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afc wimbledon ground future ? or Reply Privately

just wandering because they are building a new stand behind one of the goals, what the long term plan is, stay at kingsmeadow, or still looking in wimbledon area to build a new ground, ? if any dons fans out there can answer my question.



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bump any dons fans ???



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According to Wikipedia ''it is AFC Wimbledon's long term ambition to relocate to a new stadium with a capacity around 10,000 (with potential for expansion), in the London Borough of Merton where the original Wimbledon F.C. last played in 1991 at Plough Lane.''


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is there a site for them to build a ground on ?



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The latest possible site I'm aware of is Merantun Way in Colliers Wood - http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...ns_to_Colliers_Wood/

AFC Wimbledon were still saying Plough Lane was their preferred location but the day after the paper printed the article above they printed 'Ambitious plans for brand new dog track in Plough Lane, Wimbedon" (http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...brand_new_dog_track/ which would put an end to the football club's plans of moving there.


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Re: [VP] afc wimbledon ground future ? or Reply Privately

Wouldn't hold your breath. I don't remember Merton council being that supportive of the old Wimbledon's hopes for a ground in the borough.

Suspect they'll be playing in Kingston and hovering between league 2 and Conference for decades to come


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The latest possible site I'm aware of is Merantun Way in Colliers Wood - http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...ns_to_Colliers_Wood/

AFC Wimbledon were still saying Plough Lane was their preferred location but the day after the paper printed the article above they printed 'Ambitious plans for brand new dog track in Plough Lane, Wimbedon" (http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...brand_new_dog_track/ which would put an end to the football club's plans of moving there.


So the leader of Merton Council believes a dog track is the most appropriate home for AFC Wimbledon. No wonder the last lot moved to Milton Keynes.


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if they built a new ground what would happen to kingsmeadow, sold back to kingstonian fc, afc wimbledon being a fans club wouldnt stitch them up but you never know........... Wink



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if they built a new ground what would happen to kingsmeadow, sold back to kingstonian fc, afc wimbledon being a fans club wouldnt stitch them up but you never know........... Wink


I might be being naive but I think the Dons will give the ground back to Kingstonian. Even if it's not free I don't expect it to be anywhere near market value.
I saw a date of 2018 for a new ground mentioned somewhere. Can't be bothered to try and find out where I read it but it was before the news about Colliers Wood was announced.


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The latest possible site I'm aware of is Merantun Way in Colliers Wood - http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...ns_to_Colliers_Wood/

AFC Wimbledon were still saying Plough Lane was their preferred location but the day after the paper printed the article above they printed 'Ambitious plans for brand new dog track in Plough Lane, Wimbedon" (http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...brand_new_dog_track/ which would put an end to the football club's plans of moving there.


So the leader of Merton Council believes a dog track is the most appropriate home for AFC Wimbledon. No wonder the last lot moved to Milton Keynes.


It's late. I'm not sure if I'm reading your post correctly but I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.
The owners of the dog track want to tear it down and build 800 houses on the site but the council said that any redevelopment should have an “intensification of sporting activity”. I'd assume this to mean they wanted the football club to move there rather than have houses on it.
It's now emerged that someone wants to build a new dog track on the site which means the football club wouldn't be able to move in.


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Re: [garethwrexy] afc wimbledon ground future ? or Reply Privately

Understand Wimbledon are the owners of the ground used by Rayans Park Vale (RPV) and another club (Surrey County League)?

Will be interesting to see if they continue to support clubs such as Kingstonian and RPV if they re-locate. Personally sure they would see them right after all there experiences.
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Understand Wimbledon are the owners of the ground used by Rayans Park Vale (RPV) and another club (Surrey County League)?

Will be interesting to see if they continue to support clubs such as Kingstonian and RPV if they re-locate. Personally sure they would see them right after all there experiences.
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I'm not sure if Prince George's Playing Fields is still anything to do with AFC Wimbledon. The land was bought before Wimbledon moved to Milton Keynes. They were going to turn into a training ground. I think it may be owned by a consortium now.
I was speaking to someone from RPV a couple of years ago. He said it's a bit frustrating as they can't get a long enough lease on the part of the site they use to get any grants to do the ground up. Apparently every year the landowner signs another lease for the club for the following twelve months without batting an eyelid but that's as far as it goes.


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Could be the case although last season was told on seperate occasions by separate Wimbledon fans (yes there does to be more than one) as well a an RPV fan that the Trustee was still in the league clubs hands.


