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Ronsdog
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Whilst having no wish to intrude on Arsenals grief is it time for Mr Wenger to step aside ?

ps...they were certainly outplayed again this eveningWink


kirby knitters
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Loads about this on the Leicester City thread so many thanks for kicking this one off sir. (unless he turns up at the KPSSly)


dottirofhod
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Apr 10, 2017, 11:37 PM

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Yes.


PS....Yes they were.



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paulh66
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Apr 11, 2017, 12:22 AM

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Suppose the key question is whether he can recruit top quality players with steel and determination in the summer. It's been a long time since he last showed an eye for that, and it'll be doubly difficult if they're not in Champions League.

Still, it's desperately sad to see a man who not only built the club up but also revolutionised the game in this country being treated with such disdain by a section of so-called fans.


007Dale
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Apr 11, 2017, 5:43 AM

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Suppose the key question is whether he can recruit top quality players with steel and determination in the summer. It's been a long time since he last showed an eye for that, and it'll be doubly difficult if they're not in Champions League.

Still, it's desperately sad to see a man who not only built the club up but also revolutionised the game in this country being treated with such disdain by a section of so-called fans.

Are the fans (who pay the highest price of any in the country to watch their team) not entitled to have their say? I think so.

As a Leicester fan, I believed it was time for Sir Claudio to go, but it doesn't mean I don't respect and appreciate the amazing things he did for us.

Several things would worry me if I was an Arsenal fan:
1. Why the indecision over a new deal for Wenger? And how can he say it's not impacting the players? The cynical could argue they're waiting for the season tickets to be renewed.
2. The recent signings have been poor. Wenger seems reluctant to spend money, is it because he doesn't trust himself anymore?
3. Player performances are shocking. It's often a sign they don't want to play for the manager (just like Leicester)
4. No one at the club seems to be Wenger's boss. Who will make the right decision if Wenger won't? And how can they be trusted to replace him when he does leave?
5. Why in gods name have they offered Ozil a new deal for £200k a week? He's s**t.


Isaac
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Apr 11, 2017, 6:40 AM

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Suppose the key question is whether he can recruit top quality players with steel and determination in the summer. It's been a long time since he last showed an eye for that, and it'll be doubly difficult if they're not in Champions League.

Still, it's desperately sad to see a man who not only built the club up but also revolutionised the game in this country being treated with such disdain by a section of so-called fans.


Why are they 'so called fans'? Are they not entitled to their opinion? I'm not sure Wenger has exactly revolutionised the game in this country either? Yes he was successful in his early days at Arsenal but the club have seriously under achieved for over a decade, how much longer should he get? The club seems to be run purely as a business with no ambition beyond CL qualification and they don't look like even achieving that this season, Wenger has been in a comfort zone for far too long and so have certain players. And why all this will he/won't he nonsense? If Wenger cannot make the decision himself then the club need to make it for him, he's like the boxer that's gone on far too long and needs to be protected from himself.


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jon b
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Apr 11, 2017, 6:46 AM

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I'd have thought a lot is riding on whether they qualify for the Champions League. If not, then he may be eased out.

His bosses won't want to boot him out, but if he won't let go and won't take a sinecure then……


PhilN
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Apr 11, 2017, 9:03 AM

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If Arsenal fans want rid of Wenger I'd gladly swap him for Zola!


Isaac
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Apr 11, 2017, 9:19 AM

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If Arsenal fans want rid of Wenger I'd gladly swap him for Zola!


Shades of Ranieri, a loveable Italian but sadly not up to the job!


paulh66
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Apr 11, 2017, 10:17 AM

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Suppose the key question is whether he can recruit top quality players with steel and determination in the summer. It's been a long time since he last showed an eye for that, and it'll be doubly difficult if they're not in Champions League.

Still, it's desperately sad to see a man who not only built the club up but also revolutionised the game in this country being treated with such disdain by a section of so-called fans.

Are the fans (who pay the highest price of any in the country to watch their team) not entitled to have their say? I think so.

As a Leicester fan, I believed it was time for Sir Claudio to go, but it doesn't mean I don't respect and appreciate the amazing things he did for us.


Yes, but (hopefully!) you weren't spouting bile in the bloke's direction and campaigning for his dismissal. It's one thing to believe someone's time is up, quite another how you display it. A small minority of these so-called fans clearly don't respect the guy or his achievements.


paulh66
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Apr 11, 2017, 10:20 AM

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If Arsenal fans want rid of Wenger I'd gladly swap him for Zola!


Shades of Ranieri, a loveable Italian but sadly not up to the job!


Quite possibly the most crass comparison of managerial ability ever!


Isaac
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Apr 11, 2017, 11:20 AM

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If Arsenal fans want rid of Wenger I'd gladly swap him for Zola!


