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Person and reason


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Born after 01/01/1970?


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English?


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A male person?


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Alive?



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Born before 1970


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Yes English


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Yes male


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Dead


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Yes English


Born south of the washing line?


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born North of the "washing line"


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Did he represent any of the founding members of the Football League at any time?


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He did not play for one of the 12 F.L. founding clubs


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Was he a full England international?


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He was a full England international


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He was a full England international


More than 10 caps?


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yes more than 10 caps


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Surname A-L?



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Did he play in a World Cup finals tournament?


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No he did not play in a World Cup Finals tournament


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Was he noted for playing any other sports?


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A goalkeeper?


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Not noted for other sports


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Not a goalkeeper


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He was a full England international

Pre WW1?



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not a pre WWI England international


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I'll go for Jeff Hall, whose death at 30 from polio triggered demands for a proper vaccination programme.
https://en.wikipedia.org/...ff_Hall_(footballer)


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not Jeff Hall


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Surname A-F?



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Yes surname A-F


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Did he play for Manchester United?


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He did not play for Manchester United


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yes more than 10 caps


More than 20 caps?


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20 caps or less


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Q: Did he ever score for England?

G: Wilf Copping, the original hard man of English football (and one of only 5 possible players I think...) his most famous quote was "the first man in a tackle never gets hurt" .I'm not seeing anything hugely quizworthy on any of the players' Wiki pages but maybe we're looking for something that requires more in-depth research...


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Q: Did he ever score for England?

G: Wilf Copping, the original hard man of English football (and one of only 5 possible players I think...) his most famous quote was "the first man in a tackle never gets hurt" .I'm not seeing anything hugely quizworthy on any of the players' Wiki pages but maybe we're looking for something that requires more in-depth research...


He was never booked or sent off in his career (but I guess many others weren't either).


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G: Eric Brook: Brook appears in The EFG Bumper Book of QI Annuals in which he is portrayed (imaginarily) with one arm in a sling and another arm in the air, with his hand grasping the Jules Rimet Trophy, with two teammates holding him aloft, in a similar fashion to how Bobby Moore was held aloft by his teammates after England's victory in the 1966 FIFA World Cup Final, due to his brace in the 32 victory over the then World Champions Italy at the Battle of Highbury in 1934.


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yes he scored for England

no Wilf Copping

reason chosen does not appear on his Wiki it seems


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not Eric Brook


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Played for England after WW2?


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Did not play for England after WWII


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Is our man Joe Bradford?



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I'll pinch it off your toe with the reason for Joe Bradford:
In September 1929 he had an amazing eight days when he scored 11 goals, three for Blues against Newcastle, five for the Football League v The Irish League and another hat-trick for Blues against Blackburn Rovers.


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It is Joe Bradford


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It is not that but as I am having trouble finding it on line, other than on a subscription service, I will confirm that it is another goal scoring record of his


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G: Is it him being top goalscorer for his club in 12 consecutive seasons?

Q: If not is the record to do with club appearances as opposed to international?


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It is not his 12 consecutive top scoring seasons (inc. cups) for Birmingham

Nothing to do with appearances (club or international)


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It is not that but as I am having trouble finding it on line, other than on a subscription service, I will confirm that it is another goal scoring record of his

Record related to a single season?



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No it is a career ecord


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Has his record since been surpassed?



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No it is still the record


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Completely random guess, was he the first person born in the 20th century to score for England?



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No that is not the reason - was he the first person born in the 20th century to score for England


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Domestic or international record?


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It is a domestic all time scoring record that still stands


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The top ten in this category (as at 1st August 2019) is -

1. Joe Bradford
2. Steve Bloomer
3. Harry Bedford
4. Jimmy Greaves
5= Arthur Rowley
5= Alan Shearer
7= Tommy Barnett
7= Steve Bloomer (again)
7= Charles Buchan
7= Charles Buchan (again)
7= Dixie Dean
7= George Goddard
7= Jimmy Greaves (again)


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Anything to do with trophies, or lack of?


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Nothing to do with trophies, it relates to goal scoring (see post 46)


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Does it involve scoring in consecutive matches?



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Number of seasons he was top goalscorer at his club



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Not consecutive matches


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Not seasons he was club top scorer


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The top ten in this category (as at 1st August 2019) is -
(with totals)

1. Joe Bradford 29
2. Steve Bloomer 28
3. Harry Bedford 25
4. Jimmy Greaves 24
5= Arthur Rowley 21
5= Alan Shearer 21
7= Tommy Barnett 20
7= Steve Bloomer (again) 20
7= Charles Buchan 20
7= Charles Buchan (again) 20
7= Dixie Dean 20
7= George Goddard 20
7= Jimmy Greaves (again) 20


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Hat tricks?


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good thinking but that record is held by Dixie Dean with 40,
with Jimmy Greaves and Arthur Rowley next on 28

if it was cricket think of
David Warner & Stuart Broad
Mike Atherton & Glenn McGrath
David Gower & Geoff Lawson
Moeen Ali & Nathan Lyon


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Is it most goals scored against particular team(s)?


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Exactly that - now for the goal who did Joe Bradford score 29 against during his career?


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The top ten in this category (as at 1st August 2019) is -
(with totals)

1. Joe Bradford 29 v???
2. Steve Bloomer 28 v Nottingham F.
3. Harry Bedford 25 v Sheffield W.
4. Jimmy Greaves 24 v Nottingham F.
5= Arthur Rowley 21 v Bury
5= Alan Shearer 21 v Leeds U.
7= Tommy Barnett 20 v Torquay U.
7= Steve Bloomer (again) 20 v Wolverhampton W.
7= Charles Buchan 20 v Blackburn R.
7= Charles Buchan (again) 20 v Liverpool
7= Dixie Dean 20 v Bolton W.
7= George Goddard 20 v Newport Co.
7= Jimmy Greaves (again) 20 v Burnley


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Manchester City



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it was not Manchester City


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Q: Is the club north of Villa Park?

G: Sheffield Utd?


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Yes a club north of Villa Park but not Sheffield United


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Blackburn Rovers



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