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windydcfc
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Nov 25, 2018, 12:35 PM

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Can anyone clarify the standardised rules for me. I’m interested in relegation from step 5 & in particular the two league’s that have had teams resign after the start of the season. Am I correct that if teams resign mid-season, then those clubs are deemed last & relegated? What happens if clubs have resigned prior to the start of the season? Obviously this happened in the Northern League. I can’t quite remember if it happened in Hellenic league.
5.3 At Steps 2-5 the Club finishing in last place in the table at the end of the Regular Season will be relegated and not reprieved. Below Step 5 the Clubs to be reprieved will be decided at the sole discretion of the Committee.
5.5 Where a vacancy occurs within the NLS the following procedures will apply:-

End of the Playing Season

5.5.1 (a) Where a Club notifies its decision to resign from its League at the end of the Playing Season, then a vacancy is created on the date the notification of that decision is formally recorded by that League. Such resignation can only be withdrawn by the end of that Playing Season with the consent of the Board of that League.

(b) In all cases, that Club is treated as a relegated Club. The final table of that division is not affected.

(c) In cases where the vacancy is created after the end of the Playing Season but before the League’s AGM, the vacancy will be filled in accordance with Regulation 5.5.2 below.

5.5.2(d) Where a vacancy arises at Step 5 and below, the question of reprieves shall be dealt with at the sole discretion of the Committee.

Prior to the end of a Playing Season

5.5.3 (a) In cases where the vacancy is created prior to the end of the Playing Season, the vacancy will be filled by the best ranked Club in a relegation position at the end of the Regular Season, eligible of being reprieved in that same division. In the event of there being more vacancies than Clubs eligible to be reprieved, such vacancy or vacancies will be filled by Clubs eligible to be reprieved in the Competition’s other division(s) on a points per match ratio.

(b) Where, prior to the end of the Playing Season, a Club notifies its decision to resign from its League with immediate effect or where a Club is removed from the League for any other reason, then the playing record of that Club will be expunged and a vacancy is created on the date the resignation or removal is formally recorded by that League.

(c) In all such cases that Club is treated as a relegated Club and the vacancy will be filled in accordance with 5.5.3 (a) above.



Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


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so as team north and blyth both resigned from the northern league after the A G M in june 2018 but before the end of season 2018/19 season they should both be classed as relegated clubs. but will the F A see it that way.


windydcfc
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so as team north and blyth both resigned from the northern league after the A G M in june 2018 but before the end of season 2018/19 season they should both be classed as relegated clubs. but will the F A see it that way.



Will Team Northumbria be classed as starting the season & does that change anything? Also there’s the rule about league committee’s discretion. I’m now veering towards no teams being relegated from the NL. But the rules aren’t clear. I’m taking it that Blyth AFC will nominally be placed in last position.



Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


windydcfc
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A tweet from Ollie Bayliss: Potters Bar Town are desperately fundraising to avoid relegation from the IsthmianLeague Premier.

They need a new 100 seat stand & an extra 100 capacity covered area by March 31st.

Chairman Peter Waller told @TalkRoberto the work will cost £30,000.



Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


windydcfc
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You have Brackley Town Saints as being denied promotion. According to them, they are a separate entity from Brackley Town(as defined by the FA) & are expecting to be promoted if they win the league.



Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


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You have Brackley Town Saints as being denied promotion. According to them, they are a separate entity from Brackley Town(as defined by the FA) & are expecting to be promoted if they win the league.


While I believe the FA have accepted them as separate, someone should tell the Brackley Town website, which clearly shows them as a subsidary team



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Sarumio
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You have Brackley Town Saints as being denied promotion. According to them, they are a separate entity from Brackley Town(as defined by the FA) & are expecting to be promoted if they win the league.


While I believe the FA have accepted them as separate, someone should tell the Brackley Town website, which clearly shows them as a subsidary team


Quite.


Some people will believe and accept anything you tell them.

The Saints team has done some certain things, that tick some certain criteria that decrees them as being separate. That is it.

To me its kind of like divorcing your parents. Sure you can do it in theory, tick some boxes, meet some criteria – but it doesn’t make them any less your parents or you any less their child.


paulh66
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Extending and mixing the analogy, offspring aren't necessarily subservient to their parents but reserve teams are inherently subservient to the first team.

