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I didn't realise there are a few changes from last season so here's the line-up with any changes in bold.
Line-ups taken from the NCEL website - http://www.barisncel.co.uk/league/rules/appendixa/

Step 7

Anglian Combination Premier Div
Central Midlands League Div North
Central Midlands League Div South
Cheshire League Div 1
Dorset Premier League
Essex Olympian League Premier Div
Gloucestershire County League Premier Div (was 7A)
Herts Senior County League Premier Div
Humber Premier League Premier Div
Leicestershire Senior League Premier Div
Liverpool County Premier League Premier Div (was 7A)
Midland Combination Div 1
Northern Football Alliance Premier Div
Peterborough & District League Premier Div
Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League Premier Div
Somerset County League Premier Div
South West Peninsula League Div 1 East (was 7A)
South West Peninsula League Div 1 West (was 7A)

Staffordshire County Senior League Premier Div
Suffolk & Ipswich League Senior Div
Wearside League
West Cheshire League Div 1
West Midlands (Regional) League Div 1
West Yorkshire League Premier Div
Wiltshire Football League Premier Div

7A

Bedfordshire County League Premier Div
Cambridgeshire County League Premier Div
Essex & Suffolk Border League Premier Div
Hampshire Premier League Senior Div
Manchester Football League Premier Div
Middlesex County League Premier Div
Northamptonshire Combination Premier Div
Nottinghamshire Senior League Senior Div
Oxfordshire Senior League Premier Div
Reading Football League Senior Div
West Lancashire League Premier Div
York Football League Premier Div (new)

7B

Kent County League Premier Div
Spartan South Midlands League Div 2
Surrey Elite Intermediate League Intermediate Div
West Riding County Amateur League Premier Div (new)

No longer step 7

Sussex League Division 3
Teesside League Division 1



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I didn't realise there are a few changes from last season so here's the line-up with any changes in bold.
Line-ups taken from the NCEL website - http://www.barisncel.co.uk/league/rules/appendixa/

Step 7

Anglian Combination Premier Div
Central Midlands League Div North
Central Midlands League Div South
Cheshire League Div 1
Dorset Premier League
Essex Olympian League Premier Div
Gloucestershire County League Premier Div (was 7A)
Herts Senior County League Premier Div
Humber Premier League Premier Div
Leicestershire Senior League Premier Div
Liverpool County Premier League Premier Div (was 7A)
Midland Combination Div 1
Northern Football Alliance Premier Div
Peterborough & District League Premier Div
Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League Premier Div
Somerset County League Premier Div
South West Peninsula League Div 1 East (was 7A)
South West Peninsula League Div 1 West (was 7A)

Staffordshire County Senior League Premier Div
Suffolk & Ipswich League Senior Div
Wearside League
West Cheshire League Div 1
West Midlands (Regional) League Div 1
West Yorkshire League Premier Div
Wiltshire Football League Premier Div

7A

Bedfordshire County League Premier Div
Cambridgeshire County League Premier Div
Essex & Suffolk Border League Premier Div
Hampshire Premier League Senior Div
Manchester Football League Premier Div
Middlesex County League Premier Div
Northamptonshire Combination Premier Div
Nottinghamshire Senior League Senior Div
Oxfordshire Senior League Premier Div
Reading Football League Senior Div
West Lancashire League Premier Div
York Football League Premier Div (new)

7B

Kent County League Premier Div
Spartan South Midlands League Div 2
Surrey Elite Intermediate League Intermediate Div
West Riding County Amateur League Premier Div (new)

No longer step 7

Sussex League Division 3
Teesside League Division 1


Very strange - Redcar Athletic have just handed in their resignation from the Teesside League - basically being ordered to by the FA as the club cannot have two teams playing at Step 7 next season! I wonder if the club know they don't have to resign now?


