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Gricehead
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Ist round qualification for the 2019/20 competition in Paris / Île-de-France region will be held on 28th April. Draw is up at https://paris-idf.fff.fr/...=cp&tab=resultat


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The second round draw (June 2) is now showing on the address shown above.
There is still one first round game at Etoile Bobigny to be played this Sunday, while one game may be waiting an FFF decision.

I leave it to the expert (Gricehead) to let us know more - and in the meantime I have renamed this part of the thread for next season!



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Gricehead
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The wiki pages for the 19-20 qualifying rounds can be found at https://en.wikipedia.org/...e_Preliminary_Rounds

As Leo said, we've completed the first round in Paris-IdF now, with a total of 360 entrants from the current season's district league divisions (level 9 and below). There's no evidence of any byes being given (backed up by there being a late fixture added between two teams who appealed their lack of appearance in the original draw). Hopefully the final set of penalties will be published today and, subject to appeals, the second round draw will be set apart from the Bobigny match and the Vauxoise/Villeneuve-la-Garenne abandonment.

Round 2 sees the Regional divisions enter, with most likely all of R3 and R2 and some of R1 by league position (I've not validated this yet). There's usually a few byes to make the numbers work in future rounds, although that's a bit hit and miss until promotion and relegation between the National divisions is fully resolved.

The only other mainland league that has declared it will have a round of qualifying games before the summer break is Grand Est, where there will be games on either 8/9 or 15/16 June. Entries closed a couple of weeks ago, so the draw should be imminent.

For most of the mainland, entries close on 15 June and the first round is in August.

Overseas, we're into the second round (to be played this weekend) in Mayotte, where a total of 65 clubs have entered (up from last year as discussed at the end of last year's thread). We've already lost three R1 teams, including previous qualifiers Foudre 2000 and ASC Abeilles.

In Réunion entries are up from 38 to 42. The competition started at the second round to align rounds with other leagues, and this was played between 20 R2 teams (selected by league position at the time of the draw) in April. The remaining R2 and all R1 clubs join the next round which is played the first weekend in June.


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Do you know what has happened about the Vauxoise/Villeneuve-la-Garenne abandonment?
Is it due to be replayed?
Tempted as I am about Etoile Bobigny, it seems a long drive for Departmental Division 5. I would say I would not do that level where I stay, but then the lowest level in Orne is Departmental DIvision 4 - and Pays de Belleme do not appear to have completed the season (again)




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Gricehead
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May 3, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Do you know what has happened about the Vauxoise/Villeneuve-la-Garenne abandonment?
Is it due to be replayed?
Tempted as I am about Etoile Bobigny, it seems a long drive for Departmental Division 5. I would say I would not do that level where I stay, but then the lowest level in Orne is Departmental DIvision 4 - and Pays de Belleme do not appear to have completed the season (again)


Nothing other than it was 1-1 when it was stopped. Still trawling for sources. Will see what the competitions committee produce this afternoon.


Gricehead
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(Paris IdF) Round 2 sees the Regional divisions enter, with most likely all of R3 and R2 and some of R1 by league position (I've not validated this yet). There's usually a few byes to make the numbers work in future rounds, although that's a bit hit and miss until promotion and relegation between the National divisions is fully resolved.


Round 2 shows as 133 fixtures, with 179 of the first round winners (Someone gets a bye - no idea who at this stage! - EDIT FC Romainville from D1) and 87 new entries from the Regional divisions.

New entries by division:
R1 (6) - 22 (of possible 22)
R2 (7) - 35 (of possible 36)
R3 (8) - 30 (of possible 30)

Round 1 winners by division:
D1 (9) - 29
D2 (10) - 58
D3 (11) - 49
D4 (12) - 28
D5 (13) - 9
D6 (14) - 4

(9) or (13) - 1
(10) or (13) - 1


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Gricehead
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May 3, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Do you know what has happened about the Vauxoise/Villeneuve-la-Garenne abandonment?
Is it due to be replayed?
Tempted as I am about Etoile Bobigny, it seems a long drive for Departmental Division 5. I would say I would not do that level where I stay, but then the lowest level in Orne is Departmental DIvision 4 - and Pays de Belleme do not appear to have completed the season (again)


Nothing other than it was 1-1 when it was stopped. Still trawling for sources. Will see what the competitions committee produce this afternoon.


