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stevegraze
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London Sunday Intermediate Cup
Fixtures
List of clubs with byes
Round 1
1. 23/09/12 Elms F.C. (First) VS Shoots & Leaves F.C. (First)
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2. 23/09/12 Athletico Annies F.C. (First) VS E.Y. International F.C. (First)
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3. 23/09/12 Lord Stanley F.C. (First) VS Lsportc F.C. (First)
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4. 23/09/12 Convoys F.C. (First) VS A.C. Manor Park (First)
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5. 23/09/12 Koture F.C. (First) VS Politics F.C. (First)
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6. 23/09/12 Parklife F.C. (First) VS Mass F.C. (First)
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7. 23/09/12 Cetinkaya Cinar F.C. (First) VS Enfield Crusaders F.C. (First)
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8. 23/09/12 Norstar F.C. (A Team) VS Apoel F.C. (UK) (Reserves)
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9. 23/09/12 Albion Manor F.C. (First) VS F.C. Team (A Team)
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Round 2
10. 21/10/12 Winner of Match 8 VS Antalyaspor (UK) F.C. (First)
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11. 21/10/12 Pendayia FC (First) VS Heegan F.C. (First)
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12. 21/10/12 Danson Albion F.C. (A Team) VS Cobden Athletic F.C. (First)
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13. 21/10/12 Reama F.C. (First) VS Brotherhood F.C. (First)
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14. 21/10/12 Sabanoh '97 F.C. (First) VS Norton F.C. (First)
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15. 21/10/12 Winner of Match 7 VS Ship F.C. (First)
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16. 21/10/12 Inter Asia F.C. (First) VS Bullers F.C. (First)
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17. 21/10/12 Hatch Lane United F.C. (First) VS Faithfold F.C. (A Team)
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18. 18/11/12 Brixton Old Boys F.C. (First) VS Winner of Match 1
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19. 18/11/12 Westminster Wanderers F.C. (1st XI) VS Winner of Match 6
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20. 18/11/12 Winner of Match 9 VS Anorthosis F.C. (First)
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21. 18/11/12 Turkmenkoy Aydin Spor Kulubu F.C. (First) VS E.Y. International F.C. (First)
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22. 18/11/12 Winner of Match 3 VS F.C. Marcelona (First)
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23. 18/11/12 Winner of Match 5 VS F.C. Alpha (First)
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24. 18/11/12 Northumberland Park Rangers F.C. (A) VS Southern Cross F.C. (First)
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25. 18/11/12 Barking Tigers F.C. (First) VS Winner of Match 4
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If you are wondering where Edmonton Rovers are in that draw, we have been demoted by the London F.A. into the Sunday Junior Cup this season because we are 'not good enough'.

Bit harsh I think, but at least we might have a chance to progress past the First Round this time. Wink



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Ouch - that is harsh. That said - you have a good draw in the first round against Lord Morpeth FC. They play in Div 4 (bottom division - i.e. 5th division) of the Hackney & Leyton League. Before that, they were in Division 1 of the East London Sunday League.

Being entered into the Junior Cup might be a blessing in disguise for you as it will give your team a better chance of progressing far in county cup competition this year.

Do you think the LFA "punished" you after the e-mails we sent them asking them to re-classify clubs in the LFA county cups?! Wink At least they listened to one of my recommendations and demoted Kensington Athletic from the Intermediate Cup to the Junior Cup!


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If you are wondering where Edmonton Rovers are in that draw, we have been demoted by the London F.A. into the Sunday Junior Cup this season because we are 'not good enough'.

Bit harsh I think, but at least we might have a chance to progress past the First Round this time. Wink



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The remaining Second Round matches in this competition take place this coming Sunday (18th November).

I haven't really studied the teams taking part as my own team are in the Sunday Junior Cup this season instead of the Intermediate, but I strongly fancy one of either Cetinkaya Cinar, Lord Stanley or FC Alpha to win it, or at least get through to the Final.

