqkjz" had also been accepted as a word, I might have cleaned up at a stroke. Particularly as it fell on a triple word score.


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Hope you're not a Scrabble afficionado, as both "innit" and "grrl", amongst others have now been accepted as official words..


Must have been infiltrated by the BBC...


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Thank you for silently capitalising "scrabble", which obviously I should have done in the first place. Now, I only hope that no-one else has noticed.


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None of us take to change too well when it happens during our life time.
No doubt in a hundred years' time, 'innit' will be bastardized and there will be
a mass outpouring of horror from the Oxford Dons - or will that be Doners?
Go back say 150 years and read the original transcripts of Dickens and fast forward
to Conan Doyle and John Buchan and their works can be mind-numbing at times.




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That's all very well, but I'm not sure my opponent is prepared to wait 100 years before Collins say I can play "xkqjz" on the triple word score. A word in the (admittedly fabricated) Klingon language, which refers to the feeling of puzzlement one experiences when catching sight through the corner of your eye of two people playing Scrabble for money, one of whom has only vowels available, the other only consonants. Not to be confused with the Romulan "xjkzq", which is just plain rude, and has no place in polite society.


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And I thought I was the only person who could speak fluent Bollocks on here... Tongue




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Andrelux
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I know. Klingon case endings can be particularly tricky, since they don't always match onto human ones. The example that I gave broadly corresponded to the locative (no movement involved), but the real case has no direct equivalent and should best be described as "I haven't gone anywhere, I am puzzled, and I haven't recently ripped someone's throat out" when I performed this action. Hence the final "z". If I had recently killed someone, then obviously the final letter should be a "p". Interestingly, all of x, j, k, p, z and q are vowels in Klingon. So a bit like Dutch, or maybe Welsh.


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Hope you're not a scrabble afficionado, as both "innit" and "grrl", amongst others have now been accepted as official words.

If only "xqkjz" had also been accepted as a word, I might have cleaned up at a stroke. Particularly as it fell on a triple word score.

I was first made aware of 'innit' when used by the Harry Enfield character Stavros.
It seems though that it actually a word used mainly by the Asian community. I used to work with an Asian lady from a wealthy background who used the word at the end of half her sentences.
The word seems to be related to the Welsh expression 'Isn't it'. The London equivalent is 'Like' or 'Know what I mean' and the Irish 'So it is'.
All meaningless ends to sentences,most of which sound like questions, but aren't.



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The thing that really annoys me at the moment is collaboration records with female R & B artists and rappers.
I quite like R & B but absolutely loathe Rap or Hip Hop.
A fine example is 'I need a doctor' by Dr.Dre and featuring some girl with a great voice.
Why can't these obnoxious individuals make records on their own and let the proper singers do the same.
I remember the 'golden days' of Gangsta Rap when the rappers were much more interested in killing each other than in actually making any of their dreadful records.
'Guns don't kill people rappers do' as someone once sang.


That'll be Goldie Lookin Chain.


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Hope you're not a scrabble afficionado, as both "innit" and "grrl", amongst others have now been accepted as official words.

If only "xqkjz" had also been accepted as a word, I might have cleaned up at a stroke. Particularly as it fell on a triple word score.

I was first made aware of 'innit' when used by the Harry Enfield character Stavros.
It seems though that it actually a word used mainly by the Asian community. I used to work with an Asian lady from a wealthy background who used the word at the end of half her sentences.
The word seems to be related to the Welsh expression 'Isn't it'. The London equivalent is 'Like' or 'Know what I mean' and the Irish 'So it is'.
All meaningless ends to sentences,most of which sound like questions, but aren't.



Around here it's "you know"


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Manish Bhasin and Mark Clemmitt.

Cannot stand either of them, thank God for Sky Sports!



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CCTV..why is it so shit? Every time an image grab appears in the
press, it looks like the result of a five-year-old having been let loose
with a Box Brownie (it is a camera for the benefit of the under 30s,
and not a calorific chocolate bar).
And what is the point of having them stuck up in the air when you
can hardly see the faces of any miscreants - let alone identify them?
Surely we have the technology to reduce them to the size of an ipod
and locate them discreetly at ground level and upgrade with the technology
that will stand up in a court of law?
Rant over....there will be another about 6pm on Friday evening.




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I walked half a mile to my local shops this morning, I was nearly knocked down three times. A bike with a young lady was riding at about 20mph on the pavement, she had earphones in, she had to take avoiding action at the last minute and rode onto the road in front of a car. Two hundreds yards later I was crossing a sideroad a car suddenly turned off of the main road and stopped a couple of feet from me, it had no indicator going. 100 yards later I was crossing another side road and a Taxi turned into it via a staggered junction on the wrong side of the road again with no indicator. A lady with her shopping trolley was also crossing at the same time, she just looked at the taxi and said "you arsehole were's your indicator", she looked and me and said sorry for my bad language.


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People that post comments on here but have disabled the PM function so that the only way you can have a rant at them is in the public forum which means you get banned. There's only one word for it. Cowardice.



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People that post comments on here but have disabled the PM function so that the only way you can have a rant at them is in the public forum which means you get banned. There's only one word for it. Cowardice.







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Pointless things BEARDS what are the point, also why does everybody say The Arsenal no one else says the Chelsea The Wigan etc


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Cyclists on pavements

People who fail to indicate, especially on roundabouts

People who sit virtually up to your bumper at night with their lights on full beam.

Drivers who refuse to move into the second lane when you're joining an A-road or motorway when there's nothing outside them forcing you to brake.

Stroppy teenagers who cross the road without looking and then look at you with indignation as if it's you that's in the wrong.

Kids on bikes riding on the right hand side of the road (a common sight in Clacton).

Horses on the road, particularly when the horse has a dump and the riders leave it there in the road or even sometimes on the pavement. If dog owners have to clear up after their animals why are horse riders allowed to get away with it?

Shopping (unless it's for beer, books or music).

Chris Evans

Schools that send the kids home the moment they see a snowflake.

Politicians

God botherers

My girls when they leave their crap around the house. For example, shoes left on the floor instead of being placed in the shoe rack, makeup smeared around the bathroom sink because they couldn't spend 10 seconds rinsing it away, unwashed cups and plates left for others to clear away (we DO have a dishwasher!), handbags, hairbrushes, hair clips, nail varnish remover, cans of hairspray and sundry other 'girlie' items that are rarely if ever returned to their correct place.

People who don't look where they're going.

People who stand chatting in a supermarket blocking up the whole aisle.

Seagulls

Pigeons

Halloween

Fireworks night

People who are regularly late.

Club secretaries of clubs at step 6 and above who are uncontactable on the morning of a game.

Non disabled people who park in disabled bays.

So called 'professionals' who are anything but. For example some of the useless social workers we've encountered over the years (our current one is very good and despairs at some of her colleagues' attitudes and lack of work ethic).

Cilla Black

The Brady Bunch

Fashion victims

Bernie Clifton

Des O' Conner

Max Bygraves

Text Speak

Take That

Justin Bieber



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Been on Jury service three times, and done five cases. One of the times I was on a Jury, the prosecution's main evidence came from CCTV. As you say it's rubbish. Just seemed to be random pictures. So all of the relevant evidence just turned out to be hearsay, since CCTV footage proved nothing.

That was the case with the most fun in the jury room I've ever had, as we tried to establish whether the facts of the case were possible: "So he held him from behind, and he got smacked in the face?" "Impossible, grab me from behind and I'll try and hit you hard... see I can't". "No, I'll do it to you, and I'll show you how you can drop and get leverage.... oh, sorry, didn't mean to follow through, did that hurt?". There was far more violence in that jury room than probably in the case being tried.

Worst was a kiddy-fiddling case. Obviously no CCTV, just one person's word against another. Easiest was a burglary case, which we decided within 5 minutes, on the basis that the alternative was having to pay for and eat the sandwiches they offered you.


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Cyclists on pavements

People who fail to indicate, especially on roundabouts

People who sit virtually up to your bumper at night with their lights on full beam.

Drivers who refuse to move into the second lane when you're joining an A-road or motorway when there's nothing outside them forcing you to brake.

Stroppy teenagers who cross the road without looking and then look at you with indignation as if it's you that's in the wrong.

Kids on bikes riding on the right hand side of the road (a common sight in Clacton).

Horses on the road, particularly when the horse has a dump and the riders leave it there in the road or even sometimes on the pavement. If dog owners have to clear up after their animals why are horse riders allowed to get away with it?

Shopping (unless it's for beer, books or music).

Chris Evans

Schools that send the kids home the moment they see a snowflake.

Politicians

God botherers

My girls when they leave their crap around the house. For example, shoes left on the floor instead of being placed in the shoe rack, makeup smeared around the bathroom sink because they couldn't spend 10 seconds rinsing it away, unwashed cups and plates left for others to clear away (we DO have a dishwasher!), handbags, hairbrushes, hair clips, nail varnish remover, cans of hairspray and sundry other 'girlie' items that are rarely if ever returned to their correct place.

People who don't look where they're going.

People who stand chatting in a supermarket blocking up the whole aisle.

Seagulls

Pigeons

Halloween

Fireworks night

People who are regularly late.

Club secretaries of clubs at step 6 and above who are uncontactable on the morning of a game.

Non disabled people who park in disabled bays.

So called 'professionals' who are anything but. For example some of the useless social workers we've encountered over the years (our current one is very good and despairs at some of her colleagues' attitudes and lack of work ethic).

Cilla Black

The Brady Bunch

Fashion victims

Bernie Clifton

Des O' Conner

Max Bygraves

Text Speak

Take That

Justin Bieber


I bet you're a bundle of fun at a party...




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Andrelux
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I actually agree with each and every one of those.

Although I don't know who Justin Bieber is.

I also have several others, although best not mention them as I'd be even less likely to be invited to parties...

Except just one: people using mobile phones in the quiet carriage on trains. I can't smoke anywhere on a train... so please desist from telling the whole carriage about your personal problems at 95 decibels in the one carriage we use to avoid having to hear it.


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Me neither (Justin Beiber). I shall give the subject matter
some deep thought and come up with a list soon(ish).
One good thing about the French (there are more, I quite
like them as a race personally) is that they generally
adhere to 'quiet carriages' on the TGV.
Five minute stops at Avignon, Valence et al normally sees
half the train decamp to the platform for a fag...heaven Cool.




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Pointless things BEARDS what are the point, also why does everybody say The Arsenal no one else says the Chelsea The Wigan etc


Possibly because Arsenal is also a noun,meaning a place where weapons are produced or stored. Chelsea and Wigan are proper nouns only.



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My girls when they leave their crap around the house. For example, shoes left on the floor instead of being placed in the shoe rack,


You have a "shoe rack"???



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Although I don't know who Justin Bieber is.


He's slightly more talented than Jedward.

Then again, so is a dead pigeon.



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My girls when they leave their crap around the house. For example, shoes left on the floor instead of being placed in the shoe rack,


You have a "shoe rack"???


We have two...then again I thought everyone had?
If I throw our gardener into the mix, does than make
me really pretentious? Tongue




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My girls when they leave their crap around the house. For example, shoes left on the floor instead of being placed in the shoe rack,


You have a "shoe rack"???


We have two...then again I thought everyone had?
If I throw our gardener into the mix, does than make
me really pretentious? Tongue


Only if it's concrete mix.

Personally, I've got a chair which I keep my shoes under! No need for a special rack!



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hours down. Bloody nerve, he will be wanting the minimum wage next.




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I walked half a mile to my local shops this morning, I was nearly knocked down three times. A bike with a young lady was riding at about 20mph on the pavement, she had earphones in, she had to take avoiding action at the last minute and rode onto the road in front of a car. Two hundreds yards later I was crossing a sideroad a car suddenly turned off of the main road and stopped a couple of feet from me, it had no indicator going. 100 yards later I was crossing another side road and a Taxi turned into it via a staggered junction on the wrong side of the road again with no indicator. A lady with her shopping trolley was also crossing at the same time, she just looked at the taxi and said "you arsehole were's your indicator", she looked and me and said sorry for my bad language.



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My girls when they leave their crap around the house. For example, shoes left on the floor instead of being placed in the shoe rack,


You have a "shoe rack"???


