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Missing Welsh based Western League results from 1920/21

 



Steve S
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Hi All

I wonder if anyone, especially our Welsh friends, would be able to supply any of the following results from the Western League of 1920/21. They are required to help build a record of all the Western League results so that the many wrong league tables can be rebuilt. Many thanks for any help.


Ton Pentre v Bristol Rovers (played 4.4.1921)
Cardiff Corinthians v Mid Rhondda
Cardiff Corinthians v Ton Pentre
Mid Rhondda v Ton Pentre
Pontypridd v Ton Pentre
Swansea Town Res v Cardiff Corinthians
Swansea Town Res v Cardiff City Res
Swansea Town Res v Mid Rhondda
Swansea Town Res v Ton Pentre
Swansea Town Res v Welton Rovers
Ton Pentre v Abertillery Town
Ton Pentre v Pontypridd
Ton Pentre v Swansea Town Res


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Ton Pentre v Bristol Rovers (played 4.4.1921) 5-0

Ton Pentre 1-0 Pontypridd 3/1/21

Pontypridd 3-0 Ton Pentre 10/1/21

Swansea T Res 4-1 Ton Pentre 27/1/21


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Steve S
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Thank you Paul, that's a great start, thanks for taking the trouble to reply.


Steve


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Swansea T Res 5-0 Cardiff Corries 5/5/21
Cardiff Corries 3-0 Mid-Rhondda 18/12/20
Swansea Town Res 4-0 Mid Rhondda 7/10/20
Swansea Town Res 3-2 Welton Rovers 29/1/21


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I can confirm 4.4.1921 - Ton Pentre 5 Bristol Rovers 0.


Steve S
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Many thanks for the results, very much appreciated as I know they've been looking for them for a long, long time !


Steve


John Hansford
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My list of missing details for Western League Season 1920/21 is now as follow;

Swansea Town 3 Barry 0 , Date Required
Cardiff Corinthians v Ton Pentre
Swansea Town Res v Cardiff City Res
Swansea Town Res v Welton Rovers
Ton Pentre v Abertillery Town
Ton Pentre v Swansea Town Res
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Many thanks
John





John Hansford


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Ton Pentre v Abertillery Town - 5-0 on Thurs 07 Oct 1920


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Swansea Town Res v Welton Rovers 3-2 - Sat 29 Jan 1921


John Hansford
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Hi Richard,
Thank you for the Ton Pentre Score v Abertillery which makes my analysis for Ton Pentre correct to 22 Jan
I have a result of Abertillery 2 Welton 0, 18 Dec 1920 but table analysis suggests this was 2-2???
The match on 29 Jan was Welton 2 Swansea 3, played at Welton Rovers
From my visit to a library in Cardiff I have a date of 03 May for the Cardiff Corinthians v Ton Pentre fixture
I do know from Swindon that their Goals For and Against are both 1 out in the final table - which wasn't that bad back then!
Best Wishes
John



John Hansford


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Hi John

Abertillery v Welton Rovers 18 Dec 1920 - The Weston Daily Press reports a score of 2-0, BUT the Western Mail has just the score [no report] 2-2.

Welton Rovers v Swansea Town Res 29 Jan 1920 - two papers give the score with Swansea first, indicating that they were the home side, but the Western Mail has a report stating that it was played at Midsomer Norton.

Cardiff Corries v Ton Pentre - drawn a blank on that one.

Richard


John Hansford
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That's brilliant, thank you Richard



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I received an automated mail yesterday saying that someone had kindly posted that Swansea beat Barry 3-0 on 25 Dec 1920. Thank you very much as I was missing that date.
I am also short of the date of the return fixture which Barry won 2-0.
These were the only results I had but without the dates and I neglected to put these in with my request for information.
Therefore my amended list of 'wants' is;

Date Req Barry Res 2 Swansea Town Res 0
03 May 21 Cardiff Corinthians v Ton Pentre
Swansea Town Res v Cardiff City Res
Swansea Town Res v Welton Rovers
Ton Pentre v Swansea Town Res




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John

Two more results, both reported in the Western Mail the following day -

Swansea Town Res 4-0 Cardiff City Res Thurs 04 Nov 1920
Swansea Town Res 5-0 Welton Rovers Thurs 11 Nov 1920


John Hansford
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Fantastic Richard, thank you



John Hansford

 
 


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