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I was speaking to someone from RPV a couple of years ago. He said it's a bit frustrating as they can't get a long enough lease on the part of the site they use to get any grants to do the ground up. Apparently every year the landowner signs another lease for the club for the following twelve months without batting an eyelid but that's as far as it goes.


Good to know, when I went last year I was surprised at just how run-down the ground was.


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I was speaking to someone from RPV a couple of years ago. He said it's a bit frustrating as they can't get a long enough lease on the part of the site they use to get any grants to do the ground up. Apparently every year the landowner signs another lease for the club for the following twelve months without batting an eyelid but that's as far as it goes.


Good to know, when I went last year I was surprised at just how run-down the ground was.


Yeah that does explain its somewhat ramshackle nature.


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seen photo's on mishi's blog not in the best state at the moment.



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Why has the media blown up such a massive story out of nothing? All because Rodgers didn't say that Carroll definitely would stay, never said he was considering loaning him out or anything. Nothing will come of it, just an overreaction by the media.


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Why has the media blown up such a massive story out of nothing? All because Rodgers didn't say that Carroll definitely would stay, never said he was considering loaning him out or anything. Nothing will come of it, just an overreaction by the media.



Has he been seen at Wimbledon's new ground then ?


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Wombles are known for re-cycling rubbish.


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Why has the media blown up such a massive story out of nothing? All because Rodgers didn't say that Carroll definitely would stay, never said he was considering loaning him out or anything. Nothing will come of it, just an overreaction by the media.


That could confuse a stupid person. My knowledge of football above the Conference is virtually zero. I haven't got a clue who Rodgers is but know the name Carroll. I wondered what it had to do AFC Wimbledon or Raynes Park Vale. Had to Google it to find out this was posted in the wrong thread. Crazy


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my feeling's hope afc wimbledon treat kingstonian fairly when the time comes.........



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my feeling's hope afc wimbledon treat kingstonian fairly when the time comes.........



Me too Gareth, hope they do a deal to either gift the ground back to Kingstonian or sell it back for a small fee



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1,00 pound prehaps Wink



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Some news of interest given recent thoughts about AFCW moving to a new stadium on the site of the greyhound stadium.

Paschal Taggart has submitted plans to Merton Council redevelop Wimbledon into a new £30m greyhound track. The stadium will have a four tier grandstand and capacity for 6000. Taggart revolutionised greyhound racing in Ireland during his 10 year tenure in charge, more than doubling attendances.

http://www.racingpost.com/...w-wimbledon/1035563/


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And now the counter-bid:

AFC Wimbledon have submitted a planning proposal to Merton to build an 11k stadium, with potential to rise to 20k, on the site of the greyhound stadium.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/.../0/football/24165559


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Wink I understand there is a lot of land the other side of London that the club might be interested in buying , place called Milton Keynes!!


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Wink I understand there is a lot of land the other side of London that the club might be interested in buying , place called Milton Keynes!!
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In the mid-eighties the powers-that-be at Kenilworth Road dis seriously want to move them to Milton Keynes.



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In the mid-eighties the powers-that-be at Kenilworth Road dis seriously want to move them to Milton Keynes.


I remember that Mishi, at least the Luton fans would not have had so far to travel as the Wimbledon Fans Smile



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In the mid-eighties the powers-that-be at Kenilworth Road dis seriously want to move them to Milton Keynes.


I remember that Mishi, at least the Luton fans would not have had so far to travel as the Wimbledon Fans Smile




Did any of the Wimbledon fans ever bother to travel up north anyway?


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Some did travel to MK from London and still do.


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With regards to what AFC will do with Kingmeadow I caution against niavity, AFC will need to maximise their income to contribute to the move, the lease they paid well over the value of for is worthless so their only remaining option is to try and develop part of the site. That will mean Kingmeadow will be significantly different (i.e. smaller and not league standard like it was in 2000 when K's had the lease). The other issue to think about is where will AFC and K's play whilst the new AFC ground is built and Kingsmeadow developed (AFC will need their contribution early).

Of course other solutions may appesr over the next year but in their absense watch this space.



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With regards to what AFC will do with Kingmeadow I caution against niavity, AFC will need to maximise their income to contribute to the move, the lease they paid well over the value of for is worthless so their only remaining option is to try and develop part of the site. That will mean Kingmeadow will be significantly different (i.e. smaller and not league standard like it was in 2000 when K's had the lease). The other issue to think about is where will AFC and K's play whilst the new AFC ground is built and Kingsmeadow developed (AFC will need their contribution early).