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I didn't realise there are a few changes from last season so here's the line-up with any changes in bold.
Line-ups taken from the NCEL website - http://www.barisncel.co.uk/league/rules/appendixa/

Step 7

Anglian Combination Premier Div
Central Midlands League Div North
Central Midlands League Div South
Cheshire League Div 1
Dorset Premier League
Essex Olympian League Premier Div
Gloucestershire County League Premier Div (was 7A)
Herts Senior County League Premier Div
Humber Premier League Premier Div
Leicestershire Senior League Premier Div
Liverpool County Premier League Premier Div (was 7A)
Midland Combination Div 1
Northern Football Alliance Premier Div
Peterborough & District League Premier Div
Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League Premier Div
Somerset County League Premier Div
South West Peninsula League Div 1 East (was 7A)
South West Peninsula League Div 1 West (was 7A)

Staffordshire County Senior League Premier Div
Suffolk & Ipswich League Senior Div
Wearside League
West Cheshire League Div 1
West Midlands (Regional) League Div 1
West Yorkshire League Premier Div
Wiltshire Football League Premier Div

7A

Bedfordshire County League Premier Div
Cambridgeshire County League Premier Div
Essex & Suffolk Border League Premier Div
Hampshire Premier League Senior Div
Manchester Football League Premier Div
Middlesex County League Premier Div
Northamptonshire Combination Premier Div
Nottinghamshire Senior League Senior Div
Oxfordshire Senior League Premier Div
Reading Football League Senior Div
West Lancashire League Premier Div
York Football League Premier Div (new)

7B

Kent County League Premier Div
Spartan South Midlands League Div 2
Surrey Elite Intermediate League Intermediate Div
West Riding County Amateur League Premier Div (new)

No longer step 7

Sussex League Division 3
Teesside League Division 1


Very strange - Redcar Athletic have just handed in their resignation from the Teesside League - basically being ordered to by the FA as the club cannot have two teams playing at Step 7 next season! I wonder if the club know they don't have to resign now?


Or maybe the list is inaccurate ?


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Or maybe the list is inaccurate ?


The FA haven't updated their handbook for next season online yet so it's possibly only a draft but I can't see why they'd release it to the leagues if it wasn't correct.


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I received the updated list (as above) from the FA a week or so ago for inclusion in next seasons league handbooks etc



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Or maybe the list is inaccurate ?


The FA haven't updated their handbook for next season online yet so it's possibly only a draft but I can't see why they'd release it to the leagues if it wasn't correct.


Is it a mere coincidence that the Teesside League and Sussex D3 were the only two Step 7 leagues to end the season with less than 14 teams? Could this be the reason they have lost their Step 7 status?

Maybe if the Teesside League move back up to 14 in their top division over the summer in readniess for next season they'll regain the status back.

Sussex D3 is in tatters and comes as no shock its lost Step 7 status at all. It should not have been granted the status last season, kicking off with just 12 members!

Barnahm are merging with Wick, TD Shipley have folded, Haywards Heath Town and Sidlesham are Div 2 bound and due to Div One losing four sides (possibly 5 with Sidley in grave danger) there'll be no one dropping from Div 2 to Div Three.

That leaves Division Three with just 8 clubs! Unless the SCL find 6 clubs over the summer, quite how its going to survive this close season at all is a mystery!


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I had thought that Sidlesham FC were against taking promotion?

Mind you, even if so originally, a change of heart would be entirely understandable!



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The York Premier League is to be congratulated for achieving its step7A tatus for the 2013-14 season, however it may be all for naught if this story from the York Press is accurate!


THE future of the 116-year-old York Premier League is under threat.
Officials issued a stark warning that the 94-team competition could collapse if a new secretary is not found for the 2013/14 season.
Peter Gibson is stepping down from the role at the league’s annual general meeting on Wednesday after seven years in the post and 34 years on the committee.
Chairman John Jeffery said it was critical a new secretary was in place before the end of the AGM, which will be held at Wigginton Recreation Hall, at 7pm.
The league, formed in 1897, boasts 94 teams across nine divisions, with the flagship premier division recently earning a listing at Step 7 in the Football Association’s non-league pyramid.
Jeffery said: “If we don’t have someone in place it would bring the league to a standstill, which would mean no football for about 3,500 players in York next season.
“I’m desperately looking for someone to take it on. There is no one on the committee who can take it on because they have all got other jobs to do.
“We have put it out to all the clubs because I don’t think people realise that with no secretary there will be no football. That would be devastating after 100-odd years.”
Jeffery said he would be informing the North Riding County Football Association of the league’s predicament, although he remained hopeful of filling the position.
He said: “There should be representatives from 60 or 70 clubs at the AGM and I’m hoping that somebody stands up and says they are interested to do it with some advice.”
Jeffery paid tribute to Gibson’s contribution, saying: “He has spent all his life in football and has been the cornerstone of the organisation.
“It is one of those times when you say ‘enjoy your retirement’ but we are going to miss him.”
Gibson’s association with the league goes back to his debut as a 15-year-old player for British Sugar in 1956.
The 71-year-old later served as club manager, secretary and chairman before joining the league committee in 1979.
He said: “I have had seven years as secretary and I’ve enjoyed it, but I’m getting a bit long in the tooth now. It needs someone younger.”