Cetinkaya Cinar are currently in mid-table in the KOPA League, but they beat a very strong Enfield Crusaders side 3-2 in the First Round and then demolished The Ship 7-1 in their Second Round match in October.
Enfield Crusaders are currently top of Division One in the Waltham Sunday League and my team are playing them this coming Sunday.

FC Alpha are playing Away to Turkish Community Football Federation side Koture this coming Sunday, presumably at Pymmes Park in an Edmonton/Enfield derby. Koture are a mid-table side in the top division of their League, but they won 7-0 in the First Round and reached the Semi-Finals of this competition last season where they only lost 1-0 to the eventual winners (and fellow TCFF side) Yalova.
We played FC Alpha on Sunday just gone in a Waltham Sunday League Division One match and lost 1-0, but they are a quality side and 'murdered us' in the Second Half to be honest. Highlights are here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU30bC-aG0g.
Their game against Koture should be a cracking match and well worth watching.

Unfortunately the winners will then be playing Cetinkaya Cinar in the Third Round ! That's a real blow for the Edmonton/Enfield area teams and it maybe paves the way for some of the South London-based sides (who I know nothing about) to go far.



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Cetinkaya Cinar and Lord Stanley must fancy their chances. Sabanoh 97 could be dark horses. They got to the quarter-final last year and put up a good fight against Lapton before losing. They also won a Kent/south London county cup before.

I have to say - this must be the weakest Intermediate Cup in a long time (as a consequence of the LFA finally moving all the best teams up to the Challenge Cup).


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Here's the draw for the Third Round...to take place on Sunday 16th December: http://www.londonfa.com/...cup/fixtures#round-3

Koture beat FC Alpha 6-3 in their Second Round match on Sunday. I have no idea what happened there, as I expected FC Alpha to win that one, having played against them the week before.
I believe it was an afternoon kick-off, so maybe that had something to do with it ? FC Alpha play their League matches in the mornings.

Lord Stanley beating FC Marcelona 5-2 was no surprise.
There were impressive wins for Convoys (7-2 Away to Barking Tigers) and Southern Cross (3-0 Away to Northumberland Park Rangers). Both of those teams would have been decent opponents, so it looks as if Convoys (in particular) and Southern Cross could be teams to watch out for. Convoys were Runners-Up in this competition two seasons ago.

Koture are now at Home to Cetinkaya Cinar in the Third Round and the Winners of that will then be Away to Lord Stanley or Bullers (who beat Inter Asia 8-1 Away in the Second Round), so some good teams are going to get knocked out there.

Convoys are in the other half of the draw, so I'm sticking my neck out and going for a Koture v. Convoys Final.



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Koture beat FC Alpha 6-3 in their Second Round match on Sunday. I have no idea what happened there, as I expected FC Alpha to win that one, having played against them the week before.
I believe it was an afternoon kick-off, so maybe that had something to do with it ? FC Alpha play their League matches in the mornings.


Apparently both teams agreed to kick-off at 12.00. mid-day (because it was played at Pymmes Park in Edmonton where they play three matches on the same ('grass' !) pitch one after the other (10:00, 12:00, 14:00) in one day), but the Ref was a 'jobsworth' and told them they had to wait until 2.00.p.m. because it says in the London FA's Sunday Cup rules that matches must kick-off no later than 10.30.a.m. in the morning or no earlier than 2.00.p.m. in the afternoon !

FC Alpha were already missing several key players because it was a mid-day kick-off, then three more had to leave because they had other commitments at 2.00.p.m.
They ended up having to put an outfield player in goal who was presumably useless.
Apparently it was pitch black when the game finished. I think it went to Extra-Time as I know it was 3-3 at one stage.

The Referee was Turkish (according to FC Alpha). Wink



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Why can't the LFA bother to post the results of their county cups this season? They simply give the draws for each round, without bothering to update the results from the previous round!