Today's competitions committee reported on nine forfeits (three where the away team did not turn up) and on the somewhat farcical-sounding non-kick-off of the Entente Pays du Limours / FC La Verrière tie. Nothing on the ES Vauxoise/Amicale Villeneuve-la-Garenne abandonment, however. There remain six unexplained forfeits.

Also confirmed is the constitution of the second round draw, being 133 ties and a bye for FC Romainvillers.


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Gricehead
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May 23, 2019, 11:34 AM

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Fixtures for Round 1 in Grand Est have been published - all 351 of them. Those in Lorraine and Champagne-Ardenne take place nominally on 9th June, with Alscce on 16th June.

I may not get them all up on the wiki page in time, especially as the fixtures site only has the Champagne-Ardenne ties on it at the moment, so here's the PDF version: https://lgef.fff.fr/...s/14/2019/05/CF1.pdf


Gricehead
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May 24, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Do you know what has happened about the Vauxoise/Villeneuve-la-Garenne abandonment?
Is it due to be replayed?
Tempted as I am about Etoile Bobigny, it seems a long drive for Departmental Division 5. I would say I would not do that level where I stay, but then the lowest level in Orne is Departmental DIvision 4 - and Pays de Belleme do not appear to have completed the season (again)


Vauxoise/Villeneuve-la-Garenne will be replayed on 30th May. Still no clue as to why.


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Gricehead
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Initial numbers of clubs entering from Hauts-de-France region for 19/20 has been published as 861. This is over 100 down on 18/19.


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Gricehead
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Copying from the French Regional Cups thread, where I said:

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One of the matches on 16th June (Mauloise v Courdimanche) is a replay of an abandoned match from 2nd June.


The novel reason for abandonment of the original game appears to be that a player of the home team crashed into a goalpost during play, breaking the goalpost, which couldn't be fixed. The well being of the player is not referenced.


Gricehead
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Copying from the French Regional Cups thread, where I said:

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One of the matches on 16th June (Mauloise v Courdimanche) is a replay of an abandoned match from 2nd June.


The novel reason for abandonment of the original game appears to be that a player of the home team crashed into a goalpost during play, breaking the goalpost, which couldn't be fixed. The well being of the player is not referenced.


The 2nd round in Paris-IDF has also had a game forfeited because the pitch wasn't marked out (not as unusual as you might think) and a game not played because only one player from the away team and none of the home team turned up. The latter saw both teams eliminated from the competition, so once again the Ligue de Paris-IDF will have their calculators out again to work out if an intermediate round will be required.


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These, I assume explain the two games missing a result

Eaubonne v Chambourcy from Thursday and Fertois Boissy v Vitry on Sunday

It does make one think twice about the games on Sunday - three out of four are within reach and two of them would probably allow me to the Parc des Princes after for USA v Chile.



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Gricehead
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These, I assume explain the two games missing a result

Eaubonne v Chambourcy from Thursday and Fertois Boissy v Vitry on Sunday

It does make one think twice about the games on Sunday - three out of four are within reach and two of them would probably allow me to the Parc des Princes after for USA v Chile.


The two missing ones are just late reporting in or late being processed.

The unmarked pitch was at D4 SS Noiseau, and the no-show was D4 AS Val de l'Yerres vs D2 FC Boissy


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Round 1 in Grand Est threw up an 18-0 scoreline between two clubs at the same level (Mosellan District 3) - winners Avant Garde Metzervisse's league record this season: Played 18 Won 18 GF 98 GA 9. Opposition FC Angevillers finished 2nd in their group.