Interesting takeaway from windydcfc's post that Saints themselves believe they're sufficiently separate to be eligible for promotion, which would suggest the NLS Committee's view will likely be compatible with the more detailed criteria set out in the FA Cup rules about connections with other clubs (obviously one would expect that to be the case but you can never be completely sure with the FA!) These rules are matters of substance which focus on the underlying control of the club, not simply boxes being ticked, but if you're suggesting the FA have been hoodwinked it'd be interesting to know in what respect exactly. Or, going back to the analogy, explain in what way Saints are, in reality, subservient to Town.

To the extent I'd ever thought about it, I suppose my gut feel, like yours, was always that there was too close a connection but digging into the facts suggests otherwise. So far, anyway.


Sarumio
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Yes, we accept they cannot operate in the same way as a usual reserve side does. And thus technically they aren’t a reserve side. That’s not really being debated.

What’s being brought into question is their existing link to Brackley Town, with whom they share a name, nickname, playing colours, club badge, ground and even a website!!

Brackley Town Saints may think they are separate, but Brackley Town are clearly of a different belief and giving the entirely opposite impression.

And so with all that in mind, whilst they cannot be considered a true reserve side, it would appear tnat Brackley Town as a parent organisation if you like are operating two distinct clubs, one in the National League North and one in the Hellenic League.

Their links to each other in that sense (as opposed to any link in registration and player movement) is undeniable.

Can these two clubs (well, teams as in my opinion as they both belong to the same club) play in the same division for example, with threatening to bring the competition into disrepute?

Example scenario: both end up in the Southern League Premier (Central) in a couple of years’ time through natural promotion and relegation. The Saints team are already relegated and are scheduled to play Brackley Town on the last day of the season, with Brackley Town needing a win to stay up. Are we really to believe that there wouldn’t be some directive within the club for the Saints to throw the game (subtly) in order to save at least one of the pair from relegation? Or, similarly, Saints team needing a win against one of Brackley Town’s relegation rivals in order to secure safety for the latter?

Or even vice versa.

These two clubs remain intrinsically linked and so the Saints team should not be considered a separate entity, should not play in the FA Cup and should not be allowed promotion to Step 4 in my opinion.


paulh66
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Yes, it's the nature of the existing links that's front and centre of this.

Assuming, then, you have no evidence that the club has breached FA Cup rules regarding dual interests in clubs, then you have no basis to claim that Brackley Town "are clearly of a different belief" (to Saints' belief that they're sufficiently separate). Yes, there's a perception because of the shared website etc but, as far as we know, that's all it is - a perception rather than anything more substantial.

Also, your hypothetical example about "some directive within the club to throw a game" etc would be very far-fetched if the club is indeed compliant with those FA Cup rules - because the whole point of the rules is to prevent exactly those types of situation. So again, unless there's a loophole in how those rules have been designed, or unless the club isn't actually compliant with them, then how can any such "directive within the club" be issued or carry weight? Of course you could still be left with a situation where, using your example, Saints went into a game with Town's destiny in their own hands but, given what I've just explained, it's hard to see how that would be any different in substance to any other club which goes into a game with the destiny of, say, a near neighbour or 'their mates' at another club in their hands - a situation which isn't that unusual and can itself arouse suspicion but can't really be legislated against.

As an aside, in a past discussion a few months ago on this I recall a reference to Ilkeston's absence from the FA Cup, the suggestion being that they perhaps weren't eligible because of their owner's links to Notts County. If that was indeed the reason, then it's an interesting comparison/contrast to the Brackley scenario in terms of substance versus perception.


(This post was edited by paulh66 on Nov 29, 2018, 11:00 AM)


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Yes, it's the nature of the existing links that's front and centre of this.

Assuming, then, you have no evidence that the club has breached FA Cup rules regarding dual interests in clubs, then you have no basis to claim that Brackley Town "are clearly of a different belief" (to Saints' belief that they're sufficiently separate). Yes, there's a perception because of the shared website etc but, as far as we know, that's all it is - a perception rather than anything more substantial.