Also, what are Koture, Cetinkya, Brotherhood, Pendayia, Cobden Athletic and Faithfold doing in this cup? They are all top division teams and should be in the Challenge Cup. I think one of the Turkish/Cypriot league teams (incorrectly!) in this cup will reach the final (Koture, Cetinkya, Brotherhood, Pendayia). Still maintain that Sabanoh 97 might surprise a few.


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Why can't the LFA bother to post the results of their county cups this season? They simply give the draws for each round, without bothering to update the results from the previous round!


They are putting the results up...and fairly quickly actually (compared to normal).

The problem is that they seem to have separate pages for Results and the Fixtures. If you click on the Fixtures links, it lists the Fixtures for every round even after they have all been played. If you click on the Results links, you can't see the forthcoming fixtures as a result of those Results...if you see what I mean ? Wink

It needs one page listing all the results up-to-date with the unplayed matches from those rounds mixed in, then the draw/fixtures for the remaining rounds following underneath...but that's presumably the fault of the (rubbish in my opinion) software that all County FA's have to use nowadays. Not the London FA's fault.



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Anyone know the score of the Stanley V Cetinkaya game?

Shoots beat southern cross 2-1


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Anyone know the score of the Stanley V Cetinkaya game?


I wonder if this is one of these 'disputed' games that crop up from time to time where the London FA keeps everybody in the dark by just leaving the original date that the game was due to be played up on their website and there being no sign of a re-arrangement ? No mention that the game was abandoned or one of the teams played ineligible players...that sort of thing. Then all of a sudden the team waiting to play the winners suddenly gets confirmation in the post of who they are playing.

It's very difficult to tell with Lord Stanley and Cetinkaya Cinar, as neither of them appear to have a club website, while the Leagues they play in never mention County Cup results.
Maybe they have pages on Facebook or Twitter ?



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We are supposed to be playing the winner of this one next week.

Does anyone have any clues as to the quality of these teams.

I hope Stanley don't win as this would mean almost 1 1/2 hrs journey before a ball is even kicked.

Don't Essex have their own cup?


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If you are wondering where Edmonton Rovers are in that draw, we have been demoted by the London F.A. into the Sunday Junior Cup this season because we are 'not good enough'.

Bit harsh I think, but at least we might have a chance to progress past the First Round this time. Wink


I see the final is at Wingate & Finchley on April 7th.

How is intermediate distinguished from junior anyway?


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We are supposed to be playing the winner of this one next week.

Does anyone have any clues as to the quality of these teams.

I hope Stanley don't win as this would mean almost 1 1/2 hrs journey before a ball is even kicked.

Don't Essex have their own cup?

You are playing Cetinkaya Cinar from the KOPA League.
Not sure if this link will work: http://www.kopaleague.com/...tid=8&Itemid=860
They beat Lord Stanley on penalties in their Quarter-Final yesterday. It was 2-2 After Extra Time.

I think Cetinkaya Cinar now play on the 3G pitch at the New River Sports Centre in Wood Green. They used to play at Bush Hill Park in Enfield when we played them about 3 or 4 years ago. We beat them 1-0 in a Pre-Season Friendly.



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There are three LFA Sunday Cups - in decreasing order of seniority:

  • Challenge Cup - for Premier/elite teams. Pretty much step 4-5 football. Most teams consist of semi-pro Saturday players.
  • Intermediate Cup - mostly teams in Div 1 (i.e. second tier) of their league.
  • Junior Cup - for lower division teams.

That is the way it is SUPPOSED to be. However the LFA does not always get the gradings right and every now and then, Premier Div teams slip through the cracks and get put in the Junior or Intermediate Cups (e.g. Yalova!), or lower division clubs end up in the Intermediate Cup. We have made our displeasure at this known, and have debated the issue before at: http://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/...22%20premier;#377795


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I see the final is at Wingate & Finchley on April 7th.

How is intermediate distinguished from junior anyway?