We have two...then again I thought everyone had?
If I throw our gardener into the mix, does than make
me really pretentious? Tongue


Only if it's concrete mix.

Personally, I've got a chair which I keep my shoes under! No need for a special rack!

You would have if you had a partner and three daughters in the house. My 16 year old in particular is a nightmare. Where shoes are concerned she is the Imelda Marcos of Clacton, I kid you not!!

She has an ottoman in her bedroom almost full to the brim with shoes. Even her calendar is one with multiple pictures of shoes on each page. And don't get me started on the amount of clothes she's got! Unsure

And that's why we have a shoe rack. Smile



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I walked half a mile to my local shops this morning, I was nearly knocked down three times. A bike with a young lady was riding at about 20mph on the pavement, she had earphones in, she had to take avoiding action at the last minute and rode onto the road in front of a car. Two hundreds yards later I was crossing a sideroad a car suddenly turned off of the main road and stopped a couple of feet from me, it had no indicator going. 100 yards later I was crossing another side road and a Taxi turned into it via a staggered junction on the wrong side of the road again with no indicator. A lady with her shopping trolley was also crossing at the same time, she just looked at the taxi and said "you arsehole were's your indicator", she looked and me and said sorry for my bad language.



Maybe they should treat you as a roundabout; get appropriate signage is my advice Cool



They would drive straight over the top of me.


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Cyclists on pavements

People who fail to indicate, especially on roundabouts

People who sit virtually up to your bumper at night with their lights on full beam.

Drivers who refuse to move into the second lane when you're joining an A-road or motorway when there's nothing outside them forcing you to brake.

Stroppy teenagers who cross the road without looking and then look at you with indignation as if it's you that's in the wrong.

Kids on bikes riding on the right hand side of the road (a common sight in Clacton).

Horses on the road, particularly when the horse has a dump and the riders leave it there in the road or even sometimes on the pavement. If dog owners have to clear up after their animals why are horse riders allowed to get away with it?

Shopping (unless it's for beer, books or music).

Chris Evans

Schools that send the kids home the moment they see a snowflake.

Politicians

God botherers

My girls when they leave their crap around the house. For example, shoes left on the floor instead of being placed in the shoe rack, makeup smeared around the bathroom sink because they couldn't spend 10 seconds rinsing it away, unwashed cups and plates left for others to clear away (we DO have a dishwasher!), handbags, hairbrushes, hair clips, nail varnish remover, cans of hairspray and sundry other 'girlie' items that are rarely if ever returned to their correct place.

People who don't look where they're going.

People who stand chatting in a supermarket blocking up the whole aisle.

Seagulls

Pigeons

Halloween

Fireworks night

People who are regularly late.

Club secretaries of clubs at step 6 and above who are uncontactable on the morning of a game.

Non disabled people who park in disabled bays.

So called 'professionals' who are anything but. For example some of the useless social workers we've encountered over the years (our current one is very good and despairs at some of her colleagues' attitudes and lack of work ethic).

Cilla Black

The Brady Bunch

Fashion victims

Bernie Clifton

Des O' Conner

Max Bygraves

Text Speak

Take That

Justin Bieber





I'd go along with many of those...................drivers that fail to indicate! I mean how much effort does it take to flick an indicator stick one way or the other to let everybody else know what the hell they are doing???????Unsure


Same with drivers hogging the middle lane forcing everyone else to undertake them, and when you hoot or flash them they look totally bewildered as to what they've done wrong!

Drivers illegally using mobile phones when they're driving..............they deserve at very least a six month ban!

I know just what you mean about daughters.................and when they grow up and become women they're even more trouble!

PA announcers who say "I'll just run quickly through the two teams" and do just that................if they are not going to read them out s-l-o-w-l-y enough so people can amend their programmes then what exactly is the point????????????

I'd agree about non disabled people using disabled parking bays (except in the evenings when they're all empty anyway) but I strongly object to 'parent & child bays', why the hell should they get priority over everybody else?


Fireworks...............they should be banned!

Trolls.......................likewise!

Most H&S regulations................which fly in the face of commom sense!

The EU..................don't get me started on themMad


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One thing that really annoys me is people casually and habitually hitting the button at a pedestrian crossing when they don't need to.

Frequently I have seen a pedestrian crossing a fair way ahead of me, no car behind me, no car in front, no cars on the other side coming in the other direction, yet the person standing at the pedestrian crossing feels the impulsive need to hit the button and unnecessarily stop my car!!!! By the time i'm there, they've long since crossed and I'm sat at a red light for NO REASON!

Why don't people, when they arrive at the crossing, assess the situation and decide whether they actually need the lights to go red to enable them to cross, or whether they can do it without stopping the traffic. I swear some people have lost the ability to cross a road without assistance from traffic lights!!!!


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On this very subject I get annoyed about pressing the button and waiting an eternity for the green man, all the more so if it's raining at the time.

By the time it eventually changes most people have made a dash for it anyway and the traffic is needlessly bought to a stop, crazy!


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I know just what you mean about daughters.................and when they grow up and become women they're even more trouble!

I know, my eldest is 21. The others are 16 and 14. Unsure



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and when they grow up and become women they're even more trouble!

Must have been reading a couple of Central Midland League reports on this forum.


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and when they grow up and become women they're even more trouble!

Must have been reading a couple of Central Midland League reports on this forum.

What have I missed? I don't s'pose you've got a link have you Andy? Cool



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One thing that really annoys me is people casually and habitually hitting the button at a pedestrian crossing when they don't need to.

Frequently I have seen a pedestrian crossing a fair way ahead of me, no car behind me, no car in front, no cars on the other side coming in the other direction, yet the person standing at the pedestrian crossing feels the impulsive need to hit the button and unnecessarily stop my car!!!! By the time i'm there, they've long since crossed and I'm sat at a red light for NO REASON!

Why don't people, when they arrive at the crossing, assess the situation and decide whether they actually need the lights to go red to enable them to cross, or whether they can do it without stopping the traffic. I swear some people have lost the ability to cross a road without assistance from traffic lights!!!!


When I lived in Reading I counted myself lucky if drivers stopped when the lights were against them. You most definitely would not want to 'assess the situation' and then find yourself in the path of some maniac doing 60mph in a 30 mph zone.


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People who press both the up and the down button on a lift, without realising that if you press "up" the lift is going that way, and if you press "down" then so it will too.

The Daily Express et al, who seem incapable or deliberately unwilling to make the difference between various European institutions, and consider them all to be the spawn of the devil.

Let's just remind ourselves: The European Court of Human Rights, is an adjunct of the Council of Europe, which was proposed by Winston Churchill, amongst others, and set up in 1949, long before the EU or its predecessors. Even the most UKIP of people would have to feel that Winston was onside.

Nothing to do with the European Union, of which Britain are also members. Leaving the Council of Europe would mean joining Belarus, Kazakhstan (both barred because of human rights violations), and the Vatican City (because it's a theocracy). Way to go!!!!

And when we talk about all these European Judges, (by definition foreigners) deciding our fate: well, there are British judges there too.


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People who press both the up and the down button on a lift, without realising that if you press "up" the lift is going that way, and if you press "down" then so it will too.

The Daily Express et al, who seem incapable or deliberately unwilling to make the difference between various European institutions, and consider them all to be the spawn of the devil.

Let's just remind ourselves: The European Court of Human Rights, is an adjunct of the Council of Europe, which was proposed by Winston Churchill, amongst others, and set up in 1949, long before the EU or its predecessors. Even the most UKIP of people would have to feel that Winston was onside.

Nothing to do with the European Union, of which Britain are also members. Leaving the Council of Europe would mean joining Belarus, Kazakhstan (both barred because of human rights violations), and the Vatican City (because it's a theocracy). Way to go!!!!

And when we talk about all these European Judges, (by definition foreigners) deciding our fate: well, there are British judges there too.


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and when they grow up and become women they're even more trouble!

Must have been reading a couple of Central Midland League reports on this forum.

What have I missed? I don't s'pose you've got a link have you Andy? Cool



If reports on this board are true a "Lady" was removed from Easington's game on Saturday, the same "Lady" did not pay to go into a Hop game and watched it from the pavement. This "Lady" has never been seen wearing a skirt.


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and when they grow up and become women they're even more trouble!

Must have been reading a couple of Central Midland League reports on this forum.

What have I missed? I don't s'pose you've got a link have you Andy? Cool



If reports on this board are true a "Lady" was removed from Easington's game on Saturday, the same "Lady" did not pay to go into a Hop game and watched it from the pavement. This "Lady" has never been seen wearing a skirt.

Ah yes, the penny has dropped now. Thanks mate. Cool



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Coventry, Wolverhampton and West Bromwich automatically known as "Birmingham" - they are not! They are seperate towns and better run than the shithole of Birmingham I live in.


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A few more (many of which are linked) as I'm feeling tetchy at the moment:

People at work who don't read e-mails - usually identifiable by having hundreds of unread ones in their inbox. Much of what I do relies on input or responses from colleagues, and when those select few just don't reply it holds everything up, sometimes for months.

The campaign to bring back weekly bin collections

People who believe conspiracy theories (this includes my dad, who based on some newspaper reports is convinced that it isn't worth putting anything in his blue bin "because it's all put in landfill anyway")

Pretty much all newspapers. The Times used to be one of the few I could stand reading, but there are increasing signs that the political views of its owners are more now important than facts. News International are a very disturbing entity - I recently found out that apparently they forced Cameron to sack Dominic Grieve for having the nerve to tell the truth and have a go at them for stoking the fear of crime.

Sky - who will let you upgrade and buy more services online, but force you to call one of their non-free phone numbers if you want to remove anything from your package.

Ryanair - recently forced me to pay for oversized luggage despite it being within their limits, then telling me that I could only complain via letter or fax, only for them to respond by e-mail (although totally failing to address anything I said in the letter), but saying I couldn't reply to their e-mail!

People who don't know how to queue (Germans and Israelis for a start)


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Sky full stop is an annoyance. They keep overcharging, and the sports channels are just Man Utd games being shown. On top of that...endless repeats, especially on SKY1 where an episode of "The Simpsons" you saw last week, could be shown about three days later! I'm all for a digital revolution, but surely there is no need to a) charge for it and b) offer a bit more choice.

I ditched it in February....got a Freesat box in the front room for 30.00 with our built-in Freeview TV which was a gift from my brother in law, the SKY box with the free channels only in the backroom, and a Freeview box in the spare room. I sold the SKY HD box on EBay for a tidy sum ;)

It's saved me 70.00 a month easily Laugh



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Pointless things BEARDS what are the point, also why does everybody say The Arsenal no one else says the Chelsea The Wigan etc


Possibly because Arsenal is also a noun,meaning a place where weapons are produced or stored. Chelsea and Wigan are proper nouns only.


Also because The Arsenal was actually the name at one point.


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Sky full stop is an annoyance. They keep overcharging, and the sports channels are just Man Utd games being shown. On top of that...endless repeats, especially on SKY1 where an episode of "The Simpsons" you saw last week, could be shown about three days later! I'm all for a digital revolution, but surely there is no need to a) charge for it and b) offer a bit more choice.

I ditched it in February....got a Freesat box in the front room for 30.00 with our built-in Freeview TV which was a gift from my brother in law, the SKY box with the free channels only in the backroom, and a Freeview box in the spare room. I sold the SKY HD box on EBay for a tidy sum ;)

It's saved me 70.00 a month easily Laugh

Although our monthly charge is only around 45, I will cancel it the moment my housemate moves out as he is the only one who watches any of it.


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Coventry, Wolverhampton and West Bromwich automatically known as "Birmingham" - they are not! They are seperate towns and better run than the shithole of Birmingham I live in.

Isn't West Bromwich part of Sandwell? And surely Coventry and Wolverhampton are cities.
I have my pedants hat on today.Smile



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The campaign to bring back weekly bin collections.

We had a campaign round here to keep our weekly collections when the Tories wanted us to change to fortnightly. We won, although we know it won't last.

News International are a very disturbing entity

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Sky - who will let you upgrade and buy more services online, but force you to call one of their non-free phone numbers if you want to remove anything from your package.

I wouldn't touch Sky with someome else's. And the sooner the EU break their monopoly on what we're allowed to watch the better.




