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I concur re-John Peel but 6 music do a decent job these days, especially in the evening. Gideon Coe and Marc Riley are excellent.

There are a multitude of great acts out there, and its easier to find them than it used to be, go seek and be merry




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bring back John Peel and his love of Captain Beefheart et al...compulsory listening on a Sunday evening around 7pm if my memory serves me well, which is unlikely...


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I used to get collectables from Adrians years ago! Nice to know they are still going.

As to Radio, I have a huge issue with the BBC over this. Radio 2 was actually becoming quite interesting for a while until they decided it was taking too many listeners off Radio One and put some ban on playing too many new releases. Then they decided "too many dads" listened to Radio One, so appear to have banned them playing anything that appeals to anyone with a mental age of over 8.

That leaves anyone between the ages of 8 and 58 with nothing but "Heart"! yet within that age group are those very people, who grew up with pop music as a key part of their life, who are driving the boom is physical media sales....

Digital Radio is all very well, but largely isn't available in cars as yet, and thats where I listen to Radio most, and I doubt I am alone in that.



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who are driving the boom is physical media sales

You should tell HMV about this boom. They would be really pleased to hear about it.


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Radio 6 as my online listening. If you took in Marc Riley last night you'd have heard blasts from the past from Killing Joke & Jonathan Richman, plus a whole load of new stuff not aired on other stations. I like Riley as he doesn't really go down the obvious Muse, Kings of Leon route that other presenters are keen on.


It's not necessarily the presenters being keen on things - they have limited playlists so have to pretend to like stuff. Very few djs have free range to play what they want. Radio 6 probably has more than most stations though. Bands need to find out these things so they know who to send records / cds to. There's no point sending stuff to a dj who's not allowed to play your record.


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who are driving the boom is physical media sales

You should tell HMV about this boom. They would be really pleased to hear about it.


They were given ideas a year ago how to save their company. They met the writer of this blog and told him he was wrong. He's probably worked in the music industry longer than the HMV staff he met...

http://croydonmunicipal.blogspot.co.uk/

As I mentioned earlier, Rough Trade are booming. Now HMV are gone they're talking on Twitter about opening more shops around the country.


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You should tell HMV about this boom. They would be really pleased to hear about it.


A number of posts on here have referred to it, both vinyl and CD sales have increased over recent years. HMV just wan't interested. I am sure they had their own reasons but chasing after the most congested and competitive market sectors was a strategy doomed to failure, which is indeed what has happened. Why go to HMV for a chart CD when its on sale at your local Tesco let alone available on Amazon?



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bring back John Peel and his love of Captain Beefheart et al...compulsory listening on a Sunday evening around 7pm if my memory serves me well, which is unlikely...

Coincidentally I was playing the Clear Spot album on Wednesday night.



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I used to get collectables from Adrians years ago! Nice to know they are still going.

As to Radio, I have a huge issue with the BBC over this. Radio 2 was actually becoming quite interesting for a while until they decided it was taking too many listeners off Radio One and put some ban on playing too many new releases. Then they decided "too many dads" listened to Radio One, so appear to have banned them playing anything that appeals to anyone with a mental age of over 8.

That leaves anyone between the ages of 8 and 58 with nothing but "Heart"! yet within that age group are those very people, who grew up with pop music as a key part of their life, who are driving the boom is physical media sales....

Digital Radio is all very well, but largely isn't available in cars as yet, and thats where I listen to Radio most, and I doubt I am alone in that.

Some Numpty at work put KISS FM on yesterday. It was even worse than Radio 1 for mindless dance music and even more repetitive than Heart.
One 'song' was played 3 times in 6 hours and I gave up counting at 7 Rhianna tracks.



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Sounds dreadful. Heart actually use tapes. I go to a gym where it is constantly on, and after Whacko Jacko died the same sequence of songs was on each time I went in (I was going at the same time each night) for about two weeks. Their DJ's must have such an easy job!

I saw part of the xmas "Top of The Pops" whilst in a pub. Although a lot of it was to me rubbish, I did notice that everyone played/sang live, and I won't knock that, until we got to what I assume was some X Factor shit that was the number one. This clown couldn't even mime properly and got out of sync a couple of times to the backing track. There was no pretence that it was a live performance. Sometimes I despair that people are sucked in by this...



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Not a "proper record shop" but has anyone else used the That's Entertainment chain.
I believe they are part of musicmagpie and sell second hand CD's called replays.
Managed to get Quadrophenia by The Who for 2.99 in the Wolverhampton branch which I had been looking for a cheap copy of for ages.
Are there any other branches of Fopp apart from in Nottingham city centre?


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Interesting. Thats Entertainment are allegedly putting Proper shops out of business, at least, they did for the one in Swindon when they opened. The owner actually said to me "thats us finished". I had a look around the one there but thought it had a very odd selection of stuff. Quite a lot of late Indie/ Britpop back catalogue, absolutely no Rock and Metal. Not somewhere I wold go again.

I haven't seen a Fopp for a few years but I used to frequent the one in Edinburgh just off Royal Mile in the 80s. I think that was one of the original branches. Much more focussed on later years than HMV, despite being owned by them, though I have never seen one outside Scotland.



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Fopp locations - http://www.foppreturns.com/stores/


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Backin the 70`s there used to be decent record shops in Crowthorne (Got my first ever records there) and Sandhurst. Sometimes went up to The Vintage Record Shop at Caledonian Road for Oldies and imports, got some Rare Stones singles there, now all gone (The Record shops not the stones singles).