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Langney Wanderers have been promoted to Division 3 of the Sussex League and Siddlesham , I believe have not taken promotion . So they have 10 clubs and plans are afoot to play each other 3 times instead of twice


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Can a league with a staggering 94 teams REALLY fold? Really????????? Seems bizarre, what would happen to those 94 clubs?


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Langney Wanderers have been promoted to Division 3 of the Sussex League and Siddlesham , I believe have not taken promotion . So they have 10 clubs and plans are afoot to play each other 3 times instead of twice


Well thats progress isn't it....NOT!

Why don't they just admit defeat and do the sensible thing, scrap it, redistribute the clubs to the feeders and elevate the feeders to Step 7 directly below County Div Two?

The suggestion above just sounds like a stubborn bunch of people refusing to let a pointless out-of-place, division die! Why Langney or Sidlesham would want to be associated with it I don't know!


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No mention of the Mercian league in any of the three lists?

Guess they have been awarded step 6 status then Wink


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Can a league with a staggering 94 teams REALLY fold? Really????????? Seems bizarre, what would happen to those 94 clubs?


Welcome to the Yorkshire Amateur league!

Or.. the Selby league could get th elease of life it needs!


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That would mean there would be Selby teams in the Selby league at last !



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Anyone know when the Central Midlands League and Nottinghamshire Senior League will be revealing their constitutions?


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Langney Wanderers have been promoted to Division 3 of the Sussex League and Siddlesham , I believe have not taken promotion . So they have 10 clubs and plans are afoot to play each other 3 times instead of twice


Confirmed tonight Sidlesham not taken promotion due to cost, Plans for Divisional cup to be Home & Away.



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Most likely after the AGMs. I believe the Central Midlands League AGM is next Tuesday. Learned friend Rob Hornby is at the NSL AGM on I believe this Thursday evening.



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Have the West Lancashire League not applied for Step 7 status at all? Its probably one of the better "below Step 6" leagues in terms of facilities/playing standards.


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It is at 7A. See post 2!Laugh


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It is at 7A. See post 2!Laugh


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Can a league with a staggering 94 teams REALLY fold? Really????????? Seems bizarre, what would happen to those 94 clubs?

I can't believe the committee would seriously allow that to happen. More likely the article is an advertisement for the role!


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What is the significance of step 7 7A 7B ?


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The number of clubs with adequate facilities I think.


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They're all the same level and able to promote to step 6 so I don't know why the FA are sub-dividing it.
The criteria may have changed slightly but this is what it was when it started:

"With regard to the membership within each level, the following will apply:

Step 7 – Minimum of 16 clubs
Step 7A – Minimum of 14 Clubs
Step 7B – Minimum of 12 Clubs

In order for a league to qualify to be placed at each level the following minimum % of clubs MUST comply fully with the new Grade I.

Step 7 – Minimum 75% achieving Grade I
Step 7A – Minimum 50% achieving Grade I
Step 7B – Minimum 25% achieving Grade I

At Step 7 there will be a maximum of 25% of member clubs as classified as reserve sides of teams playing at a higher level in the National League System.

There will be no restrictions with regard to the number of reserve teams playing in leagues classified as Step 7A or Step 7B."

Taken from http://www.west-cheshire.org.uk/...article.aspx?id=1652


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If the Sussex D3 is no longer Step 7, does that mean that Sussex D1 and D2 are no longer considered Steps 5/6? In which case D1 will no longer promote to the Isthmian? Otherwise promotion and relegation between D2 and D3 will be a two step jump.