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A few more (many of which are linked) as I'm feeling tetchy at the moment:

People at work who don't read e-mails - usually identifiable by having hundreds of unread ones in their inbox. Much of what I do relies on input or responses from colleagues, and when those select few just don't reply it holds everything up, sometimes for months.

The campaign to bring back weekly bin collections

People who believe conspiracy theories (this includes my dad, who based on some newspaper reports is convinced that it isn't worth putting anything in his blue bin "because it's all put in landfill anyway")

Pretty much all newspapers. The Times used to be one of the few I could stand reading, but there are increasing signs that the political views of its owners are more now important than facts. News International are a very disturbing entity - I recently found out that apparently they forced Cameron to sack Dominic Grieve for having the nerve to tell the truth and have a go at them for stoking the fear of crime.

Sky - who will let you upgrade and buy more services online, but force you to call one of their non-free phone numbers if you want to remove anything from your package.

Ryanair - recently forced me to pay for oversized luggage despite it being within their limits, then telling me that I could only complain via letter or fax, only for them to respond by e-mail (although totally failing to address anything I said in the letter), but saying I couldn't reply to their e-mail!

People who don't know how to queue (Germans and Israelis for a start)




Also Ryanair for trying to get some cheap publicity from the volcanic ash problem!

Queueing for buses (certainly in London) seems to have become a thing of the past.


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Queueing for buses (certainly in London) seems to have become a thing of the past.



Queueing seems to have come a thing of the past.


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Sky full stop is an annoyance.

Sky are a bunch of bastards. I realised a few years back I was paying for football and films that I was never watching. I more-or-less had to tell them I had a terminal disease in order to get them to cancel my subscription and get them off my back. Even then I was pretty much told I was an idiot for wanting to give up their wonderful service. I seem to be getting by ok now though with my Freesat service. God bless free high definition. One more thing that really winds me up is people who have to finish EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE with an upwards inflection, or whatever it's called, like everything they say is a question. Never noticed it a few years back but it sems to be pretty common nowadays.


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One more thing that really winds me up is people who have to finish EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE with an upwards inflection, or whatever it's called, like everything they say is a question. Never noticed it a few years back but it sems to be pretty common nowadays.


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Can't remember the last time I had an upwards inflection... Crazy




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Sky full stop is an annoyance.

Sky are a bunch of bastards. I realised a few years back I was paying for football and films that I was never watching. I more-or-less had to tell them I had a terminal disease in order to get them to cancel my subscription and get them off my back. Even then I was pretty much told I was an idiot for wanting to give up their wonderful service. I seem to be getting by ok now though with my Freesat service. God bless free high definition. One more thing that really winds me up is people who have to finish EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE with an upwards inflection, or whatever it's called, like everything they say is a question. Never noticed it a few years back but it sems to be pretty common nowadays.


I hate people who finish my sentences for me, especially when they get it wrong. I can be there for 10 minutes restarting the sentence hoping I can get it all out before they jump in. But then the same people generally don't finish their own sentences - they just leave it hanging, wait for you to do it for them.
I had a manager like that once who never knew what I was saying because she never actually listened to the end of the sentence and then said everything in half sentences and, when I didn't finish them for her, did this irritating kind of 'is anyone there???' at me.


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Sky full stop is an annoyance.

Sky are a bunch of bastards. I realised a few years back I was paying for football and films that I was never watching. I more-or-less had to tell them I had a terminal disease in order to get them to cancel my subscription and get them off my back. Even then I was pretty much told I was an idiot for wanting to give up their wonderful service. I seem to be getting by ok now though with my Freesat service. God bless free high definition. One more thing that really winds me up is people who have to finish EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE with an upwards inflection, or whatever it's called, like everything they say is a question. Never noticed it a few years back but it sems to be pretty common nowadays.


I hate people who finish my sentences for me, especially when they get it wrong. I can be there for 10 minutes restarting the sentence hoping I can get it all out before they jump in. But then the same people generally don't finish their own sentences - they just leave it hanging, wait for you to do it for them.
I had a manager like that once who never knew what I was saying because she never actually listened to the end of the sentence and then said everything in half sentences and, when I didn't finish them for her, did this irritating kind of 'is anyone there???' at me.

There's a brilliant way of getting back at people like that, particularly managers. Sarcasm.



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There's a brilliant way of getting back at people like that, particularly managers. Sarcasm.


What ?



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There's a brilliant way of getting back at people like that, particularly managers. Sarcasm.


What ?

Between the time I posted that until the time I typed this I scoured Paddy Power looking for odds that you'd be the first to reply Hoddy, but to no avail. Cool



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Ask Ashers for odds in future. New business enterprise 'Honest Chris'. Turf Accountant to the Hoppers.



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I wonder what the odds are on the Punkster buying me a Rioja on Saturday?




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I wonder what the odds are on the Punkster buying me a Rioja on Saturday?


About the same as Chris getting an apology from all those posters he says have had a pop at him. Cool



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Dickwads who say Can I get


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People that cannot accept their wrong
Also people that HAVE to get the final word in

No one springs to mind on here thoughCrazy




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Queueing for buses (certainly in London) seems to have become a thing of the past.



Queueing seems to have come a thing of the past.




Football fans still seem to manage it...........so surely everybody else can?Smile


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and just when you need a knife and have only a thousand forks.....Tongue




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I went to the butchers this morning and asked for 12 ribs (spare variety).
And said to the guy: "Can you chop them in half for me please?"
He replied: "I can't do that."
Stunned by his retort, I responded, in a rather loud and brusque voice, words along
the lines of..'what bit of being a butcher don't you get?'
Two chops with a large chopping thing later, job done.
Now that was very random and it really annoyed me.




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This has been addressed elsewhere but the irritating bastard is still getting away with it.
Andy Townsend and his f****** annoying habit of pluralising the word 'goal' so that 'he shot just wide of the goals' etc. Somebody please torture him until he promises to stop...
Oh here we go I'm on a roll..
The Go Compare singer with the stupid tache needs torturing as well.
All DJs on Heart FM and the like who feel they have to drop all usage of consonants despite having a perfectly good speaking voice.
Likewise Lily Allen and various others who have now taken to singing in Mockney accents.
Mockneys.
Talentless alleged celebs.
My bosses who haven't given us a pay rise now for nearly five years.
Luton Town FC.
There will be more but it's getting late and I am kipping on my office floor...Goodnight John Boy


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Why can't postmen start their walk where the previous day's ended,
so we can all get a share of early post - at least for two or three days a week?
Probably get some brothers in arms argument now, on how moving in a different
direction upsets the equilibrium or something of that ilk (apologies Hoddy).
And how come they are all fat as well?




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Carrying on the postman theme, why do they always fold the mail in half to post through letterbox even though it fits perfectly if they didn't bend it, especially football traveller every time


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..and of course states 'Please do not bend' in 23 different languages..
Trust my new postman to be an ancient Greek revivalist... Frown




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Things that annoy me:

1) Getting off a train and the crowd of people surrounding the doors expecting you to somehow get off without walking through them. I once just stood there and waited for a gap to appear and some stupid woman said "Oh how arrogant is that?" Then when you say excuse me or barge through them you get the same pathetic comments.

2) Tourists where I work, asking for you directions and then going the completely opposite way, morons.

3) People who come to a sudden stand-still on a pavement and those that walk 4 in a line across it leaving no way to get past.

4) Those who assume that when you say you live in Derbyshire they think Derby. When I explain I live nearer to most of Greater Manchester I get a look of shock. Then when you tell them its about as quick to get to Liverpool and Leeds they look at you totally gone out.


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Definitely agree with No. 1! I just barge past if that happens and say something along the lines off, it would be nice to be allowed to get OFF the train! It usually has the desired effect, though I quite fancy trying the standing there until a gap appears idea!

No. 2 - Where do you work? Wink There's no tourists in my office!!



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I stood there with my left arm pointing forwards to give the sheep a hint that I may want to step off the train. It was at Manchester Piccadilly, Platform 14.

I work in Castleton though I have an interview on Monday for somewhere else, out of Castleton. I don't even like walking around Castleton on my days off either, too many tourists and day-trippers scaling Mam Tor and thinking they've climbed Everest.

Then there's the Duke of Edinburgh lot who usually have come from towns, normally in the South and moan about the hills and how they've walked 5 miles and are knackered. Then they moan its too windy, too cold, too rainy, if you don't like it then why do it? It really bugs me, I told one lad (who was particularly irritating) about the first day of my Pennine Way walk, 80mph winds, torrential rain, a rucksack a good 8kg heavier than his and how we repeated it for 15 days, he then admitted it blew his achievement out the water Laugh. It was quite funny...


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I work in Castleton though I have an interview on Monday for somewhere else, out of Castleton. I don't even like walking around Castleton on my days off either, too many tourists and day-trippers scaling Mam Tor and thinking they've climbed Everest.


Bugger. I did think it was a bit odd with no snow and so on but fenced it off as a minor point.


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Things that annoy me:

1) Getting off a train and the crowd of people surrounding the doors expecting you to somehow get off without walking through them. I once just stood there and waited for a gap to appear and some stupid woman said "Oh how arrogant is that?" Then when you say excuse me or barge through them you get the same pathetic comments.

Always carry an umbrella with a metal spike, and get off with it held out in front of you - works well for me. Best option though is to alight behind Hoddy !


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Always carry an umbrella with a metal spike, and get off with it held out in front of you - works well for me. Best option though is to alight behind Hoddy !

Oi, no need for that . Your off the Xmas card list .
But funnily enough do remember arriving at Waverley on a local in one of the bays , train was running late and the tea time commuters were rerady to get on board. Don't know what it's called at pop concerts when jumping off stage into crowd but I think I took a dozen commuters out !



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Always carry an umbrella with a metal spike, and get off with it held out in front of you - works well for me. Best option though is to alight behind Hoddy !

Oi, no need for that . Your off the Xmas card list .
But funnily enough do remember arriving at Waverley on a local in one of the bays , train was running late and the tea time commuters were rerady to get on board. Don't know what it's called at pop concerts when jumping off stage into crowd but I think I took a dozen commuters out !


That would be crowd surfing !!


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The National Blood Service have seriously annoyed me, my appointment to give blood tomorrow has been canceled for the THIRD time because of staff shortages, the next available appointment is in three weeks time!

A friend of mine lost her nine year old daughter to leukemia and suggested that if I wanted to do something in her memory that I go and give some blood which might go to help others in the same situation.

Perhaps the National Blood Service could "do something amazing" and get their act together?


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The National Blood Service have seriously annoyed me, my appointment to give blood tomorrow has been canceled for the THIRD time because of staff shortages, the next available appointment is in three weeks time!


Afraid this is the sort of thing you will have to get used to now the Cameron/Clegg show is in town.


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Always carry an umbrella with a metal spike, and get off with it held out in front of you - works well for me. Best option though is to alight behind Hoddy !

Oi, no need for that . Your off the Xmas card list .
But funnily enough do remember arriving at Waverley on a local in one of the bays , train was running late and the tea time commuters were rerady to get on board. Don't know what it's called at pop concerts when jumping off stage into crowd but I think I took a dozen commuters out !


That would be crowd surfing !!

It's stage diving. Crowd surfing is when people move over the heads of the audience towards the front of the stage and are deposited in the moat where security stand in front of the stage. They then return to the back and start the process all over again.



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Carrying on the postman theme, why do they always fold the mail in half to post through letterbox even though it fits perfectly if they didn't bend it, especially football traveller every time


Those blooming red rubber bands, I have a desk full of them. Can't give them back to postman/postwoman as he/she comes at least two hours after my office closes for the day.

He/she also delivers about 50% of our mail elsewhere, some of which eventually seeps into our letterbox, others we don't know about until we get the final demand! About 50% of what is in our letterbox now has an official stamp put on it by us stating - "Post Office - delivered to wrong address"; we resisted the temptation to add the word "again" at the end of stamp.

Then there was the invoice from the Royal Mail at Paddington which was addressed to us, demanding 450 or thereabouts for 2011 to collect our franked mail. We don't frank our post. I rang the Mr Ahmed who signed the letter and told him that we did not have a franked mail collection, he said we did, I said we didn't. The conversation ended acrimonously with Mr Ahmed telling me that they were stopping the franked mail collection service from our offices on such and such a date. Three months later a Royal Mail van drew up outside our offices and a bloke wlked into Reception and said "I've come for the your franked mail collection!"


