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leohoenig
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From next season, there is no extra time in League cup ties
ABBA penalties have been scrapped, backed to ABAB

There will no longer be seeding in First and Second rounds
The first round remains regionalised North/South



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paulh66
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Can't quibble about any of that.

Wonder when the draw will be. Must be soon but I haven't seen a date yet.


Bantam Cymraeg
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In recent years it's been the day before the league fixtures are announced, which will be on 21st June this year.


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Jun 8, 2018, 6:21 PM

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In recent years it's been the day before the league fixtures are announced, which will be on 21st June this year.


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Jun 8, 2018, 7:15 PM

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With the ending of seeding in the first two rounds we might get to see a final that doesn't involved the usual big 5 (6 if you include Arsenal) teams in the final.

After last seasons fiasco with the draws maybe the EFL should ask the politicians working on Brexit to make the draws.



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Jun 8, 2018, 8:31 PM

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we might get to see a final that doesn't involved the usual big 5 (6 if you include Arsenal) teams in the final


Is that the big 5/6 that get accused of not taking it seriously Tongue


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Jun 8, 2018, 8:44 PM

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we might get to see a final that doesn't involved the usual big 5 (6 if you include Arsenal) teams in the final


Is that the big 5/6 that get accused of not taking it seriously Tongue


The very same.



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IAN S
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Jun 9, 2018, 8:33 PM

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Why have seeding at all? Just draw the bloody balls out, how hard can it be?



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Tykeoldboy
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Jun 9, 2018, 11:45 PM

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Why have seeding at all? Just draw the bloody balls out, how hard can it be?


Seeding was brought in so that lower EFL clubs, league 1 and league 2, got a chance of a big name in the draw so they could make some money early in the season.



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leohoenig
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Jun 9, 2018, 11:58 PM

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My team has always been unseeded. This has meant we have always drawn a team higher than ourselves in the (previous season's) table
This makes progress from Round 1 seem less likely than in an unseeded draw - but 7 out of 18 seems a reasonable return
I have seen all seven second round ties, and we have lost them all.
In the same period we have 11 FA Cup first round wins. Of course, it is possible to draw lower than our level here, with three non-league teams beaten at first round stage
From when we joined the league (1999) to 2013, we had not lost to non-league teams, but now have done so four seasons out of five, (the odd one being when we were non-League)



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stanley nick
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Jun 10, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Drawn Friday 15th june


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Drawn Friday 15th june


In Vietnam! At 10.45am UK time.


Leyther_Matt
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Jun 12, 2018, 11:29 AM

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Drawn Friday 15th june


In Vietnam! At 10.45am UK time.

Stick your house on Tranmere v Bolton.


paulh66
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Drawn Friday 15th june


In Vietnam! At 10.45am UK time.

Stick your house on Tranmere v Bolton.


The memories! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XY5Q1n3gE80 CoolWink
Tbh, anyone will do, just glad to avoid yet another tie with Peterborough as they're in the other section of the draw.

I see McManaman, Saha and Wise are being flown over for the draw which doesn't even appear to be on TV, instead available only via the EFL website and the competition's Twitter feed.


paulh66
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Jun 15, 2018, 2:32 PM

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Typical - a swift return to Prenton Park for two of Tranmere's Wembley heroes, Cook and Ginnelly, who recently signed for Walsall.

The full draw, ties to take place w/c August 13:

Rotherham United V Wigan Athletic
Tranmere Rovers V Walsall
Crewe Alexandra V Fleetwood Town
Scunthorpe United V Doncaster Rovers
Macclesfield Town V Bradford City
Grimsby Town V Rochdale
Sheffield United V Hull City
Nottingham Forest V Bury
Middlesbrough V Notts County
Sunderland V Sheffield Wednesday
Leeds United V Bolton Wanderers
Carlisle United V Blackburn Rovers
Mansfield Town V Accrington Stanley
Port Vale V Lincoln City
Preston North End V Morecambe
Oldham Athletic V Derby County
Shrewsbury Town V Burton Albion
Blackpool V Barnsley
Millwall V Gillingham
Portsmouth V AFC Wimbledon
Cheltenham Town V Colchester United
Yeovil Town V Aston Villa
Southend United V Brentford
Reading V Birmingham City
Wycombe Wanderers V Northampton Town
Swindon Town V Forest Green Rovers
Norwich City V Stevenage
Exeter City V Ipswich Town
Milton Keynes Dons V Charlton Athletic
West Bromwich Albion V Luton Town
Bristol Rovers V Crawley Town
Bristol City V Plymouth Argyle
Cambridge United V Newport County
Queens Park Rangers V Peterborough United
Oxford United V Coventry City


northstandexile
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Jun 16, 2018, 3:24 PM

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So what are the TV games

Yeovil vs Aston Villa ?


Tykeoldboy
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So what are the TV games

Yeovil vs Aston Villa ?


That won't be decided for a few weeks but Sunderland v Sheff Wed looks to be the tie of the round so not ideal for TV coverage.



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oxpete
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Jun 17, 2018, 7:37 PM

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I reckon West Brom v. Luton Town looks a good chance for an upset, should that be the sort of thing the telly people are after. Though I doubt there'll be a very big attendance for it...

I'll hopefully get the chance to get a new tick in the 92 done somewhere. At the moment, I fancy the idea of Macclesfield Town v. Bradford City, which should also be a decent match.


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FCUtdWill
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So what are the TV games

Yeovil vs Aston Villa ?


Correct, on the Tuesday, doesn't look like there'll be any live games on the Wednesday, but this fixture is on the Thursday (post from Tykeoldboy):


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That won't be decided for a few weeks but Sunderland v Sheff Wed looks to be the tie of the round so not ideal for TV coverage.




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Jun 21, 2018, 9:49 PM

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The TV games have been on the live football on tv website for a few days now.



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SB.
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Jun 26, 2018, 10:06 PM

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Does anybody know the dates of the rounds?


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It looks like there could be more changes to the League Cup next season. This seasons SF may have to be delayed because of possible FA Cup 4th round and PL fixtures, one of which, Newcastle v Man City on Jan 29 is a televised game and can not be moved (no I don't understand that either). The situation is this, The second-leg ties are scheduled to be played during the week beginning 21 January, the FA Cup 4th round is January 26/27 and both Tottenham & Man City have league games on Jan 20, so possible league Cup games on 22 isn't what they want, nor wold either want to play on Jan 24. Both SF could be played on the same night, but Sky might block that one.

This fixture congestion could fore the EFL to switch to one off semi finals from next season



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Couldn't Sky swap Wolves v Leicester and Fulham v Spurs then have Chelsea v Spurs on the Tuesday and Burton Albion v Manchester City on Wednesday?


007Dale
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Believe it or not, the draw for the 1st round of the 19/20 competition will be made from a London branch of Morrison’s.


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Believe it or not, the draw for the 1st round of the 19/20 competition will be made from a London branch of Morrison’s.

Collingdale branch on Thursday at 19:00 if anyone is in the area with nowt better to do Sly

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