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jrev61
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The huge plus for me on the night which completely negated the tory press because none of these guys reads it was the fantastic 72% turnout by 18-25 year olds lots of celebratory groups shown on tv sheer joy and excitement evident that they had taken part in sopmething really ground breaking. Long may this continue. Its so overdue and at last its nice to see the young enthused by politics. Corbyn is entitled to claim credit for that.


Also, the Canterbury result will have shown students what their voting power is. Shock result of the night?


The Tories win in Moray was also a huge shock. This will save the taxpayer a lot of money as Angus Robertson claimed 60,000 in expenses last year.
Vince Cables huge win in Twickenham was also a bit of a surprise as he's an old fogey who sold off Royal Mail at way below it's real value when in the coalition government. A pity that next door in Richmond park a much better Lib Dem candidate lost to the obnoxious Zack Goldsmith.



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Is the new government going to be known as the Conservative Unionist Negotiating Team? An appropriate acronym thereLaugh



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The Tories win in Moray was also a huge shock. This will save the taxpayer a lot of money as Angus Robertson claimed 60,000 in expenses last year.

A quick check of the figures shows Scotland's sole Tory MP, living a few hundred miles closer to London than Robertson, claimed just under 200,000 in expenses in 2015-16.


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The Tories win in Moray was also a huge shock. This will save the taxpayer a lot of money as Angus Robertson claimed 60,000 in expenses last year.

A quick check of the figures shows Scotland's sole Tory MP, living a few hundred miles closer to London than Robertson, claimed just under 200,000 in expenses in 2015-16.

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Blimey did he hire a chauffeur and a stretch limo to drive him to Westminster? There should be a cap on expenses based on where the MP lives.



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The Tories win in Moray was also a huge shock. This will save the taxpayer a lot of money as Angus Robertson claimed 60,000 in expenses last year.

A quick check of the figures shows Scotland's sole Tory MP, living a few hundred miles closer to London than Robertson, claimed just under 200,000 in expenses in 2015-16.

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Blimey did he hire a chauffeur and a stretch limo to drive him to Westminster? There should be a cap on expenses based on where the MP lives.


From what I understand, the Moray result was expected. Alex Salmond losing was more of a surprise.

Also, Robertson actually claimed 39k last year (I've just checked on the IPSA website). 10k was for travel and 15k was for accomodation, which seems a reasonable for an MP having to live part time in London and frequently return to northern Scotland. The MP in the neighbouring constituency (Inverness) claimed 64k.

To be fair to the MP Paul has highlighted, it appears the rule changed in 2016 and MPs no longer claim staffing costs through their expenses (138k of the 200k in 2015/16 was for staffing).

Personally I think it would be worth the government buying or building a 600-room hotel in London and allowing MPs to live in that, rather than go through the expenses route, which allows for various corruption possibilities. Same for constituency offices, which can be rented from local parties/patrons at exorbitant rents.


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It shouldn't be beyond the leaders of our nation to implement an effective expenses procedure with enough checks and balances to prevent corruption. Most companies have one. Expecting MPs to live alongside each other when in London isn't really reasonable and, as I'm sure anyone who works away from home would agree, the idea of having to spend one's own time cooped up in the same building as work colleagues for any significant length of time is too stifling and very unappealing. Even more so when half of those colleagues are people you've spent most of your working day opposing!


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The Tories win in Moray was also a huge shock. This will save the taxpayer a lot of money as Angus Robertson claimed 60,000 in expenses last year.

A quick check of the figures shows Scotland's sole Tory MP, living a few hundred miles closer to London than Robertson, claimed just under 200,000 in expenses in 2015-16.

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Blimey did he hire a chauffeur and a stretch limo to drive him to Westminster? There should be a cap on expenses based on where the MP lives.


From what I understand, the Moray result was expected. Alex Salmond losing was more of a surprise.

Also, Robertson actually claimed 39k last year (I've just checked on the IPSA website). 10k was for travel and 15k was for accomodation, which seems a reasonable for an MP having to live part time in London and frequently return to northern Scotland. The MP in the neighbouring constituency (Inverness) claimed 64k.

To be fair to the MP Paul has highlighted, it appears the rule changed in 2016 and MPs no longer claim staffing costs through their expenses (138k of the 200k in 2015/16 was for staffing).

Personally I think it would be worth the government buying or building a 600-room hotel in London and allowing MPs to live in that, rather than go through the expenses route, which allows for various corruption possibilities. Same for constituency offices, which can be rented from local parties/patrons at exorbitant rents.


I said the same years ago, re: a designated hotel, but weirdly enough the biggest opponents of this were on the left.

Would make sense and would weed out those MP's just in it for the money.


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My message to not just Mrs. May but also to the other party leaders as well:

As a resident of Blackpool, how will you help the people mentioned in this article and improve their lives for the better?

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/12/when-lights-go-out

Or are they not worth caring about?


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My message to not just Mrs. May but also to the other party leaders as well:

As a resident of Blackpool, how will you help the people mentioned in this article and improve their lives for the better?

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/12/when-lights-go-out

Or are they not worth caring about?


A very interesting article, especially the focus on housing. I think it's fair to say the government's housing policies are amongst their worst. We need serious investment in building new social housing and an immediate end to right to buy so that it makes it worth investing in refurbishment of housing (the current situation means the council can spend thousands of pounds refurbishing houses/flats with a view to recouping the cost via rent, only to lose the property at well below market value). The government's plans to extend right to buy to non-council social housing is bonkers as it involves forcing councils to pay the discounts (up to 100k per property) so the landlords don't lose out. This was proposed to be funded by selling off empty social housing rather than letting it to new tenants Unsure

Another big thing the government has messed up is insulation programmes. It's an extremely effective measure because it has so many positive outcomes - warmer housing saves the NHS money as people with respiratory conditions are less likely to become ill and need hospital treatment (a case study in Oldham saw a huge drop in A&E admissions after an estate insulation programme), as well as increasing things like educational attainment and reducing problems like damp/condensation/mould, which both keeps the property in a better condition, and is another positive health benefit. And of course it means lower fuel bills, meaning tenants have more money to spend, which is likely to be in the local economy. On top of this, there is the regeneration aspect, which has a positive impact on the area.

A few years ago there were some good government schemes and many councils insulated pretty much all cavity wall properties. However, this left the solid walled properties (insulating which costs about 20 times the cost of cavity wall). There was a special funding programme for this. However, under pressure from the energy companies, the government diluted it, which hugely reduced the amount of money available to the extent that in some cases it costs as much to apply for it as you get back.

The list of other problems the government has created for housing is almost endless - dropping the commitment to zero carbon homes (which would have meant new housing being built to higher energy efficiency standards), getting rid of lifetime tenancies, the refusal to pass a law requiring rented property to be fit for human habitation, allowing offices to be converted to housing without planning permission (which also badly affects small businesses) etc etc.


My concern is that we are increasingly living in a rentier economy where those at the top have been able to use their existing capital to buy assets like housing and business premises and then sit back and live off the income. It ends up being a cycle whereby they are able to afford to buy more property as they can outcompete renters who are unable to save up to buy; one of the local shops near me has just had its rent doubled by the landlord who owns dozens of similar properties. It's the same for public services - privatisation is a way of ensuring a guaranteed income stream for those at the top by passing vast amounts of public money to private companies.

This I suspect is why they are so absolutely terrified of someone like Corbyn. Rent controls, social housing and unprivatisation means their income stream drying up.

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