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Dickwads who say 'Can I get?'


As bad as 'back-to-back' for 'consecutive'...


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About 50% of what is in our letterbox now has an official stamp put on it by us stating - "Post Office - delivered to wrong address"


The Post Office haven't delivered it to the wrong address. They're a separate company who don't deliver mail.

We get a few calls about misdelivered mail. Some posties are useless and it is embarrassing but just as many of the complaints are from people who've had mail delivered by other carriers but they automatically assume it's Royal Mail.
They come into the office in a huff, throw down a packet that's been misdelivered and start having a go at me. I point out it was HDNL / ParcelForce / City Link / DHL or whoever who doorstepped it at the wrong house, they reply they don't care who it was and walk off in a huff. We're left with a packet we haven't been paid to deliver that we can't do anything about.
It happens fairly regularly with whichever carrier has the contract for delivering passports as well. The envelope even says that, if it's misdelivered, phone the number provided and DO NOT put it in the Royal Mail system. People are stupid though and think that doesn't apply to them.
On that note - people who are having arguments with their utility companies who then send a letter without a stamp on it writing 'they can pay' or 'freepost' or something similar. It doesn't work like that. For a start, why refuse to pay Royal Mail to deliver the item, your argument with the company isn't anything to do with us.
Secondly, unless a company has a surcharge account set up, there's a good chance they won't pay for the letter so they won't get it. Freepost addresses and business replys have an account number which the company receiving the letter gets billed on. Without that number written on the envelope, they won't get billed and won't get the letter.
And you can't use any old number. Each Delivery Office can only bill accounts that are registered to that office. Some people think they're being clever by obscuring the pre-printed address on a business reply and writing another one. Fail.
And when an envelope from a company such as T-Mobile says 'do not include correspondence with this payment' there's a reason for that. The letter isn't going to T-Mobile. It's going to a centre run by a bank that deals with payments and nothing else. That centre also has 15-20 other company's mail going there. Anything that isn't a payment gets shredded or binned I presume. There are three or four of these places around the UK for most of the major utility / phone / credit card companies. We have one in Camberley. they get all sorts sent there. Some people even send their mobile phones there. These get refused and handed back to us and, guess what, half the time the sender hasn't put a return address on.
We should be more like Canada and insist all mail has a return address on it. It'd solve half the cases of stuff allegedly 'missing' in the post. We get a couple of thousands of items a day that can't be delivered as the address is incomplete, the address has gone away or whatever. A large percentage of these are shredded as it's part of the contract for anyone using a franking machine or PPI if there's no return ddress printed.

I think I've got it all out now. Apologies!

I know the Royal Mail isn't perfect and, in some cases, the service is chronically bad, but the public prove they can be just as incompetent.


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I know the Royal Mail isn't perfect and, in some cases, the service is chronically bad,


That certainly includes Crewe , worst in the country . Yes I know all the excuses !



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Well my postie is a very nice chap (and slim, for those wot care) and when I pass him on the way to the station he often stops what he's doing and digs out my stuff (he always asks if I want it or if he should stick through the door). I have no idea if he remembers everyone on the route although I do know one or two posties so maybe I've met him in the pub and not remembered.

One thing that gets up my nose where I work is that people moan about the post room all the time. We have about 1500 people working there and people just write a name on the internal envelope. I'm always having a go at those in my office who just write "not 615" and stick it back in. I tell them to do the guys a favour and look up the room number. They, of course, insist this is not their job. I point out that most postal services work on addresses so it's not really the post room's job to look up every name that comes through the system but they do it anyway.

On a separate note, First Capital Connect not telling their inspectors the rules is one that gets right up my nose. I've had very rude, bullying inspectors issuing me with fines for sitting in 1st class because they haven't been told that on the trains on my line it's decomissioned. I even had a snotty policewoman threatening me and insisting "you have to pay!". I asked her if she was going to mug me if I refused. The guys who usually work the line get fed up with it too because, not surprisingly, they get grief for it. They're usually very friendly and actually tell people they can sit in first class.


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Out of interest on what London area lines CAN we sit in first class?

And how do you find out such things?



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Doesn't everybody travel first class then?




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Out of interest on what London area lines CAN we sit in first class?

And how do you find out such things?


Mishi, in my somewhat infrequent experience of rail travel these are decisions made in the moment, usually when unusual circumstances lead to overcrowding. I've experienced it returning from St P to Wellingborough in the evening (weekdays and Saturdays) simply due to weight of numbers, and from Hastings to London Bridge on a Saturday evening when one of the two 5-car units failed.


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Doesn't everybody travel first class then?



For a number of years I had a free pass to use 1st class on Chiltern Trains, if thravelling standard class I had to pay the fare.


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Out of interest on what London area lines CAN we sit in first class?

And how do you find out such things?


If it's marked on the timetable with a big fat '1' then the service offers first class accommodation. If not the whole train is free for anyone to sit in. I learnt this from several ticket inspectors getting on and telling people and then had it confirmed by FCC directly after the above mentioned twat* inspector gave me what for. If you are travelling to/from New Barnet for example, only the 5.17am (or thereabouts) has 1st class accommodation. All the rest are 'decomissioned'.

* and before anyone sticks up for the twat, he could've taken my details and left me to clear it up with FCC as I suggested to him but he was aggresive and rude as was the 'policewoman' (who never showed me any ID) he managed to find. They lectured me on 'people like me' taking advantage of the system. I suggested to FCC that they should be aiming to avoid paying customers being abused and insulting for no reason by educating inspectors who are brought from a different line (this is what one of the normal inspectors said the problem was - they get drafted from the Hertford branch where it doesn't work that way and nobody tells them the rules). They more or less suggested I should leave them to their business.


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Which reminds me of another bugbear! The fact the police force will apparently support any inspector in a dispute with a passenger regardless of the situation. As explained above, I paid my money and sat on a train I was entitled to sit on. The inspector wrongfully tried to take a score off me. To my mind that's not far of attempted robbery. If I went up to a passenger on a train and told them to give me 20 without reason and kept bugging them for 20 minutes I'd be dealt with one way or another by the law. But if you're a ticket inspector you make the law apparently. I'd like to be clear that most of the inspectors I encounter are perfectly nice people doing a difficult job and I do understand why the law is as it is, but I don't accept that innocent person who pays a lot of money for a service can then find themselves on the wrong side of the law simply for partaking of that service.


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in for a penny, in for a pound....

When they issue you with a fine, it's then up to you to argue your case. Except what they do is hand it straight over to a f***inf debt collector (I'll try hard not to get started on that bunch of ****s) who basically aren't interested in your argument - they've been told by FCC (or whatever other train operator you fall foul of) that you are a bad 'un. They talk to you like you are a bad 'un and they even have a cut off date, after which you have to pay regardless of whether the fine was valid or not. So they can take 20 off you for no reason and if you don't make your case quick enough tough s***.Mad

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Simply don't pay the fine. I read somewhere not too long ago, in the last year ot two at most, that as long as you have not broken the law & are travelling honestly, as in NOT fare dodging, then the train companies will NOT take you to court, as they are shit scared of someone winning a test case.



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Simply don't pay the fine. I read somewhere not too long ago, in the last year ot two at most, that as long as you have not broken the law & are travelling honestly, as in NOT fare dodging, then the train companies will NOT take you to court, as they are shit scared of someone winning a test case.

Coming back from Southampton last May, a Southend fan was caught travelling on a train half an hour before the one he had booked on. He was made to pay the full single fare to Southend. Surely this was totally wrong, the train hadn't yet reached Southampton Airport Parkway, they could have just charged him to there on condition that he get off the train and wait for his correct train. In any case why should he have to pay his underground fare again or the fare from London to Southend as he probably wasn't booked on a specific train for that part of the journey and anyway different companies are responsible for those services.
I suspect that Southern Railways kept the whole of his excess fare, which in my view they are not entitled to do.
One woman who heard what had happened called the ticket inspector 'evil'.



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One of my quite happiest moments travelling on the trains occured on a Cross Country service from Leeds to Sheffield. I'd actually attempted to buy a ticket on my first train out of Ponte - but the ticket machine had failed! So I asked on the next service, but because I hadn't already bought a ticket, it was the full standard fare and not the cheap day return type of ones. I was a bit miffed, but also had no cash so had to use my debit card. I was keeping my fingers crossed thinking 'please don't work, please don't work!' and it didn't!! Cool
To which the ticket inspector, who was already quite annoyed at this point, stated that I didn't have a suitable method to pay and could have issued me with a 50 fine and reported me to the police, but was 'letting me off' this time! There were funds in my account, and it had worked perfectly before when I've purchased tickets on a train. I was just glad to get one over this time! As it turned out, my whole return journey to Tamworth cost about 8, as guards failed time and again to actually inspect on the trains, and one just missed me as I was in a large group of fans!



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When I used to get the train to work I had to frequently argue with conductors who weren't regulars on the route, as for some reason the station I got on the train at had a special exemption from peak time (rumour had it that a local executive of the train company lived in the village), meaning that I could use a cheap day ticket before 9am. Being hassled every couple of weeks was quite embarrassing on a packed train. One conductor got so self-righteous that even when he found the exemption in his book, he claimed that it must be a mistake and started arguing again. Only when he finally called the office and was told I was right did he stop (although no apology was offered).

Frankly the rail ticketing system in this country is a farce. The best model I have come across is Israel, where there is no first class, no peak time and returns can be used for up to a year after after being purchased. You can also get reduced fares by merely showing your student card or other ID, rather than having to pay for a railcard.


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When I used to get the train to work I had to frequently argue with conductors who weren't regulars on the route, as for some reason the station I got on the train at had a special exemption from peak time (rumour had it that a local executive of the train company lived in the village), meaning that I could use a cheap day ticket before 9am. Being hassled every couple of weeks was quite embarrassing on a packed train. One conductor got so self-righteous that even when he found the exemption in his book, he claimed that it must be a mistake and started arguing again. Only when he finally called the office and was told I was right did he stop (although no apology was offered).


This is what pisses me off. It's fair enough that they get something wrong now and again but to front up like you're the scum of the earth is simply not appropriate. And you never get any kind of apology.


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A relative of mine is a British Transport Police officer and he said this whole penalty fare system is "legalised theft" and many revenue inspectors are full of bullsh*t and they rely on gullible people paying up.

As Mishi said do not pay them, threats of court action and getting a criminal record are just hollow threats.

The police don't normally get involved in such matters, they know what a can of worms it all is, and the 'policewoman' that spoke to you certainly should have shown some ID.


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A relative of mine is a British Transport Police officer and he said this whole penalty fare system is "legalised theft" and many revenue inspectors are full of bullsh*t and they rely on gullible people paying up.

As Mishi said do not pay them, threats of court action and getting a criminal record are just hollow threats.

The police don't normally get involved in such matters, they know what a can of worms it all is, and the 'policewoman' that spoke to you certainly should have shown some ID.

He could have demanded to see some.

As for the penalty fare system I agree with Mishi. It's unlikely they'll carry out their threats as it would cost them more money to follow it through than they'd be redeeming from taking you to court.



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To have any chance of convicting somebody in court for fare evasion they have to produce some evidence that the person intended to avoid payment.

Often ticket offices are closed and ticket machines don't work so it's impossible to buy a ticket anyway.

Penalty fares were introduced under BR as a reasonable deterrent to fare evasion but since privatisation the system has been abused to fleece innocent passengers and many inspectors are on a commission based on how many penalty fares they issue.


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I have to say my experience of British Transport Police have been very positive. They've always been very calm and matter of fact - like they just want it sorted out.

re: The policewoman who didn't show me ID, I shouldn't have to ask for ID from someone who is going to start ordering me about. I had no intention of doing anything she said on the basis that if she got to King's Cross and had someone arrest me for disobeying a police offcer (or whatever it is) I could simply tell them she hadn't ID'd herself - she was in plain clothes. The thing was got my goat was that, unlike the BTP I've come into contact with, she was provocative and argumentative. I explained that the compartment was decomissioned and she just kept jabbing her finger at the First Class notices and saying (well, half shouting) "What does that say? Can't you read?".