Also, your hypothetical example about "some directive within the club to throw a game" etc would be very far-fetched if the club is indeed compliant with those FA Cup rules - because the whole point of the rules is to prevent exactly those types of situation. So again, unless there's a loophole in how those rules have been designed, or unless the club isn't actually compliant with them, then how can any such "directive within the club" be issued or carry weight? Of course you could still be left with a situation where, using your example, Saints went into a game with Town's destiny in their own hands but, given what I've just explained, it's hard to see how that would be any different in substance to any other club which goes into a game with the destiny of, say, a near neighbour or 'their mates' at another club in their hands - a situation which isn't that unusual and can itself arouse suspicion but can't really be legislated against.

As an aside, in a past discussion a few months ago on this I recall a reference to Ilkeston's absence from the FA Cup, the suggestion being that they perhaps weren't eligible because of their owner's links to Notts County. If that was indeed the reason, then it's an interesting comparison/contrast to the Brackley scenario in terms of substance versus perception.

Ilkeston and Notts have the same chairman.

Even if they didn't, Ilkeston didn't play in the Vase last season so couldn't enter the FA Cup regardless



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Ah OK, cheers. Be interesting to see if/how Ilkeston are accepted into the Cup next season then, especially as their ownership model didn't prevent them from being allowed up to step 5 (i.e. higher than connected clubs are allowed under the NLS Regulations).


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Yes but Ilkeston Town are not called Notts County Magpies.

Nor do Notts County have a section on their official websote devoted to Ilkeston Town, or listing them as one of the club's teams.


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Irrelevant, in terms of substance (as opposed, perhaps, to perception). But if you wish to remain needlessly perplexed by the Brackley situation just because of a website then I'll leave you to it.


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Irrelevant, in terms of substance (as opposed, perhaps, to perception). But if you wish to remain needlessly perplexed by the Brackley situation just because of a website then so be it.



Of course its not irrelevant.

As has been said over and over again it’s their entire identity – well lack of individual identity – their name, their ground, their club badge, their playing colours, their website….. everything that gives clubs their individual identity – but in their case its just Brackley Town’s everything with the nickname of Brackley Town (SAINTS) appended to the end!

Brackley Town’s website is indicative of the link – and so cannot be just brushed under the carpet as irrelevant, why else would Brackley Town FC have a section on their website dedicated to another club that merely ground shares with them?

Come on....


paulh66
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Quite possibly my last post on this (..maybe)
The whole point of the current restrictions in place in the NLS and FA Cup re connected clubs is to preserve integrity of competition - which at the end of the day is at the heart of whether Saints and clubs like them should be allowed up.
You're jumping to conclusions based on a website while still disregarding the club's apparent compliance with the regulations in place, yet these regulations are far more substantive in terms of preserving the integrity of completion than a perception (or misperception) created by a website.
I'd agree you've identified an issue which raises a question mark. I don't know the answer to that question, but all the evidence suggests the club has answered it satisfactorily and is therefore not in a position to compromise the integrity of competition any more than any other club. Unless and until anything else comes to light, that's it in a nutshell.


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Down my neck of the woods the Middlesex League currently has a top 3 of St. Panteleimon, Pitshanger Dynamo and PFC Victoria, all groundsharing at Step 5 and above clubs.
In the Surrey Elite Westside are top who share at AFC Croydon Athletic at Step 5.
So I'm guessing that all of these have promotion to Step 6 as an aim for the not too distant future.



Westside held a positive meeting last night & are apply for promotion. They said that they just need to keep the performances up now.



Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


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Irrelevant, in terms of substance (as opposed, perhaps, to perception). But if you wish to remain needlessly perplexed by the Brackley situation just because of a website then so be it.



Of course its not irrelevant.

As has been said over and over again it’s their entire identity – well lack of individual identity – their name, their ground, their club badge, their playing colours, their website….. everything that gives clubs their individual identity – but in their case its just Brackley Town’s everything with the nickname of Brackley Town (SAINTS) appended to the end!

Brackley Town’s website is indicative of the link – and so cannot be just brushed under the carpet as irrelevant, why else would Brackley Town FC have a section on their website dedicated to another club that merely ground shares with them?