Does AFC Wimbledon's ownership of Kingsmeadow include the car park behind the main stand and the adjacent athletics stadium, or is it confined to the footprint of the football stadium itself? If it is just the latter, there will be hardly anything to sell off.


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Interesting question, the lease originally was for the ground and some ajoining bits but not the athletics area or I think the car park...however in 2010
the council ceeded an extra area as part of the deal that gave the K's a 23 year locked in tenancy. That extra land is what provides the potential for AFC I suspect. Now you are correct in supposing that any significant redevelopment of that area will need RBK on board, say a joint arrangement that helps both sides, in order to be a goer. As I said in my first contribution other schemes may accrue, I shall not speculate further except to say the idea AFC will just hand over Kingsmeadow to the K's or that the council will let AFC off the lease obligations is wishful thinking!



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Merton Council planning officers have recommended the plans to turn Plough Lane greyhound stadium into AFC's new home.

http://www.racingpost.com/...bledon-site/1998850/


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Merton Council planning officers have recommended the plans to turn Plough Lane greyhound stadium into AFC's new home.

http://www.racingpost.com/...bledon-site/1998850/

Definately going ahead now with AFC W moving to Plough Lane and an 11k stadium and the potential to upgrade to 20k.


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The link has run dry. What are the prospective dates for this; didn't manage to get to Plough Lane



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Click on Wheelbarrow's link.


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They are aiming to be in the new ground for 2018 / 2019.


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Sad as Wimbledon Stadium was a fantastic venue certainly for Speedway. Why do we in this country preserve so many old buildings but when it comes to stadiums they are just bulldozed. The new stadium should incorporate things to reflect the areas past To me a bland lego stadium is not a fair replacement for the old stadium.


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Silly question maybe so I apologise but is there any reason why this couldn't have been done long before Winkleman got involved in the original club because they were looking to relocate even then.


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Suspect that the Dogs and Stockcars were making enough money for the GRA who owned the stadium to not worry about putting a football team there, it would probably have meant that the stock cars would have had to be moved out to fit the pitch in. Also Speedway returned in 2002 for 4 years. Since then though the fortunes of the GRA have gone downhill and the stadium has been falling into disrepair and the owning company has got into financial difficulties. Opportunity has now knocked for AFC Wimbledon to return home.


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some more details and artists' impressions here:
http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/...d_by_Galliard_Homes/


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Wimbledon's return to Merton took a positive step forward when the Mayor of London passed the planning application back to Merton Council saying he had no objections. Merton Council are already in favour of the project.



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I really hope kingstonian get treated ok



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I really hope Kingstonian get treated ok


Yes so do I.

AFC Wimbledon turning a marvelous stadium like Wimbledon into some sort of kit ground is not on. That stadium should be protected as should a number of others in the London area. Seems strange in some parts of the country people can't paint their front doors unless the paint is made of Lime and Cows Dong and glass in their windows has to be 300 years old while in London years of sporting history can be swept away in the name of progress. Dual standards.


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Begs the question, what would you do with the site? Leave it as an empty, festering dump?
Perhaps then Wimbledon could find some green-belt to build on instead.


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Re: [007Dale] afc wimbledon ground future ? or

As it's still in use that is rather irrelevant. It's London's only remaining dog track. Basically a AFC stadium would kill Greyhounds in the capital and get rid of one of the most iconic Speedway Stadium there has ever been.


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It's London's only remaining dog track.


Is it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/...#Registered_Stadiums


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Not sure if Crayford is still there, Speedway stopped years ago. I always class Romford as Essex which would just leave Wimbledon.
Catford, Hackney, Haringey, Walthamstow, Wembley, White City have all gone in recent years.



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Crayford is still going Barry but I miss the proper London tracks like Walthamstow. Gone to the dogs has greyhound racingWink


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Crayford is still going Barry but I miss the proper London tracks like Walthamstow. Gone to the dogs has greyhound racingWink


Went to Crayford years ago for Speedway Crayford Kestrels v Oxford Cheetahs in 1980. Seem to recall it was an unusual track was the doggy track inside some of the supporting pillars. If we are not careful we are going to lose all the interesting sporting venues with character which brings us back to the wonderful Wimbledon Stadium. The start and finish for speedway was in a slightly different place. People who don't have an interest in greyhounds or speedway probably don't realise how high up the food chain it was. Many of the great speedway venues have gone which is such a shame as so many had much to offer and character, Belle Vue from the halcyon days of PC was my favourite.