Anyway, I'm glad even the BTP agree that it's legalised theft!


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BTP officers are able to take an impartial view on things unlike revenue inspectors who have a vested interest in handing out as many penalty fares as possible.

Yes you should have asked this 'policewoman' for ID and if she refused to show any then report her to BTP, impersonating a police officer is a serious issue and revenue staff are certainly not above the law even though some quite clearly think that they are.

It really is about time this whole penalty fare system was outlawed.


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Wow some people really do talk some garbage when it comes to the Railways


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Wow some people really do talk some garbage when it comes to the Railways



Well are you going to correct me then or what?


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On what particular comment should I correct you, assuming of course I aimed that solely at you


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On what particular comment should I correct you, assuming of course I aimed that solely at you



Well you didn't make it clear who the comment was aimed at.

If I've said anything that's wrong I'm happy to be corrected and I would imagine other posters are as well.


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OK well I will correct you then. RPIs and PFIs are not on commission / results based pay schemes.
That applies across the board at all companies.
Guards / Train managers at some companies get commission on tickets they sell, but that is nothing to do with Penalty Fares


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Fair enough (no pun intended) although it does say on the Wikipedia page on penalty fares that some staff are on commission but if that is not the case I'm happy to be corrected.

It is however reasonable to assume that revenue staff (like traffic wardens) must be under some sort of pressure to issue tickets otherwise they could just take the easy option and not issue any.


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Fair enough (no pun intended) although it does say on the Wikipedia page on penalty fares that some staff are on commission but if that is not the case I'm happy to be corrected.

It is however reasonable to assume that revenue staff (like traffic wardens) must be under some sort of pressure to issue tickets otherwise they could just take the easy option and not issue any.


Please tell me wikipedia isn't your source for all info !
And I am pretty sure the traffic wardens on commission is just a Daily Mail made up story too (but don't quote me on that one)


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I don't read the Daily Mail so I wouldn't know but if a traffic warden arrived back at base after every shift saying that they hadn't seen anybody parked illegally and therefore hadn't issued any tickets I cannot imagine that would be considered acceptable by their bosses.


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There was a documentary about traffic wardens on TV last year or the year before. I didn't see all of it but it was clear from the under cover reporting how much pressure is out on officers to dish out as many tickets as possible.

Out of interest Villahopper, could the same be said for staff issuing penalty fares on the railways?



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I wouldn't really know as I am neither a traffic warden or a traffic warden's boss. But I do work on the Railway and I know there a quite a few guards who don't exactly bust a gut at work and they are still employed so can't be that bad. Although to be fair guards do have the rule book on their side when it comes to revenue protection


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I know there a quite a few guards who don't exactly bust a gut at work and they are still employed so can't be that bad.

Hope you are not referring to someone we know ?



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I know there a quite a few guards who don't exactly bust a gut at work and they are still employed so can't be that bad.

Hope you are not referring to someone we know ?


Well he uses all his energy going to games and at his age it's best he has some time to relax. so I am guessing he must do that at work


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There was a documentary about traffic wardens on TV last year or the year before. I didn't see all of it but it was clear from the under cover reporting how much pressure is out on officers to dish out as many tickets as possible.

Out of interest Villahopper, could the same be said for staff issuing penalty fares on the railways?


They are not on commission if thats what you mean. The very nature of the job means some will be more, erm, motivated than other I guess. I would be very surprised if there are set targets to meet as such.
The travelling ticket inspectors at my company certainly don't


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Two people I know have been traffic wardens, issuing tickets was only a small part of their job. In many places now they are there to make sure people don't park where they are blocking roads and to keep the traffic moving, another aspect is to report any vechicle with an out of date tax disc and dumped cars, etc. Both said they did not have quotas of tickets to issue.


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I wouldn't really know as I am neither a traffic warden or a traffic warden's boss. But I do work on the Railway and I know there a quite a few guards who don't exactly bust a gut at work and they are still employed so can't be that bad. Although to be fair guards do have the rule book on their side when it comes to revenue protection



In fairness most guards (certainly on SE Trains) seem quite reasonable, it's the travelling teams of revenue inspectors that are the problem.

I've got onto the high speed train to St Pancras before without a ticket because the long queue would have meant I missed the train and I purchased a ticket from the onboard guard/conductor without any problem at all although they have advised me that if a revenue team got on there could be trouble.

I've also read articles in local papers about over zealous revenue staff some of whom are dressed in a very similar uniform to police officers, presumably to fool people into thinking that they are police officers?


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I wouldn't really know as I am neither a traffic warden or a traffic warden's boss. But I do work on the Railway and I know there a quite a few guards who don't exactly bust a gut at work and they are still employed so can't be that bad. Although to be fair guards do have the rule book on their side when it comes to revenue protection



In fairness most guards (certainly on SE Trains) seem quite reasonable, it's the travelling teams of revenue inspectors that are the problem.

I've got onto the high speed train to St Pancras before without a ticket because the long queue would have meant I missed the train and I purchased a ticket from the onboard guard/conductor without any problem at all although they have advised me that if a revenue team got on there could be trouble.


And if you had done that and revenue had got on you would be fully liable as you passed an opportunity to purchase a ticket and didn't. Irrelevant about missing the train.
The problem here is people get guards / train managers and Revenue protection teams confused. Guards can sell you tickets, revenue (in PF areas) in general don't


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I wouldn't really know as I am neither a traffic warden or a traffic warden's boss. But I do work on the Railway and I know there a quite a few guards who don't exactly bust a gut at work and they are still employed so can't be that bad. Although to be fair guards do have the rule book on their side when it comes to revenue protection



In fairness most guards (certainly on SE Trains) seem quite reasonable, it's the travelling teams of revenue inspectors that are the problem.

I've got onto the high speed train to St Pancras before without a ticket because the long queue would have meant I missed the train and I purchased a ticket from the onboard guard/conductor without any problem at all although they have advised me that if a revenue team got on there could be trouble.


And if you had done that and revenue had got on you would be fully liable as you passed an opportunity to purchase a ticket and didn't. Irrelevant about missing the train.
The problem here is people get guards / train managers and Revenue protection teams confused. Guards can sell you tickets, revenue (in PF areas) in general don't




Well I would argue that I hadn't passed an opportunity to purchase a ticket because I'd have missed the train and had to wait half an hour for the next one. I had arrived at the station ten minutes before the departure time and only one of the ticket windows was open.

This whole penalty fare system gives rail companies licence to provide poor facilities for buying tickets and then putting the onus onto the passenger for not having one.


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I wouldn't really know as I am neither a traffic warden or a traffic warden's boss. But I do work on the Railway and I know there a quite a few guards who don't exactly bust a gut at work and they are still employed so can't be that bad. Although to be fair guards do have the rule book on their side when it comes to revenue protection



In fairness most guards (certainly on SE Trains) seem quite reasonable, it's the travelling teams of revenue inspectors that are the problem.

I've got onto the high speed train to St Pancras before without a ticket because the long queue would have meant I missed the train and I purchased a ticket from the onboard guard/conductor without any problem at all although they have advised me that if a revenue team got on there could be trouble.


And if you had done that and revenue had got on you would be fully liable as you passed an opportunity to purchase a ticket and didn't. Irrelevant about missing the train.
The problem here is people get guards / train managers and Revenue protection teams confused. Guards can sell you tickets, revenue (in PF areas) in general don't




Well I would argue that I hadn't passed an opportunity to purchase a ticket because I'd have missed the train and had to wait half an hour for the next one. I had arrived at the station ten minutes before the departure time and only one of the ticket windows was open.

This whole penalty fare system gives rail companies licence to provide poor facilities for buying tickets and then putting the onus onto the passenger for not having one.


OK I will bite.
You can argue that all you like but the fact is the ticket window was open and you are required to purchase a ticket at the first available opportunity. Once you have passed an opportunity to purchase a ticket and have failed to do so you are in breach of railway by-laws. The tme of the next train is irrelevant I am afraid.
The onus is on the passenger to by a ticket anyway so I fail to see why it is any worse in a penalty fare area. If there are no facilities to buy a ticket then a PF cannot be issued


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Strictly speaking you're right but when there is a conductor on the train selling tickets, as there always is on the high speed train to St Pancras, there really should be no problem about buying a ticket on the train.


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Thats all well and good if you want to take the risk. But if PFIs are on board one day then don't moan when you get PF'd


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Thats all well and good if you want to take the risk. But if PFIs are on board one day then don't moan when you get PF'd


And I'll tell them where they can stick it and that I'll see them in court!

The whole PF system is indeed legalised theft and it would appear from Copey's earlier posting that a female revenue inspector was claiming to be a police officer.

I appreciate that some people avoid payment but the harrasment of innocent passengers is totally unacceptable.


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Thats all well and good if you want to take the risk. But if PFIs are on board one day then don't moan when you get PF'd


And I'll tell them where they can stick it and that I'll see them in court!

The whole PF system is indeed legalised theft and it would appear from Copey's earlier posting that a female revenue inspector was claiming to be a police officer.

I appreciate that some people avoid payment but the harrasment of innocent passengers is totally unacceptable.


Then you would lose simple as.

So come on then tell me the alternative.


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It would never get too court.

I've no problem with anybody who is clearly intent on avoiding payment having the book thrown at them but the ticketing system is so complex that it's hardly any wonder that many passengers have the wrong type of ticket, many ticket offices are only open for a few hours a day and ticket machines often don't work.


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It would never get too court.

I've no problem with anybody who is clearly intent on avoiding payment having the book thrown at them but the ticketing system is so complex that it's hardly any wonder that many passengers have the wrong type of ticket, many ticket offices are only open for a few hours a day and ticket machines often don't work.


Now you are moving the goalposts. I asked what system would you have in place as a deterrent against fare evasion.

And if you refused to pay a penalty fare after admitting walking past an open ticket office and not buying a ticket court is exactly where you would end up


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You can argue that all you like but the fact is the ticket window was open and you are required to purchase a ticket at the first available opportunity. Once you have passed an opportunity to purchase a ticket and have failed to do so you are in breach of railway by-laws. The tme of the next train is irrelevant I am afraid.
The onus is on the passenger to by a ticket anyway so I fail to see why it is any worse in a penalty fare area. If there are no facilities to buy a ticket then a PF cannot be issued


I trust you are referring to the mentioned specific incident at St Pancras here


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Yes


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People intent on fare evasion should be prosecuted although obviously evidence would have to produced in court that the person intended to avoid payment, far easier though just to brand anybody without the correct ticket a fare dodger and demand a penalty fare from them.

At least Dick Turpin wore a mask!


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People intent on fare evasion should be prosecuted although obviously evidence would have to produced in court that the person intended to avoid payment, far easier though just to brand anybody without the correct ticket a fare dodger and demand a penalty fare from them.

At least Dick Turpin wore a mask!


Goalposts moved again


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Really ?




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I agree with Isaac. He didn't pass up the opportunity to buy a ticket, he wasn't offered one. It depends where you buy your ticket - I'd always leave at least 20 minutes at somwhere like King's Cross - but given that you cannot buy all tickets online I think turning up at the station to buy the ticket and then realising you'd miss the train - and therefore wait an extra hour in doing so - and jumping on is perfectly reasonable.

Basically, train companies in England are a bunch of thieving mafia gangs. They do eff all to make it easy for you to get your ticket on time, and then do all they can to fine you, including trying to fine you when they have no right.


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What a load of crap. With all due respect


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Now you are moving the goalposts. I asked what system would you have in place as a deterrent against fare evasion.

There's two things the rail companies can do to avoid fare evasion.

1) Make sure there is a ticket office open or failing that, a working ticket machine is available with a full range of tickets including any special offers.

(At Clacton the ticket office closes at 18:00 and the ticket machine does not offer the full range of tickets.)

2) Make sure that the station is manned so that tickets are checked. Many stations on our line are unmanned and people are travelling for free on a regular basis.



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Now you are moving the goalposts. I asked what system would you have in place as a deterrent against fare evasion.

There's two things the rail companies can do to avoid fare evasion.

1) Make sure there is a ticket office open or failing that, a working ticket machine is available with a full range of tickets including any special offers.