In London FA-affiliated Sunday League football, for London FA Sunday Cup competitions, you generally have three levels....Senior/Challenge Cup, Intermediate Cup and Junior Cup.
Senior/Challenge is generally for top division teams in the stronger Sunday Leagues, Intermediate is generally for other top division or next-division down teams, and Junior is supposed to be for teams in lower divisions. It doesn't always work like that though, as a lot of teams suddenly become 'good' or 'bad' once the season starts !

It is nothing to do with age (e.g. Over-30's/21-30/Under-21's), if that's what you are thinking ? Wink



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Essex (and other county FAs) do have their own county cups. However some teams that are close to border areas between different counties often: (a) play in a league in one county, but enter a different county FA's county cup (e.g. Highgate Albion and BOBM from London, playing in the Middx county FA's Sunday cups); or (b) some teams play in multiple county cups in different counties. Examples:

Apoel (Hertfordshire and London)
Barnes Albion (won the Surrey AND Middlesex Sunday Premier Cups in the same season)
Baldon Sports (Kent and London)
FC Belstone (won both the Hertfordshire and Middlesex Premier Cups in 2011)
Burnt Oak Builders Merchants (Middlesex and London)
Dees (Surrey and London)
Hatcham (Kent and London)
Highgate Albion (Middlesex and London)
Lambeth All Stars (Surrey and London)
North London Olympians (Middlesex and London)

Another reason to avoid playing Lord Stanley (apart from distance) is the fact that they won the Junior Cup last season and are a very good team.


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Thanks for the info hughesvideo, much appreciated.

I think my team has done pretty well to get this far, we are just a bunch of decent/average players that have never played at any level other than Sunday league, when i read your posts about how teams from the junior cup have players playing levels 2,3 & 4, makes me believe the junior cup might have been stronger then the inter.

I think we have been lucky with the draw as we haven't faced a strong team yet, apart maybe from Southern Cross who under estimated us, as we are in the same league.

But it looks as if we will have our work cut out for us agains't Cetinkaya Cinar


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I think my team has done pretty well to get this far, we are just a bunch of decent/average players that have never played at any level other than Sunday league, when i read your posts about how teams from the junior cup have players playing levels 2,3 & 4, makes me believe the junior cup might have been stronger then the inter.


We played in the LFA Sunday Intermediate Cup for about 8 seasons before the London FA dumped us in the Junior for this season, and I can honestly say that all five teams we played in the Junior this season were all better or at least as good as well over half the teams we have played in the Intermediate during the past 8 seasons.

The main reason for that is that in Sunday football you get a heck of a lot of Step 3-7 players wanting an easy game with their mates on a Sunday instead of another tough game in a Premier Division or an LFA Sunday Challenge/Intermediate Cup match the day after they have played in a Semi-Pro match.
That certainly happens a lot in my team's League (the Waltham Sunday).
Also, the London FA don't make it compulsory for all clubs to enter their Sunday Cup competitions, so invariably you only get good well-organised teams entering any of the three. Teams from bottom divisions full of players with beer guts and people who can't kick the ball properly generally don't bother entering.

Shoots...did some of your players used to play for a (now-defunct) team called Olympia in your League ?
We played them at Riverside Lands in Chiswick in the LFA Sunday Intermediate Cup about 4 or 5 years ago and lost 3-2 (rather unluckily). I seem to remember their Manager saying something about them merging with or being connected with Shoots & Leaves in some way. I remember they had one player who must have been about 7 foot tall ! There's a picture of him here amongst this picture gallery: http://www.edmontonrovers.co.uk/...allery2008-2009.html



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We have two players from Olympia & yes one of them is 6ft 6" Spencer, but he doesn't play that often due to other commitments.

We have some former Chelsea Town players who used to be a well run outfit a few years back.

Unfortunately our keeper broke his leg last season & it has been impossible to replace him.