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They're all the same level and able to promote to step 6 so I don't know why the FA are sub-dividing it.

If I remember correctly the reason for sub-dividing it is that the different sub-divisions qualify for different amounts of funding. If a league matches the FA's idea of an ideal Step 7 league it gets more funding than one at 7A or 7B.


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Think they will use the "North West Counties" method. If there is a space at step 6 and there is no one to fill it from step 7, anyone can fill it. So Sussex Three clubs can still go up if they have the ground grading.


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If the Sussex D3 is no longer Step 7, does that mean that Sussex D1 and D2 are no longer considered Steps 5/6? In which case D1 will no longer promote to the Isthmian? Otherwise promotion and relegation between D2 and D3 will be a two step jump.


Only Division Three has losts its status - D1 and D2 still at Step 5 and 6 respectively!


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If the Sussex D3 is no longer Step 7, does that mean that Sussex D1 and D2 are no longer considered Steps 5/6? In which case D1 will no longer promote to the Isthmian? Otherwise promotion and relegation between D2 and D3 will be a two step jump.


Only Division Three has losts its status - D1 and D2 still at Step 5 and 6 respectively!





Yes but if there is automatic promotion and relegation between Division Two and Division Three in the same League then that makes no sense. Or is it not automatic any longer?

I hate this time of year..... it gets so confusing Crazy


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Don't think there is now, clubs have to have the ground grading to go up, and as step 6 is running short of teams not many make the reverse journey these days.


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If the Sussex D3 is no longer Step 7, does that mean that Sussex D1 and D2 are no longer considered Steps 5/6? In which case D1 will no longer promote to the Isthmian? Otherwise promotion and relegation between D2 and D3 will be a two step jump.


Only Division Three has losts its status - D1 and D2 still at Step 5 and 6 respectively!





Yes but if there is automatic promotion and relegation between Division Two and Division Three in the same League then that makes no sense. Or is it not automatic any longer?

I hate this time of year..... it gets so confusing Crazy


The way I look at it is that Sussex Three is still level 11, it's just not step 7 at the moment. The step numbers are just an FA classification, the level numbers are what really matter imho.
There's no such thing as step 8, step 9 etc. although we all use those terms on here for convenience. We should really call them level 12, level 13 and so on.


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They're all the same level and able to promote to step 6 so I don't know why the FA are sub-dividing it.
The criteria may have changed slightly but this is what it was when it started:

"With regard to the membership within each level, the following will apply:

Step 7 – Minimum of 16 clubs
Step 7A – Minimum of 14 Clubs
Step 7B – Minimum of 12 Clubs

In order for a league to qualify to be placed at each level the following minimum % of clubs MUST comply fully with the new Grade I.

Step 7 – Minimum 75% achieving Grade I
Step 7A – Minimum 50% achieving Grade I
Step 7B – Minimum 25% achieving Grade I

At Step 7 there will be a maximum of 25% of member clubs as classified as reserve sides of teams playing at a higher level in the National League System.

There will be no restrictions with regard to the number of reserve teams playing in leagues classified as Step 7A or Step 7B."

Taken from http://www.west-cheshire.org.uk/...article.aspx?id=1652


Has changed since this was printed, there is a restriction on reserve teams


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Has changed since this was printed, there is a restriction on reserve teams


I thought it may have done. I know the grading isn't called Grade 'I' either.

This is from June 2012 found on http://www.pitchero.com/...a-review-602841.html. I hope they haven't changed it again this year!

Step 7 – to be awarded to leagues where 100% of their clubs meet the Step 7 minimum ground grading requirements as at 31 March and the league complies with all other requirements for Step 7 status.

Step 7A – to be awarded to leagues where 75% or more of their clubs meet the Step 7 minimum ground grading requirements as at 31 March and the league complies with all other requirements for Step 7 status.

Step 7B – to be awarded to leagues where 60% or more of their clubs meet the ground grading requirements as at 31 March and the league complies with all other requirements for Step 7 status.

In all cases, there must be a minimum of 14 clubs in membership of a Step 7. Step 7A or Step 7B division with no more than 25% of Membership comprising of reserve teams of clubs competing at a higher level in the National League System.