(At Clacton the ticket office closes at 18:00 and the ticket machine does not offer the full range of tickets.)

2) Make sure that the station is manned so that tickets are checked. Many stations on our line are unmanned and people are travelling for free on a regular basis.


Which would require a lot more staff and therefore higher costs and therefore higher ticket prices.
And as we can see from a few of the above posts even when a ticket office is provided people will still not use it and bleat about getting caught
The fact is you can never stop completely fare evasion so all you can do is offer some form of deterrent. PFs are nor perfect by any means but I have yet to hear anyone come up with a useful, affordable alternative.


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Well I think the drivers are overpaid for a start Shocked


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Well I think the drivers are overpaid for a start Shocked


You don't think I am going to let you get away with that do you Wink

Right here goes
Every journey I am i charge of something worth around 5 million. I am responsible for the lives of up to 400 people at anytime.
I know, intimately, just shy of 500 miles of railway.
I have the have the knowledge and ability to fault find and fix a machine of staggering complexity.
I have to know, and are tested on ever year, a rule book that runs to nigh on 400 pages. Not to mention our own company specific rules.
I am available to work 7 days a week 363 days a year as early as 03.20 and as late as 02.15
I work most weekends and bank holidays at no extra pay premium.
Oh and I am very good at my job.

So come on tell me, what do you think is an appropriate renumeration taking all that into account Cool


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Fvck me....all that and your a train driver?
Did you work for NASA in a previous life?




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At least Dick Turpin wore a mask!


Really ?



I just used Google Images for Dick Turpin, in all the real photos he has no mask, he could be the twin of the bloke who was in Man About the House.


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What a load of crap. With all due respect



With all due respect the crap is coming from your direction!

Are you seriously suggesting that if somebody finds perhaps two out of three ticket office windows closed and a massive queue at the one that is open and a ticket machine that either doesn't work or doesn't issue the ticket that they require should miss their intended train and wait half an hour, an hour or perhaps more for another train? Perhaps it's the train company that should be fined for failing to provide adequate levels of service?

At many rural stations there is no ticket office or machine and there is no option other than to pay on the train or at the destination, that's if there is a ticket office or machine there of course.

In fairness one train company that I have found very good whenever I've used them are Grand Central out of Kings Cross, clean comfortable trains, friendly and efficient staff and no penalty fares, in fact they advertise the fact that passengers can buy a ticket on board which obviously saves all the queueing at the ticket office.

A couple of links to the problems penalty fares cause in the London area:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/...1140-fare-dodgers.do

http://londonist.com/...res-hit-millions.php


I won't comment on whether train drivers are overpaid, I know a driver on the London Underground and he puts forward similar arguments to you but he does admit that most of his time is spent sat at the controls of a train that drives itself.


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The question is not 'are train/tube drivers' overpaid, but why they are getting a reasonable wage, for very unsocial hours...

Clearly because they have strong trade unions that look after them. Without the unions they would be on much, much lower wages, & the bosses would be richer than they are!

More power to the train workers, their strength is something I believe all workers should aspire to.

BTW I'm not looking to debate the matter, that is my opinion which I'm not shifting from, & have no wish to 'defend my corner' as I believe i have nothing to defend, as my beliefs on this are one hundred per cent.



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An interesting snippet from the link.

The Rules themselves do not define what "no facilities available" means. But in separate guidance on penalty fares ("Penalty Fares Policy") issued by the Department for Transport, it is made quite clear, in clauses 4.2 and 4.11, that passengers must be given "sufficent opportunity" to buy a ticket and that regular queues over three minutes (off-peak) and five minutes (peak) breach the definition of what is "sufficient".



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What a load of crap. With all due respect



With all due respect the crap is coming from your direction!

Are you seriously suggesting that if somebody finds perhaps two out of three ticket office windows closed and a massive queue at the one that is open and a ticket machine that either doesn't work or doesn't issue the ticket that they require should miss their intended train and wait half an hour, an hour or perhaps more for another train? Perhaps it's the train company that should be fined for failing to provide adequate levels of service?

At many rural stations there is no ticket office or machine and there is no option other than to pay on the train or at the destination, that's if there is a ticket office or machine there of course.

In fairness one train company that I have found very good whenever I've used them are Grand Central out of Kings Cross, clean comfortable trains, friendly and efficient staff and no penalty fares, in fact they advertise the fact that passengers can buy a ticket on board which obviously saves all the queueing at the ticket office.

A couple of links to the problems penalty fares cause in the London area:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/...1140-fare-dodgers.do

http://londonist.com/...res-hit-millions.php


I won't comment on whether train drivers are overpaid, I know a driver on the London Underground and he puts forward similar arguments to you but he does admit that most of his time is spent sat at the controls of a train that drives itself.


And you are painting a misleading picture of buying a ticket for 99% of the time.
And I will repeat myself for the hard of thinking. If there is no means to buy a ticket on the station then you are perfectly OK to buy any ticket on the train. Is that clear enough for you.
It may surprise you to know that last year for the first time more than half of all tickets were purchased from other than a ticket office. Less demand for ticket offices will mean less ticket offices.
Oh and I don't drive a tube train and my train definitely doesn't drive itself so if I was you I would cut the patronising comments


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What a load of crap. With all due respect



With all due respect the crap is coming from your direction!

Are you seriously suggesting that if somebody finds perhaps two out of three ticket office windows closed and a massive queue at the one that is open and a ticket machine that either doesn't work or doesn't issue the ticket that they require should miss their intended train and wait half an hour, an hour or perhaps more for another train? Perhaps it's the train company that should be fined for failing to provide adequate levels of service?

At many rural stations there is no ticket office or machine and there is no option other than to pay on the train or at the destination, that's if there is a ticket office or machine there of course.

In fairness one train company that I have found very good whenever I've used them are Grand Central out of Kings Cross, clean comfortable trains, friendly and efficient staff and no penalty fares, in fact they advertise the fact that passengers can buy a ticket on board which obviously saves all the queueing at the ticket office.

A couple of links to the problems penalty fares cause in the London area:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/...1140-fare-dodgers.do

http://londonist.com/...res-hit-millions.php


I won't comment on whether train drivers are overpaid, I know a driver on the London Underground and he puts forward similar arguments to you but he does admit that most of his time is spent sat at the controls of a train that drives itself.


And you are painting a misleading picture of buying a ticket for 99% of the time.
And I will repeat myself for the hard of thinking. If there is no means to buy a ticket on the station then you are perfectly OK to buy any ticket on the train. Is that clear enough for you.
It may surprise you to know that last year for the first time more than half of all tickets were purchased from other than a ticket office. Less demand for ticket offices will mean less ticket offices.
Oh and I don't drive a tube train and my train definitely doesn't drive itself so if I was you I would cut the patronising comments



We are in danger of going round in circles here, that is indeed clear enough for me but my point was that if I cannot buy a ticket within a reasonable time (ie before my train comes in) then as far as I'm concerned I've not been given a reasonable opportunity to buy a ticket.

I appreciate that more and more people buy train tickets online nowadays however train companies surely have a duty to make sure ticket offices are adequately staffed if they expect people to buy tickets before travelling?

Patronising commentsShockedShocked? I'm just repeating what a tube driver told me and for what it's worth I agree with Mishi's comments about trade unions.


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An interesting snippet from the link.

The Rules themselves do not define what "no facilities available" means. But in separate guidance on penalty fares ("Penalty Fares Policy") issued by the Department for Transport, it is made quite clear, in clauses 4.2 and 4.11, that passengers must be given "sufficent opportunity" to buy a ticket and that regular queues over three minutes (off-peak) and five minutes (peak) breach the definition of what is "sufficient".




Thank you, exactly the point I was makingWink


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And you are painting a misleading picture of buying a ticket for 99% of the time.

I think that depends on where you live. When I lived in London is was easy and I had no problems. But in provincial towns and particularly rural areas there is often no choice but to get on the train without paying.

That isn't a problem in itself but if you were hoping to take advantage of a special offer and the ticket officer tells you he can't do that on his machine (an incident which I've witnessed myself) it's unfair on the paying customer and maybe even illegal in that the company are advertising something that the customer is unable to take advantage of.



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The question is not 'are train/tube drivers' overpaid, but why they are getting a reasonable wage, for very unsocial hours...

Clearly because they have strong trade unions that look after them. Without the unions they would be on much, much lower wages, & the bosses would be richer than they are!

More power to the train workers, their strength is something I believe all workers should aspire to.

BTW I'm not looking to debate the matter, that is my opinion which I'm not shifting from, & have no wish to 'defend my corner' as I believe i have nothing to defend, as my beliefs on this are one hundred per cent.


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I would like to make it clear that ultimately I'm not having a pop at drivers, station staff etc. As is usually the case the problem lies with the greedy b***ards at the top. I understand that passenger levels have risen in recent years so it doesn't make sense to have less staff at the stations. If the truth be known it's probably more to do with the executives cutting staff to pay for the increase in their salaries.

As I said in another thread, instead of cutting at the bottom, get rid of half the suits at the top and you'll save more money than getting shot of five times the amount of staff at the stations.



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I guess this boils down to what you think is a realistic target.
I, unlike most people on here I would guess, have worked in a ticket office. I know that sometimes it can take 5 minutes to issue one ticket once you have got all the information from the passenger. In my opinion at certain times 5 minutes isn't a lot of time when you have a queue of maybe 10 people waiting.
But then again I know it can be frustrating waiting in a queue. But sometimes thats just the way it is. Not just at railway stations, but in supermarkets, post offices, hell even at football games.
Do they get the same grief, no they don't because the railway is an easy target because most people enjoy having a pop.
Just a suggestion here but if you are going to catch a train and you think the ticket office may be a little busy why not leave yourself a bit of extra time. Or is it because the GUIDELINES say 5 mins you think that is gospel and you will get away with it.
Even if you can't buy a ticket at the station all you have to do is approach the guard and they will sell you one 99 times out of a 100.
I have worked in a ticket office, I have been a guard, and now I am a driver. I know all the tricks people try on to avoid paying a fare. I am also human and I know sometimes things don't go to plan so you make allowances


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I have worked in a ticket office, I have been a guard, and now I am a driver. I know all the tricks people try on to avoid paying a fare. I am also human and I know sometimes things don't go to plan so you make allowances


Sure I could show you a few new ones ?



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I have worked in a ticket office, I have been a guard, and now I am a driver. I know all the tricks people try on to avoid paying a fare. I am also human and I know sometimes things don't go to plan so you make allowances


Sure I could show you a few new ones ?


When I used to check tickets you would always get the chancer without one, possibly Issac who knows, first you would get the ticket dance where they pat down every part of their body trying to find the elusive piece of paper. After that rigmarole had finished they would look at you and usually say something along the lines of "well what it is right" and I used to stop them right there and say "OK here's a little bet. If you come up with an excuse I have never heard I will give you the ticket for free. If I have heard it before the fare is double. Wanna play ?"
They usually just paid up !!


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first you would get the ticket dance where they pat down every part of their body trying to find the elusive piece of paper.

You've done it now. In future everytime I see someone performing the "ticket dance" I'll think of you. Tongue



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I must admit if there is one thing about working on the railway that makes my blood boil it's people moaning about getting caught without a ticket. You might have noticed !!
You wouldn't get to the checkouts at Tesco and find a queue so just walk out with the shopping.
You wouldn't find a queue at a turnstile at football and find a queue so just walk in the ground.
Unfortunately sometimes queuing is just something we have to do but it seems if it's the railway people don't want to do it. I know they will say well I had to get the train but you even get that excuse on lines with a frequent service.
Anyway. I hope some people will understand the points I am trying to make but I won't hold my breath


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Anyway. I hope some people will understand the points I am trying to make but I won't hold my breath


Is that your last word on the matter ?



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Anyway. I hope some people will understand the points I am trying to make but I won't hold my breath


Is that your last word on the matter ?


Yes. erm no. Maybe


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I always leave early for games so I haven't got a problem with queueing. My gripe is, as I mentioned earlier, not being able to purchase the ticket I want because there's no ticket office open and the ticket machine is either not working or does not offer the ticket I want to buy.