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Crayford is still going Barry but I miss the proper London tracks like Walthamstow. Gone to the dogs has greyhound racingWink


Only been Greyhound racing twice. once at Reading (Smallmead) and I made the effort to get to Walthamstow a couple of weeks before it closed.



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Unfortunately it all comes down to economics. We have to assume that the closure of stadiums is driven by lack of money.

I'm happy AFC Wimbledon are taking the site, rather than it being 100% flattened for housing (I know the football proposal includes housing as well).

I assume that the stadium will be sold regardless of whether AFC get it or not.


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I think the answer if houses can be built on a site they will. We have the same here with Cowley Stadium standing empty. They keep on saying they are going to bring back Dogs and Cheetahs (even the council) but no one has the money to buy it so the owners (a pension fund I think) will sit tight till houses are allowed. Big organisation land bank and if they get permission for housing on a few sites they are quids in.


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So someday in near future afc Wimbledon will be back in there homeland good luck to them



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Yes, I say the same good luck to AFC Wimbledon. I did get to see the old Wimbledon at Plough Lane, also being a Belle Vue speedway fan at the time, I saw speedway at Wimbledon Stadium, which I recall was practically circular like Monmore Green, Wolverhampton, and the dog track at Wimbledon was outside the speedway track. Am only a reading fan of Belle Vue, although I would like to see them at the new National Stadium, just down the road from their previous track on Kirkmanshulme Lane, both the old and new in the district of Gorton.


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I do wish are wimbledon well but over the years they haven't always be the team everyone likes, some of there fans are nasty to the core



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Gareth - are there any teams you could not say that for?



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Gareth - are there any teams you could not say that for?


I think he's said it about every team... Crazy


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No haven't get facts right



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Quite right Gareth! I've NEVER heard you say that about Wrexham. Sly



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ThanksTongue



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 The proposed new stadium has suffered a further setback with Wandsworth Council urging the Sec of State to " call in " the project.

This could delay the project significantly.....the FSF in conjunction with Bring the Dons Home are now urging all fans to write to the Sec of State and show their support for the proposal.

You can show your support here....http://www.fsf.org.uk/...-political-roadblock


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Well ad Wimbledon not Home and dry yet



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From BBC today
AFC Wimbledon's proposal to build a new stadium on Plough Lane has cleared another hurdle after the government decided not to call in their plans.
Sajid Javid MP, the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, is content for planning permission to be decided by the local authority.
Merton Borough Council granted the Dons approval to build an initial 11,000-capacity stadium in December 2015.
The League One club are now set to redevelop Wimbledon Greyhound Stadium.
"Now, at long last, we can start planning with confidence to give AFC Wimbledon a secure future at the heart of the community the club represents," chief executive Erik Samuelson told the club website.
"After so many years in exile, the Dons are coming home."
AFC Wimbledon's plans were put on hold in March when Boris Johnson, then Mayor of London, decided to review Merton council's decision to grant approval to the scheme, following objections from neighbouring Wandsworth.
However, Sadiq Khan was elected mayor in May and last month he decided to hand the decision back to Merton after a 14-day consultation.
The council's planning committee then rubber-stamped the application at a meeting on 15 September before it was referred to Javid's office.
AFC Wimbledon's plans include the construction of 602 residential units, and could see the capacity of the proposed new stadium eventually increased to 20,000.
The Dons have played at Kingsmeadow in Kingston since their formation in 2002 but see a move to Merton, and Plough Lane, as a return to their spiritual home.
The original Wimbledon FC were forced to leave their Plough Lane ground in 1991 and shared Selhurst Park with Crystal Palace until 2003, when they moved to Milton Keynes - having been given permission to relocate by an independent commission a year earlier.
The club were subsequently renamed MK Dons, while their old Plough Lane home became a residential development.
AFC Wimbledon were formed in response to the relocation and, after beginning life in the Combined Counties League, reached the Football League in 2011.


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For some old Skool afc Wimbledon fans be end of long journey



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Another article -

http://www.constructionenquirer.com/...ild-new-16m-stadium/

As an aside, a lot of people have noticed that, following yesterday's results, AFCW are above MKD in the league for the first time ever.


