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AussieWhoosh
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First it was the blatent dive in 2006 in injury time that gave Italy a penalty and a 1-0 win over Australia.
Now it is an Italian referee who virtually ends our chances in 2010 with the most ridulous red card ever. How on earth is Kewell given red for a ball to hand.....sure it is a penalty, no argument there.....but a red card.

What do Italians have against us....I am gonna boycott pasta and pizza for the rest of the World Cup.

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Stopped a certain goal with his arm. If the referee gives a penalty then he has no alternative other than to show a red card.



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Actually wrong....he could have given a yellow card, have seen that in plenty of matches...penalty awarded with a yellow card
otherwise all direct free kicks should result in a red card and not a yellow card cos after all a penalty is a direct free kick given in the penalty area



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Sorry but if it stops a certain goal it has to be a red card and I really don't know what Kewell was protesting about.


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Actually wrong....he could have given a yellow card, have seen that in plenty of matches...penalty awarded with a yellow card
otherwise all direct free kicks should result in a red card and not a yellow card cos after all a penalty is a direct free kick given in the penalty area


Wrong. Penalties may be awarded with a yellow card or no card at all if the foul was not denying an attacker a goal scoring opportunity.

Once the referee had deemed Kewell's handball was deliberate it had to be a red card. Since you have already accepted the penalty was the right decision a red card must automatically follow since Kewell's handball clearly prevented a goal.


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The trouble is that the word deliberate sits in both sections of the rules - the offence must be deemed deliberate for the penalty to be awarded, and as it stopped an obvious goal scoring chance, it must be a red card. I think this is why Kewell was so upset - not claiming that the ball did not hit his arm, but claiming it was not deliberate.



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First it was the blatent dive in 2006 in injury time that gave Italy a penalty and a 1-0 win over Australia.
Now it is an Italian referee who virtually ends our chances in 2010 with the most ridulous red card ever. How on earth is Kewell given red for a ball to hand.....sure it is a penalty, no argument there.....but a red card.

What do Italians have against us....I am gonna boycott pasta and pizza for the rest of the World Cup.

Darren in Australia



If you dont know the rules you should not make such comments.


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Actually wrong....he could have given a yellow card, have seen that in plenty of matches...penalty awarded with a yellow card
otherwise all direct free kicks should result in a red card and not a yellow card cos after all a penalty is a direct free kick given in the penalty area



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Actually wrong....he could have given a yellow card, have seen that in plenty of matches...penalty awarded with a yellow card
otherwise all direct free kicks should result in a red card and not a yellow card cos after all a penalty is a direct free kick given in the penalty area



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First it was the blatent dive in 2006 in injury time that gave Italy a penalty and a 1-0 win over Australia.
Now it is an Italian referee who virtually ends our chances in 2010 with the most ridulous red card ever. How on earth is Kewell given red for a ball to hand.....sure it is a penalty, no argument there.....but a red card.


If it's a penalty it's a sending off - handball has to be deliberate to be penalised.



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Darren, I think you must have gleaned from the replies you are a whinging "Cry Baby".
Come on New Zealand , at least they are in in Oceania. You are too good for that ?
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Well if I am a whinger it must be my English blood coming out....and I have plenty of that running through my system.

However, I am the first to admit if I have made an error and obviously from the replies I have made an error in understanding the rule...so fair enough. Red card it is then...though I will still boycott pizza and pasta and I did celebrate New Zealand's goal against the Italians cos they are still cheats.....again a dive to win a penalty.

To answer your question whether we are too good for Oceania.....I cannot answer that. The FFA decided to go to the Asian federation "which is a lot harder to qualify from" for reasons unknown to me. Personally I think Asia and Oceania should be one Confederation anyway.

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VMFC1987
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the Italians cos they are still cheats.....again a dive to win a penalty.


Shocked

You forgett to mention that we had a player sent off after Kewell (who else?) made a meal out of a clear tackle. Also, I didnt think it was a dive, but then again I am biased here probably. Still you didnt manage to score against 10men and you paid for that. Get on with that, sometime you get away with something, sometime you dont. Welcome to the world of football.


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Never mind we all make mistakes!

It was a clear cut penalty the Italians got against the Kiwis for shirt pulling.

I read somewhere that the Aussies had opted for the Asian group as it wasn't so far for their Europe based players to travel.


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I thought it was because they were fed up winning 31-0 and romping the OFC region only to lose in a play-off every 4 years.

I agree with Darren, the OFC teams would be better subsumed into the AFC qualifying system, even if the early rounds are still regionalised. In fact, with a bit of rejigging you could keep it as it is but have the OFC qualifier just go into the final AFC round. Will all due respect to the other teams in the OFC region we're talking about small islands with barely any (if any at all) professional football being played. NZ and Oz are unfortunate that that's what they get to test themselves against.

As for the red card, definately a red and yes, I think Darren was having a bit of a whinge as we all do from time to time, although I reckon it's his Aussie genes causing that, not the English ones... Tongue


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..though I will still boycott pizza and pasta and I did celebrate New Zealand's goal against the Italians cos they are still cheats.....again a dive to win a penalty.

Darren in Australia

It seems to me that they are all cheats to differing degrees, maybe with the exception of North Korea. And look where honesty has got them. Tongue



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"Bloody Italians" - someone who finally agrees with my views of Italian football!

I detest watching Italy's national team as they cheat. They dive. They go down like they've been shot. They foul the opposition and expect the player to get straight back up. They go 1-0 up and defend, 11 men behind the ball. They go 1-0 down and they quite happily kick lumps out of the opposition to get an equaliser.

Totti in 2006, I remember screaming in anger at the TV after that. It was horrific. This tournament, the penalty v New Zealand was another example of the Italians getting favoured.