The other thing is watching people travel for nothing due to lack of station staff and ticket inspectors. Most passengers in Clacton know that you can travel for nothing at certain times to certain stations. NXEA must be losing a fortune in fares which could easily be saved by employing two people to be on the trains between Clacton and Colchester (one train travelling in each direction) between the hours of 18:00 - 00:00. That's only six hours a day per person. With two part timers covering the weekends I'm sure the company would more than make their money back.

And I'm sure that we're not the only area with this situation.



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And with the levels of unemployment recently, it couldn't be too difficult to employ a couple of members of staff.

I have to say I have a foot in both camps here. I agree that you should be given a 'reasonable opportunity' of buying a ticket. If you have to queue for 30 minutes, miss your train, and wait an hour for your next train I wouldn't class that as reasonable at all in MY opinion. We have some very remote stations up North, so what would happen if during rush hour I wanted to buy a ticket to get me from Leeds to Snaith - only one per day - and as I had to queue the train left before I could catch it? The train company would HAVE to put on a special taxi service surely, just for me, to get to my destination as it was there fault I missed the train and in the customer's charter's I have read, they always state 'we will always get you to your final destination station,' obviously unless it was the passengers fault (sleeping through stations etc!).



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I have worked in a ticket office, I have been a guard, and now I am a driver. I know all the tricks people try on to avoid paying a fare. I am also human and I know sometimes things don't go to plan so you make allowances


Sure I could show you a few new ones ?


When I used to check tickets you would always get the chancer without one, possibly Issac who knows, first you would get the ticket dance where they pat down every part of their body trying to find the elusive piece of paper. After that rigmarole had finished they would look at you and usually say something along the lines of "well what it is right" and I used to stop them right there and say "OK here's a little bet. If you come up with an excuse I have never heard I will give you the ticket for free. If I have heard it before the fare is double. Wanna play ?"
They usually just paid up !!



Err.............just what are you trying to imply hereShocked?

I've no doubt that many people do try and avoid payment, a lousy service and sky high fares are the usual excuse, equally many people nick stuff from Tesco but you can imagine the uproar if they insisted on searching everybody as they left the store.

It's up to rail companies to seek out those who avoid payment and not tarr everybody with the same brush.


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I must admit if there is one thing about working on the railway that makes my blood boil it's people moaning about getting caught without a ticket. You might have noticed !!
You wouldn't get to the checkouts at Tesco and find a queue so just walk out with the shopping.
You wouldn't find a queue at a turnstile at football and find a queue so just walk in the ground.
Unfortunately sometimes queuing is just something we have to do but it seems if it's the railway people don't want to do it. I know they will say well I had to get the train but you even get that excuse on lines with a frequent service.
Anyway. I hope some people will understand the points I am trying to make but I won't hold my breath




Not quite the same thing though, if you don't like the queues in Tesco you can go and shop at Sainsburys.

If there was a exceptional delay getting into a football ground you certainly would have complaints to deal with!


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I always leave early for games so I haven't got a problem with queueing. My gripe is, as I mentioned earlier, not being able to purchase the ticket I want because there's no ticket office open and the ticket machine is either not working or does not offer the ticket I want to buy.

The other thing is watching people travel for nothing due to lack of station staff and ticket inspectors. Most passengers in Clacton know that you can travel for nothing at certain times to certain stations. NXEA must be losing a fortune in fares which could easily be saved by employing two people to be on the trains between Clacton and Colchester (one train travelling in each direction) between the hours of 18:00 - 00:00. That's only six hours a day per person. With two part timers covering the weekends I'm sure the company would more than make their money back.

And I'm sure that we're not the only area with this situation.



You're certainly not the only area with that situation, it's the same on SE Trains.

The trouble is one person on their own would undoubtably be told to "f*** off" by the sort of yobs that are about in the evening, they have to be 'mob handed' for safety reasons and if you emply too many extra staff it would cost more than they would get back.

I remember an ex boyfriend of my daughters once openly bragging about how he had travelled between London to Scotland on late night trains without paying on more than one occasions. He didn't think he had done anything wrong pointing out that there were plenty of spare seats on the train and it hadn't cost them anymore to run the train just because he was on board.

In fact wasn't the group Dexys Midnight Runners so named because they got up to similar tricks in their younger days?

Whilst I'm sure most people wouldn't condone fare evasion I don't think many will have a great deal of sympathy with train companies.


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In fact wasn't the group Dexys Midnight Runners so named because they got up to similar tricks in their younger days?

I believe the origin of the name is drug related.

http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/articles/a_dexys.htm



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In fact wasn't the group Dexys Midnight Runners so named because they got up to similar tricks in their younger days?

I believe the origin of the name is drug related.

http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/articles/a_dexys.htm

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Anyway. I hope some people will understand the points I am trying to make but I won't hold my breath


Is that your last word on the matter ?


Yes. erm no. Maybe



Any train company thought of a Brum oyster card, or a similar national system?

I think London Midland are trying to get everyone to buy a ticket at least 2 hrs in advance then just print it off at the ticket machine. Good idea?


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I thought if the ticket office was shut, the ticket machine was broken and the permit to travel machine was empty (thinking of Goring Station) you could board a train but you must try and contact the "train manager / supervisor" asap. There must be a way because many of the smaller stations around Oxford seem to have no way of buying a ticket in advance other than online.


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"I think London Midland are trying to get everyone to buy a ticket at least 2 hrs in advance then just print it off at the ticket machine. Good idea?"

What if you go somewhere on the sur of the moment, maybe a late postponement & you change your travel plans?

And how do you buy a ticket in advance if you don't have a computer at home?



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I thought if the ticket office was shut, the ticket machine was broken and the permit to travel machine was empty (thinking of Goring Station) you could board a train but you must try and contact the "train manager / supervisor" asap. There must be a way because many of the smaller stations around Oxford seem to have no way of buying a ticket in advance other than online.



I don't see why the onus should be on the passenger to walk up and down a train trying to find the guard (or whatever they are called) who might well be hiding up asleep somewhereWink!

As I understand it you just pay on the train or at the station you get off at.


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Is that your last word on the matter ?


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Any train company thought of a Brum oyster card, or a similar national system?

I think London Midland are trying to get everyone to buy a ticket at least 2 hrs in advance then just print it off at the ticket machine. Good idea?





Oyster Card?? There's another thing to rant about!Unsure

They work alright on buses where a simple flat fare is deducted when you board but on the trains they are a nightmare with passengers regularly being overcharged.

If I'm going to London on the train and making other journies there I stick to the one day Travelcard which is a lot less hassle!


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I guess this boils down to what you think is a realistic target.

The one that is in the DfT Penalty Fares policy documents and/or the one that is in the train company's Customer Charter.

I, unlike most people on here I would guess, have worked in a ticket office. I know that sometimes it can take 5 minutes to issue one ticket once you have got all the information from the passenger. In my opinion at certain times 5 minutes isn't a lot of time when you have a queue of maybe 10 people waiting.

I have worked in a ticket office and agree, in some cases, it could take 5 mins to issue a ticket. However, the office was staffed to take this into into account. If that is no longer the case then it is not the fault of the remaining staff, but equally it is not the fault of the passenger either.

But then again I know it can be frustrating waiting in a queue. But sometimes thats just the way it is. Not just at railway stations, but in supermarkets, post offices, hell even at football games. Do they get the same grief, no they don't because the railway is an easy target because most people enjoy having a pop.

As has been said already, at a supermarket you can take your custom elsewhere. It is quite common for a kick off to be delayed if there are excessive queues to get into a match. Do train companies hold trains for passengers in this circumstance - do they hell, instead they accuse passengers of fare dodging and try and issue a penalty fare.

Just a suggestion here but if you are going to catch a train and you think the ticket office may be a little busy why not leave yourself a bit of extra time. Or is it because the GUIDELINES say 5 mins you think that is gospel and you will get away with it.

No problem with leaving a bit of extra time, if possible, but what if you do and still can't get served?
The documents I mention above may be guidelines/aims but what else have passengers got to go on?

Airlines make it clear that you must check in at least xx mins before your flight. However, I have never seen anyone turned away if they have joined the queue prior to the cutoff time but do not actually reach the front until after the deadline has passed. The equivalent on the railway would be, if you join the queue in line with the guidelines, but have not reached the front in time, you are allowed to pay on the train, or at the destination, without penalty.

Even if you can't buy a ticket at the station all you have to do is approach the guard and they will sell you one 99 times out of a 100.

Really ? Just to use two examples - First Capital Connect have no guards; South West Trains have many non-commercial guards. These two companies alone run many more than 1 train in 100.



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Supporters who just can't wait to boo their own..............

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Supporters who just can't wait to boo their own..............

Wolves top of the list, usually.


In my experience that would apply to just about every side in the Premiership. When I went to the Emirates in 2009-10 some of the Arsenal fans were having a go at their players even though they were winning!! I'm told by an Arsenal supporting mate that the reason for this is the proliferation of glory hunters that follow the team and will except nothing less than glorious, attacking football at all times. For some of them winning is no longer enough. Crazy



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Wolves top of the list, usually.


Might be Villa this year!

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One thing that annoyed me at Gobowen station last Saturday is that the announcements were in Welsh first and English second.
Gobowen despite the name is in Shropshire,England.
The local hospital also has English and Welsh on its signs, although the word 'Hospital' does not appear in Welsh!
There must be more people in that part of the country that speak Urdu,Gujarati or Polish as a first language than Welsh, and that would even apply if you crossed the nearby border.
Incidentally I once saw a police car in Northampton with 'Heddlu' on it.
Is this a Celtic conspiracy to spread their incomprehensible language to more civilised parts of the country?Smile



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Gobowen has probably been invaded by the Welsh but no-one has noticed. Audlem has already been liberated, apparently the old farts of this Crewe suburb wanted out.



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Is it not true that in the land of the six-fingered, an Englishman is
still allowed to grab any Welsh slapper of his own choosing and do with
her what he will?




FA Vase semi programme wanted: 2001 Taunton v Clitheroe.



jrev61
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Is it not true that in the land of the six-fingered, an Englishman is
still allowed to grab any Welsh slapper of his own choosing and do with
her what he will?

Does that include Charlotte Church?



jrev61


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I am officially cheesed off already with poxy Evo-Stik.

Can we get straight to the point here. They are the Northern Premier League, the Southern League and for the record, the Isthmian League. Everything else is incidental and should be ignored.
RIP Zamaretto? I don't think so.
And please Gareth, the possessive term 'their' is not spelled 'there'.
It's been a long day.


blackdouglas
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Jun 23, 2011, 2:18 PM

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Posters who just hit reply on the last post on a thread instead of the post their reply is aimed at!!!



Northwood, Threave Rovers, Arsenal, Rangers (the real ones, NOT qpr),Watford, Rochdale, queen of the south and a few others.


dottirofhod
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Quite agree with you !



July 1, 2019 to June 30,2020 = 127 / 107 / 20 / 5 x 0-0's. (You know my rules) @ 07 / 12 / 2019 . Belgium top 5 tiers 0-0-0-(0-1-0)-(0-1-1-2) / Holland top 4 tiers - 0-0-0-(0-0) / Lux top 2 tiers 0 -2. England top 10 tiers - 0. Now blogging at https://eccentricity.video.blog/



Isaac
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The National Blood Service have seriously annoyed me, my appointment to give blood tomorrow has been canceled for the THIRD time because of staff shortages, the next available appointment is in three weeks time!


Afraid this is the sort of thing you will have to get used to now the Cameron/Clegg show is in town.



I agree about the Cameron/Clegg show but better not get political.

I finally managed to give blood today, nothing too it and very worthwhile, even get something to eat and drink afterwards and some lovely nurses to chat tooWink


DonQuixote
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Well that certainly debunks the 'not out of a stone' myth then....




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Isaac
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Well that certainly debunks the 'not out of a stone' myth then....



Indeed, they did warn me that I'd feel a prick but I said that's how I normally felt anywayWink


DavetheGlassboy
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Jun 23, 2011, 10:57 PM

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Is it not true that in the land of the six-fingered, an Englishman is
still allowed to grab any Welsh slapper of his own choosing and do with
her what he will?

Does that include Charlotte Church?


Oh I do hope so!



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Last game: as above
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Is it not true that in the land of the six-fingered, an Englishman is
still allowed to grab any Welsh slapper of his own choosing and do with
her what he will?