In future clubs joining a Step 7, Step 7A or Step 7B divisions will be allowed until 31 March in the year following promotion to meet the Step 7 Minimum Grading Requirements or they will be relegated.

The classification awarded to leagues would apply for three years however, it would still be possible for a league to apply annually (by 31 December) for a higher classification if they were of the opinion that they could meet the relevant criteria. It would also still be possible for leagues outside the System to apply on an annual basis (by 31 December) if they were able to meet these requirements.


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Presumedly some leagues are very close to this 60% mark as they appear to be "yo-yo" leagues being Step 7 then not, then back to Step 7 again.

How does it work for a club in, say, Lincolnshire if the nearest league loses Step 7 status but they wish to rise in the ranks and there isn't another league to join at that level?


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We applied last year, the reserves are the sticking point
Once we get down to 4 reserve teams (who should all comply with MGR) we would only require 5 more teams to comply for 7b, which would be achievable


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When we supplied Cleethorpes Town to the pyramid last year and Sleaford Town before that, we had to wait until the step 7 league applicants had been exhausted first.
So although we want to be officially in the pyramid, we can still develop ambitious clubs without turning anyone (reserve) teams away
We are aiming to join the pyramid soon but not by denying teams to play football at county level


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We are aiming to join the pyramid soon but not by denying teams to play football at county level


I think that's the best way. Clubs in non-step 7 leagues can still apply to step 6 - there are so many gaps at the moment that most will probably get in if they have the facilities.
I know when the Surrey Elite first applied and were turned down it didn't bother them too much. They know they'll probably never get 100% of teams with the grading but one thing going for the league is that it has it's own reserve division and there are other reserve leagues in the area so there isn't the demand from higher clubs to have their ressies playing in the league.


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Still waiting on CMFL and Nottinghsmashire Senior League/


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Still waiting on CMFL and Nottinghsmashire Senior League/


and about 15 other Step 7 leagues!!!!


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The York Premier League lists the following clubs for the 2013-14 season on their web site:

Premier Division
Aviva - Promoted from Division 1
Copmanthorpe
Dringhouses
Dunnington - Champions
Easingwold Town
Huntington Rovers
Old Malton St Marys
Poppleton United
Riccall United
Rowntrees
St Clements - Promoted from Division 1
Terrington Glory
Wigginton Grasshoppers
York Railway Institute
York St Johns University

Division 1
Brooklyn (formerly Amotherby & Swinton I believe)
Church Fenton White Horse
Hamilton Panthers - Relegated from Premier Division
Hemingborough United
Malton & Norton
Osbaldwick - Promoted from Division 2
Pocklington Town
Selby RSSC - Relegated from Premier Division
Tadcaster Magnets - Promoted from Division 2
Tockwith
Total Sports United

Division 2
Barmby Moor - Promoted from Division 3
Bishopthorpe United
Cliffe
F1 Racing - Promoted from Division 3
Fulford FC United
Haxby United - Relegated from Division 1
Heslington
Rawcliffe
Strensall
Thorpe United
Wilberfoss - Relegated from Division 1

Division 3
Bishop Wilton
Civil Service
Crayke
Huby United
Ouseburn United
Rufforth United
Selby Olympia
Sporting Knavesmire
Stamford Bridge - Relegated from Division 2
Tadcaster Town - Promoted from Division 4
York Acorn - Promoted from Division 4


Division 4
Cawood - New
Huntington
Kirbymoorside - New
LNER Builders
Melbourne
Moor Lane
Selby Town Reserves
South Milford - New
Wheldrake
Wistow - New

Four new teams listed all in Division 4. I have no information about them although Cawood have appeared before in the league their last season being 2007/8. Only one team has not reappeared from last season, Elvington Harriers.
The only other snippet I can glean is that Selby RSSC were relegated from the Premier despite finishing twelfth of fifteen. I do not know the reason for this.


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The NSL AGM was last night, don't see the constitution up yet but have a relative degree of certainty about the Senior Division via teams' Twitters (Don't take this as gospel):

Attenborough
Awsworth Villa
Beeston AFC (Promoted from Division 1)
Bilborough Town
Boots Athletic (Promoted from Division 1)
Burton Joyce
Cotgrave
FC Cavaliers
Hucknall Rolls Leisure
Keyworth United
Kimberley Miners Welfare
Magdala Amateurs
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Ruddington Village
Sandhurst
Selston
Wollaton

Bulwell to the Central Midlands League



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Shouldn't Sandhurst have been relegated?

