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007Dale
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Esther McVey (unsurprisingly) decides to back Boris.


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This is the same newspaper that predicted the tories would win 400 seats at the 2017 election, with a majority of 150. How did that turn out?


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007Dale
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Esther McVey (unsurprisingly) decides to back Boris.


Matt Hancock clearly harbours hopes of remaining as health secretary; heís just come out in support of Boris.


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I hope Boris Johnson becomes the next Tory leader. Surely the public are not so dumb that they would vote Conservative led by Johnson at the next general election, or are they?



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Much the same was said about Trump until they saw the calbre of his opponent. Deja vu.


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I see Borisís private life is starting seep out & the fact that he admits to having 4 kids. But a court case a few years ago proved he had a 5th in a extra marital affair. But thereís a 6th with another woman & heís refusing to talk about it. Has he got the moral compass to be the prime minister?


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I see Borisís private life is starting seep out & the fact that he admits to having 4 kids. But a court case a few years ago proved he had a 5th in a extra marital affair. But thereís a 6th with another woman & heís refusing to talk about it. Has he got the moral compass to be the prime minister?


We seem to be moving away from a world where personal life has an impact on your political career.

The rule seems to be, do what you like, preferably not illegal, but just DONíT lie about it!


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For those that read Private Eye the 'Classic Comedy Sketch Rediscovered' on p94 had me in stitches and just about sums up the Tory leadership contest.
For those that don't it has the four Yorshiremen from Monty Python discussing Brexit. Starts off with us leaving on Oct 31st but the EU paying us £39 billion and progresses through to us executing the Royal family, siezing control of the army and t'utilities and nuking Paris and Berlin so we get a good trade deal.
"and if you don't do that you'll end up with a Corbyn Government in..... but you tell the young people that, they won't believe you"


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I see Borisís private life is starting seep out & the fact that he admits to having 4 kids. But a court case a few years ago proved he had a 5th in a extra marital affair. But thereís a 6th with another woman & heís refusing to talk about it. Has he got the moral compass to be the prime minister?


We seem to be moving away from a world where personal life has an impact on your political career.

The rule seems to be, do what you like, preferably not illegal, but just DONíT lie about it!



Iím sure if it was Corbynís personal life, heíd have been hung out to dry by the right wing press. But because Boris is part of that right wing press & this wonít get the same headlines. I wonder how many times Boris has failed to keep it in his trousers & with how many women?


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I see Borisís private life is starting seep out & the fact that he admits to having 4 kids. But a court case a few years ago proved he had a 5th in a extra marital affair. But thereís a 6th with another woman & heís refusing to talk about it. Has he got the moral compass to be the prime minister?


We seem to be moving away from a world where personal life has an impact on your political career.

The rule seems to be, do what you like, preferably not illegal, but just DONíT lie about it!

How ironic. As we leave the EU we adopt the French attitude towards privacy.


007Dale
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Next Conservative Leader will be Male

All 313 Tory MPs voted,
Boris Johnson - 114
Jeremy Hunt - 43
Michael Gove - 37
Dominic Raab - 27
Sajid Javid - 23
Matt Hancock - 20
Rory Stewart - 19
----------------------- Elimination line

Andrea Leadsom - 11
Mark Harper - 10
Esther McVey - 9


Boris Johnson - 126 (+12)
Jeremy Hunt - 46 (+3)
Michael Gove - 41 (+4)
Rory Stewart - 37 (+18)
Sajid Javid - 33 (+10)
Dominic Raab - 30 (+3) Eliminated.

Interesting that enough people voted to get Sajid and Rory across the line, wouldnít be surprised to see that change tomorrow.

One assumes a large chunk of Raab supporters will head to Boris.


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My goodness that was just awful tonight wasn't it.
Johnson had clearly been coached to memorise a handful of short speeches on topics likely to come up and ploughed through them despite interruptions along the lines of 'can you answer the question' and 'we know all that but that isn't the question'
Gove is just a horrible weasel, he apparently is the only one with a plan and that plan appears to be to knock Corbyn at every opportunity. I can't help but think of Baldrick every time he mentions his 'plan'.

Stewart thinking being sensible is a vote winner in the Tory environment that he lives in is quite obviously foolish. He is clearly in the wrong party.
Hunt is just another grey man, John Major Mark 2. He is careful to say nothing much at all, it's obvious this all just an interview for a job in Johnsons cabinet for him.
Javid... well I can't remember anything he said, he'll be out tomorrow anyway.
Never mind Brexit, these people have been in Government for 10 years and have overseen and voted for the policies that has left the country in the state it is in. It's a bit late now to believe they have the will to want to put it right.


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Well, What did you expect to happen in a debate between four men denying reality & one acknowledging the reality his own partyís membership furiously reject? Facts left the building three years ago.



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Reading this thread I take it there are very few forum members in a position to vote for the next PM... One here. Wink


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I thought the BBC picked the questions to deliberately try and get at Boris.