Does that include Charlotte Church?


Oh I do hope so!

Know your market. Tongue



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splodge
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Bloody HR Departments

Work wanted me to see a specialist for my leg problems through the BUPA cover I had through work.

After 4 consultations BUPA decided that it wasn't something they cover so I had to stop seeing the specialist.

HR said don't worry we'll still pay the specialists upto date. They clearly haven't as since November I've had 3 separate invoices from the specialists only to be told don't worry we will pay it every time.

Well they clearly haven't as this morning I received a letter from a debt recovery company. I have forwarded this to the HR department and advised the D.R.C. to contact HR direct in future but no doubt I will be inundated with letters and phone calls until the payment has been made.



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Drivers who do not indicate and drivers who refuse to acknowledge you when you pull in for them to allow them to pass . Bloody infuriating !



I need to have the last word, as it always looks as if I am right !


DavetheGlassboy
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White van drivers.

Especially those that try to ram themselves up your exhaust pipe (and no, that's not a sexual euphemism!) as happened to me yesterday.

Then again, it was probably my own fault for only doing 40mph on a 40mph road.



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DavetheGlassboy
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And don't get me started on cyclists that seem to think that road traffic laws don't actually apply to them.

(A bit like BMW drivers TBH).



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jrev61
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And don't get me started on cyclists that seem to think that road traffic laws don't actually apply to them.

(A bit like BMW drivers TBH).

Not all road traffic laws do apply to cylclists, for example I don't have to tax, insure or have an MOT for my bicycle!



jrev61


paignton-nick
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Fireworks being let off before Bonfire Night. Had some going off in Torbay earlier this eveningMad



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Buckland Athletic- Pride of South Devon!


oxpete
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The phrase "Soccer mom".


UKPunk
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White van drivers.

Especially those that try to ram themselves up your exhaust pipe (and no, that's not a sexual euphemism!) as happened to me yesterday.

Then again, it was probably my own fault for only doing 40mph on a 40mph road.

On the occasions when I'm not in a rush and that happens to me I just slow down and hold them up even more. Sometimes they 'get it' and back off and I go back to the speed limit. Those that are too thick to get the message find themselves getting to their destination later than if they'd given me some room.

I'm waiting for the day when I'll have the opportunity to get out and speak to one of the 'thicker' types directly.



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Moorsider
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Jun 28, 2011, 3:20 PM

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And don't get me started on cyclists that seem to think that road traffic laws don't actually apply to them.

(A bit like BMW drivers TBH).

Not all road traffic laws do apply to cylclists, for example I don't have to tax, insure or have an MOT for my bicycle!



Well, many people think perhaps you should. And probably throw in an official cycling test too before being allowed on the public highway.



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UKPunk
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And don't get me started on cyclists that seem to think that road traffic laws don't actually apply to them.

(A bit like BMW drivers TBH).

Not all road traffic laws do apply to cylclists, for example I don't have to tax, insure or have an MOT for my bicycle!



Well, many people think perhaps you should. And probably throw in an official cycling test too before being allowed on the public highway.


As a cyclist myself I entirely agree with you. I think everyone should have to pass a cycle proficiency teat before they are allowed on the road.

I'd also make those people who drive electric motability vehicles take a test as well. Not only are they dangerous, it is questionable just how many people in the Clacton area who use them are compos mentis enough to do so safely.

As an example my mother-in-law wants one but we've refused to sanction it as we know she'd kill someone within a week!! Crazy



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jrev61
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I did pass a Cycling Proficiency test when I was about 8.
It was at the second attempt, the first time the front wheel came off the bike!
If cyclists have to take tests, then this should also apply to pedestrians, especially women with prams.



jrev61


garethwrexy
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Jun 28, 2011, 8:17 PM

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low flying planes at night !



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dottirofhod
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Jul 1, 2011, 1:47 AM

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Far too many in normal life so will stick to this Forum.
1. Too many posters asking simple questions which can easily be answered by looking themselves. E.g. I'll be in Manchester on Saturday , any games, how do I get to ground etc.
2. People asking for fixtures / cup draws months before they come out !
3. Posters not adding a clickable link.
4. Hacks having a go at the grammar of certain posters. They should concentrate on checking there facts for there next article.
4. Pretend know alls , this site abounds with them.
5. People posting on the 'Football Where did you Go' that they went a Rugby/Cricket match which they have added to the 'Other Sports Section , if I was at all interested in those sports I would have looked there in the first place !
6. Posting something and then saying more details/full story are on my blog at -----------.
7. Signatures of posters , what a bunch of posers. Have all signatures not showing , but look occasionally for a laugh.
8. The sycophants , not too many but one certain Worcestershire one springs to mind.
9. The ingratitude of a few , there are some on here I will not answer.
Finger hurting , bed time. May carry on tomorrow, 'Gud night'
Continued,
10.Posters not accepting their mistakes and trying to squirm out of it.
11.Posters insisting on repeating a post in full when replying to it instead of just the relevant point.
11 (A). Posters insisting on repeating a post in full when replying to it instead of just the relevant point should be stopped.
12.Posters insisting on posting in 'Where are you going' when they have no idea. Then changing mind umpteen times and insisting on telling all.
13.Mods deleting personal messages and binning a load of useful info.
14.Last worders. Insisting on finishing an argument when losing it.
15. No kick off times mentioned especially when doubles/trebles attempted, I like working out how much of each game you miss.
16.Posters putting wrong scores down through leaving early , one poster has done it twice recently.
17. Posting reams of fixtures when a link would suffice.
18. Posts being deleted on the whim of an individual without explanation.
19. People with no balls and not having their reply privately option enabled.
20. Womens football on Where did you go, there is a womens section.
21. Repetitive posting, its not too difficult to check with the search posts option.
22. Advertising.
23. Journalists.
24. People who complain a lot.



July 1, 2019 to June 30,2020 = 127 / 107 / 20 / 5 x 0-0's. (You know my rules) @ 07 / 12 / 2019 . Belgium top 5 tiers 0-0-0-(0-1-0)-(0-1-1-2) / Holland top 4 tiers - 0-0-0-(0-0) / Lux top 2 tiers 0 -2. England top 10 tiers - 0. Now blogging at https://eccentricity.video.blog/



(This post was edited by dottirofhod on Jul 1, 2011, 12:52 PM)


UKPunk
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7. Signatures of posters , what a bunch of posers. Have all signatures not showing , but look occasionally for a laugh.

That reminds me, I must update my signature seeing as today is the first day of the new season. Tongue



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Far too many in normal life so will stick to this Forum.
1. Too many posters asking simple questions which can easily be answered by looking themselves. E.g. I'll be in Manchester on Saturday , any games, how do I get to ground etc.
2. People asking for fixtures / cup draws months before they come out !
3. Posters not adding a clickable link.
4. Hacks having a go at the grammar of certain posters. They should concentrate on checking there facts for there next article.
4. Pretend know alls , this site abounds with them.
5. People posting on the 'Football Where did you Go' that they went a Rugby/Cricket match which they have added to the 'Other Sports Section , if I was at all interested in those sports I would have looked there in the first place !
6. Posting something and then saying more details/full story are on my blog at -----------.
7. Signatures of posters , what a bunch of posers. Have all signatures not showing , but look occasionally for a laugh.
8. The sycophants , not too many but one certain Worcestershire one springs to mind.
9. The ingratitude of a few , there are some on here I will not answer.
Finger hurting , bed time. May carry on tomorrow, 'Gud night'
Continued,
10.Posters not accepting their mistakes and trying to squirm out of it.
11.Posters insisting on repeating a post in full when replying to it instead of just the relevant point.
11 (A). Posters insisting on repeating a post in full when replying to it instead of just the relevant point should be stopped.
12.Posters insisting on posting in 'Where are you going' when they have no idea. Then changing mind umpteen times and insisting on telling all.
13.Mods deleting personal messages and binning a load of useful info.
14.Last worders. Insisting on finishing an argument when losing it.
15. No kick off times mentioned especially when doubles/trebles attempted, I like working out how much of each game you miss.
16.Posters putting wrong scores down through leaving early , one poster has done it twice recently.
17. Posting reams of fixtures when a link would suffice.
18. Posts being deleted on the whim of an individual without explanation.
19. People with no balls and not having their reply privately option enabled.
20. Womens football on Where did you go, there is a womens section.
21. Repetitive posting, its not too difficult to check with the search posts option.
22. Advertising.
23. Journalists.
24. People who complain a lot.


I'm going to one of three as yet to be decided rugby league matches this weekend, fixtures can be found here



Proud spectator of real football.

Hop, hop, hopping on heaven's door


dottirofhod
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Jul 1, 2011, 1:23 PM

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11.Posters insisting on repeating a post in full when replying to it instead of just the relevant point.
11 (A). Posters insisting on repeating a post in full when replying to it instead of just the relevant point should be stopped.


I'm going to one of three as yet to be decided rugby league matches this weekend, fixtures can be found here


Thank you Eddie, read 11 and 11A.



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Chapeltom
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Jul 1, 2011, 2:03 PM

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Lets have a look at how many of these 24 annoyances I'm in breach of...

2. People asking for fixtures / cup draws months before they come out ! - Guilty
3. Posters not adding a clickable link. - Guilty on a couple of occasions
7. Signatures of posters , what a bunch of posers. Have all signatures not showing , but look occasionally for a laugh. - Guilty
9. The ingratitude of a few , there are some on here I will not answer. - Possibly guilty of this?
Continued,
10.Posters not accepting their mistakes and trying to squirm out of it. - Same answer as 9
12.Posters insisting on posting in 'Where are you going' when they have no idea. Then changing mind umpteen times and insisting on telling all. - Definitely guilty, but games change for a reason!
15. No kick off times mentioned especially when doubles/trebles attempted, I like working out how much of each game you miss. - Especially guilty at times, though not as much as I once was!
16.Posters putting wrong scores down through leaving early , one poster has done it twice recently. - Never done this, always check the correct score before posting
21. Repetitive posting, its not too difficult to check with the search posts option. - Maybe guilty
23. Journalists. - I could be guilty of this but most journalists and news corps have their own agenda.
24. People who complain a lot - Guilty of this one I think

So I'm either guilty of or possibly guilty of 11/24 annoyances... I better keep my mouth shut!! Cool




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dottirofhod
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Jul 1, 2011, 2:12 PM

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But at least your honest Tom , just try to do better in the future.



July 1, 2019 to June 30,2020 = 127 / 107 / 20 / 5 x 0-0's. (You know my rules) @ 07 / 12 / 2019 . Belgium top 5 tiers 0-0-0-(0-1-0)-(0-1-1-2) / Holland top 4 tiers - 0-0-0-(0-0) / Lux top 2 tiers 0 -2. England top 10 tiers - 0. Now blogging at https://eccentricity.video.blog/



garethwrexy
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Jul 1, 2011, 3:04 PM

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radio 4 its so dull !



wrexham fc fa trophy winners 2013 !


Moorsider
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Jul 1, 2011, 3:30 PM

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Those warning notices on packets of nuts, you know, the ones that say

"Warning, may contain nuts !"


blackdouglas
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Jul 1, 2011, 3:54 PM

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Like a certain supermarket's frozen mixed veg says

"Suitable for Vegetarians"

Now someone please tell me, what sort of frozen mixed veg wouldn't be suitable for the veggies?



Northwood, Threave Rovers, Arsenal, Rangers (the real ones, NOT qpr),Watford, Rochdale, queen of the south and a few others.


garethwrexy
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Jul 1, 2011, 4:06 PM

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the train to wrexham is delayed by 5 minutes ! gets on my wick.



wrexham fc fa trophy winners 2013 !


sjosta
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Jul 1, 2011, 4:57 PM

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Lets have a look at how many of these 24 annoyances I'm in breach of...

16.Posters putting wrong scores down through leaving early , one poster has done it twice recently.

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I suppose that was me ... but I insist that I only did it once; the penalty shoot out at the end of the game has no bearing on the score of the game! It may affect the result, but I don't go for the result, I go for the football.


Nothing really annoys me though; I'm so Effen cool, oh apart from ................ (see my blog)




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the train to wrexham is delayed by 5 minutes ! gets on my wick.



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