Shades of Ranieri, a loveable Italian but sadly not up to the job!


Quite possibly the most crass comparison of managerial ability ever!


But I didn't mention the managerial abilities of either did I? Just the fact that both are loveable Italians who most neutrals would want to see doing well.

Have you grasped that now or shall I run through it again?

Oh and I nominate your posting for the most hypocritical, ever!

For you to accuse somebody of being crass............Mad


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paulh66
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"Not up to the job" you said. But that comment wasn't about managerial ability, as you now say... Crazy. Methinks you're on another wind up Mr Hunt, so carry on without me.

Back on topic, if Wenger does leave, might be something of a poison chalice for the new boss, replacing such a dominant figure within the club and probably not having the cache of Champions League to lure new signings. Can easily see a situation like United when Ferguson went - a couple of poor years while a big rebuild/transition takes place before being ready to start challenging again. A challenge indeed for whoever might be tempted to take that on.


Isaac
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Apr 11, 2017, 12:04 PM

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"Not up to the job" you said. But that comment wasn't about managerial ability, as you now say... Crazy. Methinks you're on another wind up Mr Hunt, so carry on without me.

Back on topic, if Wenger does leave, might be something of a poison chalice for the new boss, replacing such a dominant figure within the club and probably not having the cache of Champions League to lure new signings. Can easily see a situation like United when Ferguson went - a couple of poor years while a big rebuild/transition takes place before being ready to start challenging again. A challenge indeed for whoever might be tempted to take that on.


That 'joke' is getting a tad boring now if indeed it was ever funny in the first placeCrazy!

Anyway back on topic, Wenger has to go at some point just like Fergie. I suspect there will be no shortage of takers for the Arsenal job if the club show some ambition.


sandhurstbee
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Apr 11, 2017, 1:22 PM

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Tony Adams just taken over at Granada. Is this timing significant for the Arsenal job? Shocked



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HantsLondoner
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Apr 11, 2017, 3:31 PM

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Hope so ;-) Ar*se fans, be careful what you wish for!

Even as a Tottenham fan, I have a lot of admiration for Wenger, so I'm sad it's come to this for him.

IMO he should have become our manager when he came over here, rather than him going to our arch-rivals.
His style of play and philosophy would have suited us much better.
As it is we've let them get ahead of us, in most senses of the word, in the last 20 years.

At the moment I'm wondering how we're going to c*ck it up this year from this position, and finish below them. Three wins and a draw from the remaining seven games, even if they win all theirs. I expect we will though.

They could still manage to get into the CL.

When you make Walcott your captain, and have players like Ozil starting against a physical team like Crystal Palace, I think you are asking for trouble, though. Andros Townsend must have enjoyed himself last night, with his Tottenham connections :-)



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garethwrexy
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Apr 11, 2017, 7:23 PM

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Wenger a great boss but his time is up



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Richard Rundle
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Apr 11, 2017, 8:44 PM

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Does anyone think the next Arsenal manager would do any better than this team has, even in the last few seasons?

They're about the fourth or fifth biggest club in England, with the fourth or fifth biggest budget, and they're continually finishing in that sort of position or better.


007Dale
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Apr 11, 2017, 8:46 PM

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Ah, But the team with the fifteenth biggest budget won the league last season.


garethwrexy
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Apr 11, 2017, 9:40 PM

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Arsenal will get big name to fill the hot seat once wenger goes



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kirby knitters
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Will they go for a big name though? Wenger was unheard of by most when he took control and did a damn fine job for the first few years.


blackdouglas
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Apr 12, 2017, 11:59 AM

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Will they go for a big name though? Wenger was unheard of by most when he took control and did a damn fine job for the first few years.


I feel, unfortunately, Arsenal will have to go for a "big name" to replace Le God. The days of top Premier League clubs gambling on virtual unknowns are long gone.

I just hope we don't experience a "Moyes bounce" as Manyoo did when SAF left.



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Apr 12, 2017, 1:28 PM

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Will they go for a big name though? Wenger was unheard of by most when he took control and did a damn fine job for the first few years.


I feel, unfortunately, Arsenal will have to go for a "big name" to replace Le God. The days of top Premier League clubs gambling on virtual unknowns are long gone.

I just hope we don't experience a "Moyes bounce" as Manyoo did when SAF left.


Luis Enrique?



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Will they go for a big name though? Wenger was unheard of by most when he took control and did a damn fine job for the first few years.


I feel, unfortunately, Arsenal will have to go for a "big name" to replace Le God. The days of top Premier League clubs gambling on virtual unknowns are long gone.

I just hope we don't experience a "Moyes bounce" as Manyoo did when SAF left.


Luis Enrique?



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dottirofhod
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