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First thing that struck me was the number of flats which are going to be there, so many people with cars and yet not many parking spaces indicated.
Not much street parking for the thousands of fans who will attend.
Wonder how many in the flats at this end of the picture will work out a way onto the roof for home games.
How many of them will eventually complain about the lights after 10pm, and don't those floodlights look way to high?
Would it not be better to have spotlight floodlights built into the rim of the stand


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First thing that struck me was the number of flats which are going to be there, so many people with cars and yet not many parking spaces indicated.
Not much street parking for the thousands of fans who will attend.
Wonder how many in the flats at this end of the picture will work out a way onto the roof for home games.
How many of them will eventually complain about the lights after 10pm, and don't those floodlights look way to high?
Would it not be better to have spotlight floodlights built into the rim of the stand

But won't all these flats be empty having been snapped up by foreign buyers as "investments"?



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First thing that struck me was the number of flats which are going to be there, so many people with cars and yet not many parking spaces indicated.


The development will probably be car-free like most modern blocks of flats in London (i.e. with no parking). The exceptions are usually ones for the fabulously wealthy who can afford a couple of floors devoted to car parking by charging even move for the flats.


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First thing that struck me was the number of flats which are going to be there, so many people with cars and yet not many parking spaces indicated.


The development will probably be car-free like most modern blocks of flats in London (i.e. with no parking). The exceptions are usually ones for the fabulously wealthy who can afford a couple of floors devoted to car parking by charging even move for the flats.


That's what happens when you over populate the country, London and the south east in particular, Croydon, Lewisham etc are exactly the same.


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First thing that struck me was the number of flats which are going to be there, so many people with cars and yet not many parking spaces indicated.


The development will probably be car-free like most modern blocks of flats in London (i.e. with no parking). The exceptions are usually ones for the fabulously wealthy who can afford a couple of floors devoted to car parking by charging even move for the flats.


That's what happens when you over populate the country, London and the south east in particular, Croydon, Lewisham etc are exactly the same.


I think it's more to do with protecting the environment and promoting sustainable transport. London has only recently passed the same population level it had in 1939.


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In 1939 the population of London would have lived in far fewer houses than the same population does today.


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In 1939 the population of London would have lived in far fewer houses than the same population does today.


Sadly we're heading back in that direction at the moment with more and more flats being let out room-by-room, with every possible space used as a bedroom (I have even heard of one where the kitchen was turned into a bedroom and a small sink and hob installed in the hallway).


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The proposed new stadium has suffered a further setback with Wandsworth Council urging the Sec of State to " call in " the project.

This could delay the project significantly.....the FSF in conjunction with Bring the Dons Home are now urging all fans to write to the Sec of State and show their support for the proposal.

You can show your support here....http://www.fsf.org.uk/...-political-roadblock


Planning permission now granted:
http://www.skysports.com/...sion-for-new-stadium


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Be interesting to see if they can fill it. They struggle sometimes to fill Kingsmeadow and even in the old Division 1, Plough Lane was not always full.

Oops an impressive set up however, will be another one to tick off.


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The sky sports report says capacity of 11-20,000? That's very imprecise
The BBC is more clear, showing an initial figure of 11,000 - with the ability to increase.

That makes sense. 11,000 is about right for a club that plays in the lower two divisions of the league

AFC W have always been good at garnering publicity, and I am sure the move will create an increase in crowds initially
Should this be coupled with a winning team, then they keep them longer



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I think Kingsmeadow struggles with poor sightlines that potentially hampers the match day experience, and thus attendances. I've yet to tick it off myself, but others I've spoken to said standing near the back of the stand they couldn't see all of the pitch.


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It is not great for viewing if it is more than about 50% capacity.


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Well done AFC Wimbledon you got what wanted shafted a team out of there ground you should be proud off. Yourselves a fine example of fans owned clubUnsure



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Well done AFC Wimbledon you got what wanted shafted a team out of there ground you should be proud off. Yourselves a fine example of fans owned clubUnsure


Could you explain how they have shafted Kingstonian out of the ground?

Do you not attribute any blame to the Kholsas who were the ones selling the ground from under Kingstonian?


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AFC Wimbledon dealt with kholsas in the early days, they define hypocrisy



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AFC Wimbledon dealt with kholsas in the early days, they define hypocrisy


Anyone buying the ground would have had to deal with them.

Would you prefer if the ground had just been sold to a property developer and houses built on it then rather than Kingstonian playing at the ground rent-free for the last decade?


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I think Kingsmeadow struggles with poor sightlines that potentially hampers the match day experience, and thus attendances. I've yet to tick it off myself, but others I've spoken to said standing near the back of the stand they couldn't see all of the pitch.


I agree with the bit about poor sightlines but it has hardly affected AFC Wimbledon's crowds as all their home games are close to sell-outs.


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Well, would you believe it?

"WE NEED MORE MONEY!"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50564661