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LeedsPhil
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CLQ3 draw (matches 6/7 August & 13 August)

CFR Cluj (ROU) 3.500 / Maccabi Tel-Aviv (ISR) 16.000 v Celtic (SCO) 31.000 / Nõmme Kalju (EST) 3.500
Sutjeska Niksic (MNE) 3.000 / APOEL Nicosia (CYP) 25.500 v Dundalk (IRL) 7.000 / Qarabaš (AZE) 22.000
Crvena Zvezda [Red Star Belgrade] (SRB) 16.750 / HJK Helsinki (FIN) 9.000 v The New Saints (WAL) 6.000 / Kųbenhavn (DEN) 31.000



ELQ3 draw (matches 8 August & 15 August)

CL rejects’ path
loser of CLQ2 Sutjeska Niksic (MNE) 3.000 / APOEL Nicosia (CYP) 25.500 v HB Tórshavn (FRO) 1.500 / Linfield (NIR) 2.250
Valur Reykjavķk (ISL) 2.750 / Ludogorets Razgrad (BUL) 27.000 v loser of CLQ2 The New Saints (WAL) 6.000 / FC Kųbenhavn (DEN) 31.000
Shkėndija Tetovo (MKD) 6.000 / F91 Dudelange (LUX) 6.250 v loser of CLQ2 Celtic (SCO) 31.000 / Nõmme Kalju (EST) 3.500
Slovan Bratislava (SVK) 6.000 / Feronikeli (KOS) 0.500 v loser of CLQ2 Dundalk (IRL) 7.000 / Qarabaš (AZE) 22.000

Proper path
Austria Wien (AUT) 8.000 v Shamrock Rovers (IRL) 2.250 / Apollon Limassol (CYP) 12.000
Pyunik Yerevan (ARM) 3.750 / FK Jablonec (CZE) 5.735 v Wolverhampton Wanderers (ENG) 17.092 / Crusaders (NIR) 4.250
FC Midtjylland (DEN) 14.000 v Rangers (SCO) 5.250 / Progrčs Niederkorn (LUX) 2.750
NK Rijeka (CRO) 13.500 v Chikhura Sachkhere (GEO) 3.000 / Aberdeen (SCO) 5.500
Connah's Quay Nomads (WAL) 1.750 / FK Partizan Belgrade (SRB) 18.000 v Yeni Malatyaspor (TUR) 6.920 / Olimpija Ljubljana (SVN) 3.750


Brits/Irish in red, seeds in bold.


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Next batch.
CL 2Q 1st legs
23 July
The New Saints 0 Copenhagen 2
24 July
Celtic 5 Nomme Kalju 0Dundalk 1 Qarabag 1
EL 2Q 1st legs
23 July
HB Torshavn 2 Linfield 2
25 July
Chikhura Sachkhere 1 Aberdeen 1Connah's Quay Nomads 0 Partizan Belgrade 1Rangers 2 Progres Niederkorn 0Shamrock Rovers 2 Apollon Limassol 1Wolves 2 Crusaders 0



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The reason Feronikeli and other Kosovo clubs have minimal UEFA r it is not easy to ascertain which clubs in the then Serbian top flight were in what is now Kosovo. However I can scarcely believe that none did: being all part of the former Yugoslavia.


On the contrary, it is very easy to find out that FC Prishtina and FK Trepca played in the Yugoslav top league. The former are in the Kosovo premier, the latter in a Serb regional league as they came from the Serb quarter of Mitrovica. After Kosovo's split, a new club, KF Trepca play in the second tier in Kosovo having taken over the former ground of the Serb club.
No sign of Feronikeli which was founded in 1974 and thus have no top flight history and no European experience until this season thus they will inevitably have a low ranking. They may well improve as time goes on but don't be fooled by the relative strength of the Kosovo national team who are almost exclusively made up of players from outside the domestic league.
I therefore don't think it was too much of a shock that they were eliminated by TNS who in the last five European seasons (to date) have won 8, drawn 4 and lost 8 European games


It is not that simple, because of the political situation and and the political and military conflict with Serbia. Most of Kosovo is ethnically Albanian so even though Kosovo was not admitted till 2 years ago the majority of the Kosovo clubs boycotted the Serbian League for political reasons, not unconnected with the Serbian war ciminal Slobodan Milesovicz. Pristina and Trepca were exceptions: Trepca being as you say ethnically Serb, Pristina being the capital mainly ethnically Albanian yet with a substantial Serb minority there. Trepca now playing in Serbian League is faintly analagous to Derry City playing in the League of Ireland.