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Is there anything Saturday? I'm moving from Rennes to Paris, so anything roughly in that direction please.
Also do you have details of the games that could be doubled with USA v Chile.
Sorry for asking on this thread, I'm having problems with my phone so Internet is difficult


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There are quite a number of French Cup games in Grand Est on Saturday - which is of no use at all if coming from Rennes

For anyone interested, https://www.fff.fr/...1/derniers-resultats
I have not looked at distances as I cannot go, but I imagine it is possible to do two games Saturday and one on Sunday


On Sunday, there are four games in the Paris region (also one tonight) https://www.fff.fr/...1/derniers-resultats

I am still undecided whether to go to one or not. Some can be combined with Parc de Princes for the Coupe de Monde Femmes.

All are listed at 14.30, but then so is the game I saw last Sunday, which was actually 15.00 - so with extra time and penalties, the second game may become difficult

1) Mauloise v Courdimanche - Stade de Radet. Rue De Mareil 78580 Maule
Mauloise play in Departmental 2, Yvelines. The opposition is Departmental 3, Val d'Oise.

2) Jouy le Moutier v Villeneuve la Garen - Stade Des Merisiers. Rue Rossini, 95280 Jouy Le Moutier
JLM play in Depatmental 1, Val d'Oise, VLG who won in the previous round by 8-3 (aet) are at the same level, but in Hauts-de-Seine.

3) Entente du Pays de Limours v ESC XVeme. Stade Vincent Coupet. Route D Arpajon, 91470 Limours. Home side is Departmental 5, Essonne. Visitors same level, but Hauts-de-Seine.

4) Lesigny v Draveil. Stade De Maison Blanche. Route De Maison Blanche,
77150 Lesigny
Lesigny are Departmental 2, Seine et Marne, with visitors from Departmental 2, Essonne.

Location wise, match 1 is the closest to Parc des Princes, although not close enough that the transfer can be done by rail alone - as it is the closest to my base, let me know if you are thinking of going.



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Gricehead
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Finally got the wiki pages up at the live address https://en.wikipedia.org/...e_Preliminary_Rounds

(Leo or any other admin, if you can edit this into the 3rd (my 2nd) post in this thread to replace the link there that would be great - it will redirect for now)


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Gricehead
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Initial numbers of clubs entering from Hauts-de-France region for 19/20 has been published as 861. This is over 100 down on 18/19.


Now up to 959. Seems some clubs like to leave it until the last minute.


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In case anyone has significant spare time and disposable income, the first round match in the Saint Pierre and Miquelon mini-qualifying tournament is tomorrow, between the same two teams as last season: AS Saint Pierraise and AS Miquelonnaise. (As a reminder, there are only three teams in the collectivity)


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Blast, I cannot get to the airport in time for the next flight, (18.45 off Paris), which only gets me there at 22.15 tomorrow (two changes, Montreal and Halifax)
Surely, it would have been a bargain at £3610 return?



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Gricehead
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Blast, I cannot get to the airport in time for the next flight, (18.45 off Paris), which only gets me there at 22.15 tomorrow (two changes, Montreal and Halifax)
Surely, it would have been a bargain at £3610 return?


Laugh

You'll just have to plan ahead and go to the "second round" game in a couple of weeks...


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346 clubs from Normandie in the Coupe de France - 34 from Orne



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346 clubs from Normandie in the Coupe de France - 34 from Orne


Slightly down on last year, but only single figures. Occitanie is also slightly down, with 446 clubs this year.

At least two regions have extended the deadline for entries to 2 July.


Gricehead
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Blast, I cannot get to the airport in time for the next flight, (18.45 off Paris), which only gets me there at 22.15 tomorrow (two changes, Montreal and Halifax)
Surely, it would have been a bargain at £3610 return?


Laugh

You'll just have to plan ahead and go to the "second round" game in a couple of weeks...


I can't find a second round match scheduled anywhere, and the wording of this article https://la1ere.francetvinfo.fr/...e-france-723228.html also suggests that the first match may have been a one-off. So maybe AS Ilienne Amateurs didn't enter this year and ASM have already qualified?

Either way, the qualifying team will play in the third round again this year, but against a team in or around the Lyon metropolitan area.


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