Nottingham United and Bulwell swapping places - why?


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South Milford from the Selby League. They were in the West Yorkshire League before that.



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The NSL AGM was last night, don't see the constitution up yet but have a relative degree of certainty about the Senior Division via teams' Twitters (Don't take this as gospel):

Attenborough
Awsworth Villa
Beeston AFC (Promoted from Division 1)
Bilborough Town
Boots Athletic (Promoted from Division 1)
Burton Joyce
Cotgrave
FC Cavaliers
Hucknall Rolls Leisure
Keyworth United
Kimberley Miners Welfare
Magdala Amateurs
Nottingham United (Transfer from CML)
Ruddington Village
Sandhurst
Selston
Wollaton

Bulwell to the Central Midlands League


Constitution now on Full Time

Sandhurst reprieved - Bulwell gone to CML but Nottingham United have NOT swapped with them.

Surprisingly West Bridgford have disappeared...to the Central Midlands League? - or have they folded?


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Nottingham United's website are saying they have switched leagues, their 1st team will be in the Premier and 2nd XI in division two. Bit of a mystery


"Our Saturday 1st team play in the Senior Division of the Nottinghamshire Senior League and go into the 2013/14 season under new Management and looking to continue the clubs fantastic progress in our 4th season in the football pyramid.

All our matches in the NSL kick off at 3pm and the NSL consists of teams from around the county and is part of the FA National Football League System. Their homepage with fixtures and results can be found by clicking here - Nottinghamshire Senior League Senior Division"



Also they have a thank you on there to the Notts League for leading them some kit for a forthcoming tour

"Big Thanks To Precision Training And The NSL! - We’d like to say a big thank you to Precision Training and the Nottinghamshire Senior League for kindly providing us with kit and equipment for our upcoming Germany Tour in July. This has helped our preparations massively and shows a touch of class from Precision and the NSL, so thank you again from everyone at Nottingham United"

West Bridgford are Tweeting about the new season but the Tweets do not say what league they are in.


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Nottingham United's reserves are shown in NSL Div2, but first team not included?

Strange.

Just seen Kimberley MW's live tweets from the AGM show a 17 team Senior League including Nottingham United.

What's also strange is that they (and Sandhurst, AND Selston) are very much in CMFL South territory, but have still made the switch.

And why are they called Nottingham United anyway?


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Im at the cml agm so will post the Constitution on here straight after



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Is it tonight?


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I didn't realise there are a few changes from last season so here's the line-up with any changes in bold.
Line-ups taken from the NCEL website - http://www.barisncel.co.uk/league/rules/appendixa/

Step 7

Anglian Combination Premier Div
Central Midlands League Div North
Central Midlands League Div South
Cheshire League Div 1
Dorset Premier League
Essex Olympian League Premier Div
Gloucestershire County League Premier Div (was 7A)
Herts Senior County League Premier Div
Humber Premier League Premier Div
Leicestershire Senior League Premier Div
Liverpool County Premier League Premier Div (was 7A)
Midland Combination Div 1
Northern Football Alliance Premier Div
Peterborough & District League Premier Div
Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League Premier Div
Somerset County League Premier Div
South West Peninsula League Div 1 East (was 7A)
South West Peninsula League Div 1 West (was 7A)

Staffordshire County Senior League Premier Div
Suffolk & Ipswich League Senior Div
Wearside League
West Cheshire League Div 1
West Midlands (Regional) League Div 1
West Yorkshire League Premier Div
Wiltshire Football League Premier Div

7A

Bedfordshire County League Premier Div
Cambridgeshire County League Premier Div
Essex & Suffolk Border League Premier Div
Hampshire Premier League Senior Div
Manchester Football League Premier Div
Middlesex County League Premier Div
Northamptonshire Combination Premier Div
Nottinghamshire Senior League Senior Div
Oxfordshire Senior League Premier Div
Reading Football League Senior Div
West Lancashire League Premier Div
York Football League Premier Div (new)

7B

Kent County League Premier Div
Spartan South Midlands League Div 2
Surrey Elite Intermediate League Intermediate Div
West Riding County Amateur League Premier Div (new)

No longer step 7

Sussex League Division 3
Teesside League Division 1


Thanks.