Italian football is pathetic.


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"Bloody Italians" - someone who finally agrees with my views of Italian football!

I detest watching Italy's national team as they cheat. They dive. They go down like they've been shot. They foul the opposition and expect the player to get straight back up. They go 1-0 up and defend, 11 men behind the ball. They go 1-0 down and they quite happily kick lumps out of the opposition to get an equaliser.

Totti in 2006, I remember screaming in anger at the TV after that. It was horrific. This tournament, the penalty v New Zealand was another example of the Italians getting favoured.

Italian football is pathetic.



I don't disagree with you Tom but in all fairness the penalty against New Zealand was correct as there was shirt pulling even if the Italian player made the most of it.

As for going down like they've been shot well we've seen quite a bit of that from other nations as well, and I thought ref's were supposed to book players who wave imaginary cards at them trying to get other players booked? I've not seen any evidence of that actually happening.

I can't remember what Totti did in 2006 but I do remember him being a victim of a cheating English player (Martin Keown) in a CL game at Arsenal when hard man Keown was pole axed by getting Totti's finger nail in his face.


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"Bloody Italians" - someone who finally agrees with my views of Italian football!

I detest watching Italy's national team as they cheat. They dive. They go down like they've been shot. They foul the opposition and expect the player to get straight back up. They go 1-0 up and defend, 11 men behind the ball. They go 1-0 down and they quite happily kick lumps out of the opposition to get an equaliser.

Totti in 2006, I remember screaming in anger at the TV after that. It was horrific. This tournament, the penalty v New Zealand was another example of the Italians getting favoured.

Italian football is pathetic.



Oh yes, we have especially a player who is well known for diving. His name is Stefano Gerrardo, have you ever heard of him?? Sly


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"Bloody Italians" - someone who finally agrees with my views of Italian football!

I detest watching Italy's national team as they cheat. They dive. They go down like they've been shot. They foul the opposition and expect the player to get straight back up. They go 1-0 up and defend, 11 men behind the ball. They go 1-0 down and they quite happily kick lumps out of the opposition to get an equaliser.

Totti in 2006, I remember screaming in anger at the TV after that. It was horrific. This tournament, the penalty v New Zealand was another example of the Italians getting favoured.

Italian football is pathetic.


But their performance in the 2006 semis against Germany was exemplary in every respect - controlled, fair and clinical.


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"Bloody Italians" - someone who finally agrees with my views of Italian football!

I detest watching Italy's national team as they cheat. They dive. They go down like they've been shot. They foul the opposition and expect the player to get straight back up. They go 1-0 up and defend, 11 men behind the ball. They go 1-0 down and they quite happily kick lumps out of the opposition to get an equaliser.

Totti in 2006, I remember screaming in anger at the TV after that. It was horrific. This tournament, the penalty v New Zealand was another example of the Italians getting favoured.

Italian football is pathetic.


But their performance in the 2006 semis against Germany was exemplary in every respect - controlled, fair and clinical.


Thank you Sir! Cool


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"Bloody Italians" - someone who finally agrees with my views of Italian football!

I detest watching Italy's national team as they cheat. They dive. They go down like they've been shot. They foul the opposition and expect the player to get straight back up. They go 1-0 up and defend, 11 men behind the ball. They go 1-0 down and they quite happily kick lumps out of the opposition to get an equaliser.

Totti in 2006, I remember screaming in anger at the TV after that. It was horrific. This tournament, the penalty v New Zealand was another example of the Italians getting favoured.

Italian football is pathetic.


But their performance in the 2006 semis against Germany was exemplary in every respect - controlled, fair and clinical.


Thank you Sir! Cool


No comment on the other 6 games.... Tongue


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"Bloody Italians" - someone who finally agrees with my views of Italian football!

I detest watching Italy's national team as they cheat. They dive. They go down like they've been shot. They foul the opposition and expect the player to get straight back up. They go 1-0 up and defend, 11 men behind the ball. They go 1-0 down and they quite happily kick lumps out of the opposition to get an equaliser.

Totti in 2006, I remember screaming in anger at the TV after that. It was horrific. This tournament, the penalty v New Zealand was another example of the Italians getting favoured.

Italian football is pathetic.


But their performance in the 2006 semis against Germany was exemplary in every respect - controlled, fair and clinical.


Thank you Sir! Cool


No comment on the other 6 games.... Tongue



Mmm I was at all the games and believe me I am always very harsh with judging our performances but let me tell you, apart from Australia where we were lucky to get away with a penalty (that I still reckon it was). While against Ghana and Czech we were superior in every part of the pitch, against USA we struggled, they gave us hard time I admit it, but you should have learnt by now that the Yanks are not a bad side either.
Against Ukraine and Germany we were far the better side and in the final, well only a very tense and nailbiting game. Surely if you get to that stage Don Fabio will teach your boys the Italian job, win some games without impressing so much.

Thats why we have 4 stars in our shirts!


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Mmm I was at all the games and believe me I am always very harsh with judging our performances but let me tell you, apart from Australia where we were lucky to get away with a penalty (that I still reckon it was). While against Ghana and Czech we were superior in every part of the pitch, against USA we struggled, they gave us hard time I admit it, but you should have learnt by now that the Yanks are not a bad side either.
Against Ukraine and Germany we were far the better side and in the final, well only a very tense and nailbiting game. Surely if you get to that stage Don Fabio will teach your boys the Italian job, win some games without impressing so much.


That's where my hopes are pinned!!


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"Bloody Italians" - someone who finally agrees with my views of Italian football!

I detest watching Italy's national team as they cheat. They dive. They go down like they've been shot. They foul the opposition and expect the player to get straight back up.

Sounds like most Premiership games to me, Tom. Crazy



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