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who are driving the boom is physical media sales

You should tell HMV about this boom. They would be really pleased to hear about it.


Indeed. Physical music down about 30% in the first six months of 2012.

Vinyl sales, I believe, were up in 2012 but from such a pitifully small base as not to be really significant.


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who are driving the boom is physical media sales

You should tell HMV about this boom. They would be really pleased to hear about it.


Indeed. Physical music down about 30% in the first six months of 2012.

Vinyl sales, I believe, were up in 2012 but from such a pitifully small base as not to be really significant.


You can see the full years figures at: http://www.musicweek.com/...t-record-high/053002

That doesn't include the second hand market though.


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Fourth time lucky!


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Some Numpty at work put KISS FM on yesterday. It was even worse than Radio 1 for mindless dance music and even more repetitive tha.Heart.
One 'song' was played 3 times in 6 hours and I gave up counting at 7 Rhianna tracks.

I wouldn't really call Kiss a dance station. It has sadly become an urban version of a pop music station, cutting/editing songs to death. So repetitive. A pale shadow of how I remember it in the early/mid 90s.

Agree about Heart as well, playing poor music variety, aimed at thirty something dummy mummies who think the capital of Spain is Gibraltar, and whose knowledge of 80s music extends as far as the Dirty Dancing and Footloose soundtracks. All the while these radio asset strippers con their gullible listeners into thinking they are still listening to their local station previously known as Fox, Broadland etc, when all but breakfast and drive and weekend afternoons come from London.

Thank goodness I still keep my eclectic music selections and burnt them onto CD's over the years. Beats the homogenous radio we have these days, a far cry from the days when I would listen to Essex Radio or Radio 1 and constantly hear something slightly left field.

Must go back to Adrians now...



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Crash Records also in Leeds

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Interesting. Thats Entertainment are allegedly putting Proper shops out of business, at least, they did for the one in Swindon when they opened. The owner actually said to me "thats us finished". I had a look around the one there but thought it had a very odd selection of stuff. Quite a lot of late Indie/ Britpop back catalogue, absolutely no Rock and Metal. Not somewhere I wold go again.


Visited the one in Northampton for the first time, didn't realise they were second-hand as the cd's are sold in good condition. I did wonder how come they had so many deleted 90's 'indie albums' selling at 3 for a fiver.

I'm not convinced that 'proper' record shops should worry about this chain, although there were plenty of 'gems' to be had they really cater for the mainstream market. There was loads of metal in this store btw.


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Record Collector; 233 Fulwood Rd, Sheffield - a good choice of new and second hand, CD and vinyl.


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Interesting. Thats Entertainment are allegedly putting Proper shops out of business, at least, they did for the one in Swindon when they opened. The owner actually said to me "thats us finished". I had a look around the one there but thought it had a very odd selection of stuff. Quite a lot of late Indie/ Britpop back catalogue, absolutely no Rock and Metal. Not somewhere I wold go again.


Visited the one in Northampton for the first time, didn't realise they were second-hand as the cd's are sold in good condition. I did wonder how come they had so many deleted 90's 'indie albums' selling at 3 for a fiver.

I'm not convinced that 'proper' record shops should worry about this chain, although there were plenty of 'gems' to be had they really cater for the mainstream market. There was loads of metal in this store btw.

I bought Echobelly's ON album at the Leicester 'Thats Entertainment' for 99p. It's absolutely brilliant and I've since bought their first album for 1.99 from one of their shops. The 1990's are my favourite era for music. Also brought CDs by Garbage,Lush,Saint Etienne and the Sundays. Didn't have to pay more than 1.99 for any of them.



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Excellent purchases JR.

I spent 11 in Northampton Saturday and bought

Boo Radleys - Giant Steps
Boo Radleys - C'mon Kids
Deejay Punk-Roc- Chickeneye
Northern Uproar - Northern Uproar
Super Furry Animals - Out Spaced
Young Knives - Superabundance

and Alfie (the original one) on DVD.

Money well spent. Also visited CEX in Walsall during the ice and snow and picked up 9 albums for 8.20 including REM, The Sundays, Verve etc.

I'm looking forward to this period of cd buying before they become obsolete.


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Me and my Uncle go to an independent about 2 miles from us called

Rollin Records
6 Station Road, West Wickham Kent, BR4 0PR

They seem to tick over okay which is helped i guess by having an online store too.

www.rollinrecordsuk.com


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Not a "proper record shop" but has anyone else used the That's Entertainment chain.
I believe they are part of musicmagpie and sell second hand CD's called replays.
Managed to get Quadrophenia by The Who for 2.99 in the Wolverhampton branch which I had been looking for a cheap copy of for ages.
Are there any other branches of Fopp apart from in Nottingham city centre?



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Found a good independent record shop recently, The Groove, at 14 Reading Road, Henley-On-Thames (it used to be called 'Henley Records' and was further down the road past the railway station). Plenty of both new and second hand vinyl records, and they run a regular music pub quiz at the Bird In Hand pub.

Further up the same street, close to the main crossroads in the centre of Henley, is a particularly good Oxfam Music & Book Shop. Obviously charity shops by their nature can be abit hit-or-miss, but the Henley Oxfam one seems to conjure up gems on a regular enough basis.

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