Come on....


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Which 2 clubs would you put in the Central after Bishop’s Stortford, Harlow Town and Brightlingea Regent?


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windydcfc
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Down my neck of the woods the Middlesex League currently has a top 3 of St. Panteleimon, Pitshanger Dynamo and PFC Victoria, all groundsharing at Step 5 and above clubs.
In the Surrey Elite Westside are top who share at AFC Croydon Athletic at Step 5.
So I'm guessing that all of these have promotion to Step 6 as an aim for the not too distant future.



Westside held a positive meeting last night & are apply for promotion. They said that they just need to keep the performances up now.



AFC Cubo are aiming for promotion.



Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


borninchesham
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I would think that Beaconsfield woukld be more likely than Brightlingsea as the Siouth Bucks clubs are a natural fit

However, I would think that Chesham will be first on the list after they win their fight against relegation!


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What's gone wrong at Chesham this year? Two good FA Cup runs in 2015 and 2016 ought to have helped the finances.


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What's gone wrong at Chesham this year? Two good FA Cup runs in 2015 and 2016 ought to have helped the finances.
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According to the club directors/owners the cost of upkeep of The Meadow is exceedingly expensive. However, they do insist that the playing budget hasn't been decreased. They have also stated that relegation is not an option!

To my mind, viewing from afar, I think the management/playing staff became stale. When Andy Leese was replaced at the start of last season, they kept the appointment in-house & it just hadn't worked. The recovery in the second half of last season covered over the cracks that needed addressing & led to the absymal start to this campaign, culminating in the 7-0 defeat at Beaconsfield.
Since the arrival of James Duncan & Michael Murray from Potters Bar, the playing staff & performances have improved considerably. I would expect that by the start of 2019, Chesham will be clear of the relegation places & moving towards mid-table. I certainly hope that is the case!
Provided they are still in the Premier division, I'm sure the club would be quite happy with a move to the Central Division as that would reduce travelling costs. Lowestoft & Leiston would be the only two "out of the way" visits as compared to the numerous trips "down west" this season!



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Down my neck of the woods the Middlesex League currently has a top 3 of St. Panteleimon, Pitshanger Dynamo and PFC Victoria, all groundsharing at Step 5 and above clubs.
In the Surrey Elite Westside are top who share at AFC Croydon Athletic at Step 5.
So I'm guessing that all of these have promotion to Step 6 as an aim for the not too distant future.



PFC Vics are applying & they expect the other two to apply

St Panteleimon will be applying



Foley Meir from the Staffs Senior will be applying



Ilkley Town from the WYL, have been planning to apply for promotion. They are having an inspection in the next couple of weeks & will decide then if they can complete the works in time.



Ilkley Town have had the inspection from the NCEL. They need to upgrade their changing facilities & some further upgrades to their ground. They will need to raise a substantial amount of money & will decide soon if they apply this season or next.



Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


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This statement has appeared upon the NWCFL website concerning lateral transfers and Step 6 entry. Doesn't appear to say anything too radical, but it might be of interest to somebody:


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The FA has written to all leagues in the National League System, asking them to remind all clubs of the possibility of lateral movement between leagues at the end of the current season.

The letter was sent to all leagues at Steps 2 to 7, and reinforces the possibility of lateral movements and states that while it is too early to be more specific at this stage, the advance warning is being given to all clubs, to advise that this could occur.

A notice has also been issued for New Clubs and teams wishing to enter the System above Step 7, as opposed to clubs wishing to be promoted from Step 7 to 6.

Usually a club can only enter the NLS at Step 7. However, a League may seek approval from the Committee to receive a club or team not currently in membership of a League within the NLS provided that there is:

(a) exceptional circumstances

(b) a vacancy within its constitution

(c) the club meets the entry criteria and

(d) promotion and relegation issues have been satisfied.

The deadline for these applications to be received by the FA has now changed to 1st February in each season and it is a League that must apply for a Club to be entered in to their competition, not the Club itself.

However, the FA have emphasised that a club will only be considered for allocation to a league or division after normal promotion and relegation has been applied, and if a vacancy exists in that particular division.

Any decision shall only be capable of Appeal to The Association by the affected League.


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