We managed to get two great players this season who had come down from Birmingham, they have made a big difference


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I am very surprised by this. Watching your match videos, the teams you BEAT in the Junior Cup this season did not seem to have the same quality as other sides you played in the Intermediate Cup in previous seasons. e.g. I find it hard to imagine the reserve teams of Dees and LML, or Lord Morpeth being able to compete with your previous Intermediate cup opponents like Charlton Utd, Yavruvatan, Nacional de Londres, Eureka or Albion Manor. Of those teams most got to the latter rounds, won it (Eureka), got to the final (Yavruvatan), or were knocked out by teams that made it to the end (Albion Manor).

e.g. from the videos of your matches BEFORE you played MSS, I did not see a single player who I thought was good enough to play for any of your Intermediate Cup opponents.


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We played in the LFA Sunday Intermediate Cup for about 8 seasons before the London FA dumped us in the Junior for this season, and I can honestly say that all five teams we played in the Junior this season were all better or at least as good as well over half the teams we have played in the Intermediate during the past 8 seasons.



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We played in the LFA Sunday Intermediate Cup for about 8 seasons before the London FA dumped us in the Junior for this season, and I can honestly say that all five teams we played in the Junior this season were all better or at least as good as well over half the teams we have played in the Intermediate during the past 8 seasons.



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I am very surprised by this. Watching your match videos, the teams you BEAT in the Junior Cup this season did not seem to have the same quality as other sides you played in the Intermediate Cup in previous seasons. e.g. I find it hard to imagine the reserve teams of Dees and LML, or Lord Morpeth being able to compete with your previous Intermediate cup opponents like Charlton Utd, Yavruvatan, Nacional de Londres, Eureka or Albion Manor. Of those teams most got to the latter rounds, won it (Eureka), got to the final (Yavruvatan), or were knocked out by teams that made it to the end (Albion Manor).

e.g. from the videos of your matches BEFORE you played MSS, I did not see a single player who I thought was good enough to play for any of your Intermediate Cup opponents.

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Here are our results from the 7 seasons (not 8) that we played in the London FA Sunday Intermediate Cup:
2005/2006
Won 13-1 v. A Small World
A Small World were the worst team we have ever played in our 36-year history ! ...and they were actually doing well in their League (the West End AFA).
Lost 3-4 (AET) to North West Neasden 'A'
They were the top team in the Maccabi League Premier Division at the time but I would say only marginally better than London Maccabi Lions 'B'.
2006/2007
Lost 2-4 to Frenford Sunday
They went on to win the competition...and the Essex FA Sunday Premier Cup !
2007/2008
Won on pens (3-3 AET) v. South West Soldiers
They were a decent side from the Sportsmans Sunday League, but no better or worse than the 5 teams we have played in the Junior Cup this season.
Lost 0-4 to Eureka
...which you know all about !
2008/2009
Lost 2-3 to Olympia
They were a very ordinary side and we were dreadful on the day. They were worse than all five teams in the Junior Cup.
2009/2010
Won 5-1 v. Russellers
Another poor side from the lower divisions of the Kent Suburban League who were in the wrong Cup.
Won 6-5 (AET) v. Nacional De Londres
Very good side going forward, but defensively they were shocking...and worse than all five teams in the Junior Cup.
Lost 2-4 to Yavruvatan
Again, like N.D.L., very good going forward, but suspect defensively. Again, I would say that all five Junior Cup teams were marginally better than them at the back.
2010/2011
Won 7-0 v. Kensington Athletic
Like A Small World and Russellers, they were in the wrong Cup...as we know.
Lost 2-3 (AET) v. Charlton United
Charlton United and Eureka are the two best sides we played in the Intermediate. Both were better than Frenford Sunday.
2011-2012
Lost 0-1 to Albion Manor
I still maintain that there was no difference whatsoever between Albion Manor and any of the five teams we have played in the Junior this season. Obviously if we had played them the season before, then there would have been a difference.