Heís bound to have baggage, London Mayor for eight years, Foreign Secretary for two, whereas politically what has the likes of Rory Stewart done?

I donít have a vote, but if I did, it would be Boris every day of the week.


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For those that read Private Eye the 'Classic Comedy Sketch Rediscovered' on p94 had me in stitches and just about sums up the Tory leadership contest.
For those that don't it has the four Yorshiremen from Monty Python discussing Brexit. Starts off with us leaving on Oct 31st but the EU paying us £39 billion and progresses through to us executing the Royal family, siezing control of the army and t'utilities and nuking Paris and Berlin so we get a good trade deal.
"and if you don't do that you'll end up with a Corbyn Government in..... but you tell the young people that, they won't believe you"


Monty Python would have done it better!


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I see Borisís private life is starting seep out & the fact that he admits to having 4 kids. But a court case a few years ago proved he had a 5th in a extra marital affair. But thereís a 6th with another woman & heís refusing to talk about it. Has he got the moral compass to be the prime minister?


Obviously the ladies like him.

I don't think it matters how many 'ladies' he's taken around the back of the bike sheds.

Surely, in 2019, that is completely irrelevant to his political persona.

We've al led colourful lives in one way or another, I'm sure!


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It wouldn't surprise me if Rory Stewart the candidate who appears to want to throw us over the cliff the least out of all the others, might get squeezed out by tactical voting.
Johnson is certain for the final 2, so expect some of Johnsons supporters to go for Javid this time.



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007Dale
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I donít think Rory did particularly well yesterday. Whilst itís Ok to say that heís not promising more spending or tax cuts, he didnít give us a sense of what his priorities are if there is any money left.

So weíre really clear what Boris will do on taxes (like it or not), when / if he can afford it.

Jeremy Hunt said heíd increase the threshold for NI.

One of the others mentioned lowering the basic rate of tax.

At some point, people need to know what you stand for, even if you canít promise it, depending on economic circumstances

And donít get me started on him trying to get Mayís Brexit deal through a fourth time....


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I thought the BBC picked the questions to deliberately try and get at Boris.

Heís bound to have baggage, London Mayor for eight years, Foreign Secretary for two, whereas politically what has the likes of Rory Stewart done?

I donít have a vote, but if I did, it would be Boris every day of the week.


And as if to prove the point, in an effort to embarrass Boris and call him a racist, the BBC got a racist to ask the question. That man has been sacked this morning as anti-semetic tweets emerge.


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Reading this thread I take it there are very few forum members in a position to vote for the next PM... One here. Wink


And, according to Post 9 on this thread, it's Boris for you. Cool

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Obviously the ladies like him.

I don't think it matters how many 'ladies' he's taken around the back of the bike sheds.

Surely, in 2019, that is completely irrelevant to his political persona.

We've al led colourful lives in one way or another, I'm sure!


I don't expect any of us are all that interested in Johnson's love life.

I suppose the only relevance is that he has a track record of letting down and deceiving even those closest to him.

It reminds me of something David Niven said about his friend Errol Flynn. He told how "You always knew where you stood with Errol. He would always let you down".

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Jonathan Pie did a great spoof news item on the Tory leadership race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hrTK-OWYIs

Contains bad language


These days, when any politician comes on screen, so do I. Frown

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Next Conservative Leader will be Male

All 313 Tory MPs voted,
Boris Johnson - 114
Jeremy Hunt - 43
Michael Gove - 37
Dominic Raab - 27
Sajid Javid - 23
Matt Hancock - 20
Rory Stewart - 19
----------------------- Elimination line

Andrea Leadsom - 11
Mark Harper - 10
Esther McVey - 9


Boris Johnson - 126 (+12)
Jeremy Hunt - 46 (+3)
Michael Gove - 41 (+4)
Rory Stewart - 37 (+18)
Sajid Javid - 33 (+10)
Dominic Raab - 30 (+3) Eliminated.

Interesting that enough people voted to get Sajid and Rory across the line, wouldnít be surprised to see that change tomorrow.

One assumes a large chunk of Raab supporters will head to Boris.


Boris Johnson - 143 (up 17)
Jeremy Hunt - 54 (up 8)
Michael Gove - 51 (up 10)
Sajid Javid - 38 (up 5)
Rory Stewart - 27 (down 10) - Eliminated

After a very poor showing at the debate yesterday, Rory Stewart loses 10 votes. Hopes of a cabinet position fade.


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Boris Johnson - 143 (up 17)
Jeremy Hunt - 54 (up 8)
Michael Gove - 51 (up 10)
Sajid Javid - 38 (up 5)
Rory Stewart - 27 (down 10) - Eliminated

After a very poor showing at the debate yesterday, Rory Stewart loses 10 votes. Hopes of a cabinet position fade.


He Would never serve under Johnson.
He is obviously too good for the Tory party!



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