Anyone know if this is all still accurate. i.e. Teesside demoted?


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Anyone know if this is all still accurate. i.e. Teesside demoted?


I would have thought so as it was only released two months ago and it's the list for the 2013-14 season.
At the moment the 2013-14 FA handbook isn't online. When it is, that will confirm everything.


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That is the correct list, issued by the FA and valid for the 2013/14 season - supplied to leagues to be printed in handbooks etc etc



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What up-&-coming leagues; if there are any; are waiting in the wings with their ducks not yet in a row, preparing for step7 ratification?



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I think Lincolnshire have serious aspirations but they will have to disguise all the reserve teams first !

Disgracefully Wiltshire manage to retain this status with all their disguised reserves and some of the other full Step 7 leagues astonish me when one of the very best (West Lancs) is only 7A.


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I think Lincolnshire have serious aspirations but they will have to disguise all the reserve teams first !

Disgracefully Wiltshire manage to retain this status with all their disguised reserves and some of the other full Step 7 leagues astonish me when one of the very best (West Lancs) is only 7A.


I have a good idea about what every ground in the WLL Premier at least (except Crooklands Casuals) looks like and its hard to believe they are 7A when the Liverpool County Premier which consists of a lot of pitches, is Step 7! Shocked


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I think Lincolnshire have serious aspirations but they will have to disguise all the reserve teams first !

Disgracefully Wiltshire manage to retain this status with all their disguised reserves and some of the other full Step 7 leagues astonish me when one of the very best (West Lancs) is only 7A.


I have a good idea about what every ground in the WLL Premier at least (except Crooklands Casuals) looks like and its hard to believe they are 7A when the Liverpool County Premier which consists of a lot of pitches, is Step 7! Shocked


The only grading requirements at step 7, apart from a roped off pitch, are for the players and officials so the appearance of the ground can be deceiving.


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I think Lincolnshire have serious aspirations but they will have to disguise all the reserve teams first !


Yes have got serious aspirations, even though we only have a slightly higher reserve team ratio than one step 6 division Crazy


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In fairness to Liverpool the grounds are getting better, the last 2 I've done have even had a rail!

Staffs County League has 7 reserves / pseudos in it's top division. There is a lack of Saturday football played in this area. Looks like teams prefer to play Sunday football as in many areas of the Midlands.



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I guess http://en.wikipedia.org/...teur_Football_League and http://en.wikipedia.org/...York_Football_League need updating :)


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My two ticks in the LCPL weren't bad. Old Holts fully railed and Aigburth P.H a very nice tick, railed down 2 and rope down the other.


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No mention of the Mercian league in any of the three lists?

Guess they have been awarded step 6 status then Wink


I did wonder this myself.

Has the Mercian league disappeared into the pyramid netherworld?


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No mention of the Mercian league in any of the three lists?

Guess they have been awarded step 6 status then Wink


I did wonder this myself.

Has the Mercian league disappeared into the pyramid netherworld?


It sits below the West Midlands (Regional) League Division Two - so the Mercian Premier is at notional Step 9.


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They're at Levels 13-15, feeding the West Midlands (Regional) League.



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Other than previous step 7 leagues, Lincs Lge, Mercian Lge & Devon & Exter Lge, are there any other leagues which have applied for step 7 but not got it?


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Mercian League has never been step 7 and I am pretty sure it's predecessor the Shropshire County League never was either.

There's quite a number who have lost step 7 status.



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Sorry my question may have been badly worded. What I meant is other than the leagues I've named and those which were previously at step 7 are there any which have applied for step 7 but not been successful?


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I wish the Conference would update their page at http://www.footballconference.co.uk/history.php

it is showing West Sussex as being at Step 7, which they are not - have they every been?


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I wish the Conference would update their page at http://www.footballconference.co.uk/history.php

it is showing West Sussex as being at Step 7, which they are not - have they every been?


Yes officially they were - up until the beginning of last season.

However they never operated at Step 7 despite the status - as they fed the Sussex Co League Div Three - also at Step 7.

 
 


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