So...North-West Neasden 'A', Frenford Sunday, Eureka & Charlton United...yes, all definitely better than the 5 Junior teams.

South-West Soldiers, Nacional De Londres, Yavruvan & Albion Manor...all roughly about the same, better in some areas, worse in others.

A Small World, Olympia, Russellers & Kensington Athletic...all definitely worse than the 5 Junior teams.

Our opponents in the Junior Cup this season:
Lord Morpeth Won 2-0. They are currently top of their division (or near enough) and had strengthened their side with ex Semi-Pros and ex-Hackney & Leyton Sunday League Premier Division players for this season.
Bromley Knights Won 1-0. I know they were missing a few key players, but they were still unbeaten in their division at the time. They might even be in the Sunday Challenge Cup next season ! (as an Orpington & Bromley Sunday League top division side when they get promoted).
Dees Reserves Won 2-1. We were supposed to be playing Dees Reserves, but they clearly put half their First Team in. Their Reserves also play in the Surrey Intermediate Cup, not the Junior, so as far as I am concerned, they were Intermediate standard.
London Maccabi Lions 'B' Won 1-0. Top of their division and better than their 'A' Team...who enter the FA National Sunday Cup !
Middlesbrough Supporters Lost 8-1...because our keeper had a mare and we played the wrong tactics ! Crazy

I assure you that the You Tube highlights really don't portray the games as a whole. Good defending is never included and things like 20-pass one-touch moves (as Dees Reserves did on at least one occasion) are never included when they don't lead to a shot at goal. You really cannot guage the standard wholly from those highlights.



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Shock Result

Cetinkaya Cinar 1-2 Shoots & leaves

Anyone know the result of the other Semi?

Hughesvideo I think we would like you to do the Matchday videoing for us, whats the best way to organize it?


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Congratulations to Shoots & Leaves. Good luck in the final against Faithfold of the Maccabi Jewish League (final at Wingate & Finchley FC). They beat Convoys 3-2 AET (there is more than one team called Convoys, but this is the team from the Metropolitan Sunday League). How was your game against Cetinkaya? How good were they? Not sure what they are doing in the Intermediate Cup (they won the Junior Cup in 2009 too). They should be in the Challenge Cup.

BTW, you beating Cetinkaya prevented an all community leagues cup final. Had they won, it would have been teams from the Cypriot and Jewish leagues in the final. We currently have a situation where all three LFA Sunday Cups could be won by teams from the Cypriot, Turkish and Jewish Leagues. Incredible when you think about it - since the teams in those leagues have a much smaller pool of the population to recruit players, since players must be of a certain ethnicity. Yet teams who are free to pick players from Mars do not do as well as them in LFA Cups!

How has your league been since the two best teams (Fulham United and Pearscroft United) departed it? Has it diminished the quality of the league? Pearscroft have got off to a flying start in Saturday football:
http://nonleaguematters.co.uk/...;;page=unread#unread


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We currently have a situation where all three LFA Sunday Cups could be won by teams from the Cypriot, Turkish and Jewish Leagues. Incredible when you think about it - since the teams in those leagues have a much smaller pool of the population to recruit players, since players must be of a certain ethnicity.


...but then as far as the KOPA and TCFF Leagues are concerned, that only applies to their League matches. They can play who they want in the LFA Cups, which makes Shoots & Leaves' victory even more remarkable. I will be amazed if Cetinkaya Cinar didn't bring in a number of top quality non-Turkish Cypriot Semi-Pros especially for that match. (They are only allowed to play three of them at any one time in their League matches).

Great result for Shoots & Leaves and it will give other 'Open League' teams hope that they can end the KOPA & TCFF League's dominance in these competitions.

Faithfold's achievement in reaching the Final is certainly worthy of mention though, as the Maccabi League don't even allow non-Jewish players to register, so that means Faithfold would have been fielding an all-Jewish team in the Semi-Final against Convoys.



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