So Kosovo clubs cannot be judged by the normal yardstick and will inevitably have coefficients substantially below their real worth until they can acquire a rating based on five years participation.

As for prior, I have yet to find a full playing record of Feronikeli from foundation to present day anywhere at all. Perhaps if anyone has they can send me the link.



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CL Q2 L2
Tue 30 July

Nomme Kalju (EST) 3.500 0-2 Celtic 31.000, agg 0-7
Wed 31 July
FC Kobenhavn (DEN) 31.000 1-0 TNS 6.000, agg 3-0
Qarabag Agdam (AZE) 22.000 3-0 Dundalk 7.000, agg 4-1

EL Q2 L2
Thu 1 Aug

Linfield 2.250 1-0 HB Torshavn (FAR) 1.500, agg 3-2
Aberdeen 5.500 5-0 FC Chikhura Sachkhere (GEO) 3.000, agg 6-1
FK Partizan Belgrade (SRB) 18.000 3-0 Connay's Quay Nomads 1.750, agg 4-0
Apollon Limassol (CYP) 12.000 3-1 Shamrock Rovers 2.250, agg 4-3
Crusaders 4.250 1-4 Wolves 17.092, agg 1-6
Progres Niederkorn (LUX) 2.750 0-0 Rangers 5.250, agg 0-2


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CLQ3 (matches 6/7 August & 13 August)

CFR Cluj (ROU) 3.500 v Celtic (SCO) 31.000 Wed 7 + Tue 13





ELQ3 (matches 8 August & 15 August)

CL rejects’ path
Sutjeska Niksic (MNE) 3.000 v Linfield (NIR) 2.250
Ludogorets Razgrad (BUL) 27.000 v The New Saints (WAL) 6.000

Slovan Bratislava (SVK) 6.000 v Dundalk (IRL) 7.000 Wed 7 + Tue 13

Proper path
Pyunik Yerevan (ARM) 3.750 v Wolverhampton Wanderers (ENG) 17.092
FC Midtjylland (DEN) 14.000 v Rangers (SCO) 5.250
NK Rijeka (CRO) 13.500 v Aberdeen (SCO) 5.500


Brits/Irish in red, seeds in bold.


Draw for Q4 will be made Monday 5 Aug, before any of the Q3 L1s.


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TNS's home leg will be played at Wrexham.


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There were considerably more Killie fans cheering on CQN in Belgrade than there were Nomads fans.

The perils of booking your Ryanair flights before the previous tie is completed


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There were considerably more Killie fans cheering on CQN in Belgrade than there were Nomads fans.

The perils of booking your Ryanair flights before the previous tie is completed


Good some of them made it. As gleefully pointed out on Pie & Bovril shortly after Nomads' victory, there'd been a thread on the Killie fans' forum with dozens of chicken-counters posting their travel plans for Belgrade over the preceding month. The idea of being KO'd by Nomads simply didn't occur to them. Then, on page 18, the mood changed..


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Thanks to their aggregate win against Lincoln Red Imps TNS have now picked up 1 million and 80 thousand euros this season.

Northern Ireland are now in the bottom 4 and will only have 2 EL places in 2 years time 20-21 while the champions play in the CL preliminary round with San Marino Andorra and Kosovo.


But it will be just the one season with a reduced Europa League quota:
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...tjeska-38369111.html


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Magnificent performance from Linfield tonight, and NI will soon be back to four places.

Here's hoping we can finish the job in Belfast? I quite fancy a trip to Cyprus, although that probably would be a step too far. Still, we've exceeded my expectations already.


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Although the Belfast Telegraph newspaper article is basically correct my understanding is country 55 increases from 2 to 3 and 51 decreases from 4 to 3. This I assume is from 21-22 and is shown on the UEFA site after their last meeting.
I would assume Northern Ireland could pick up points from the last Europa League Preliminary Round and CL Preliminary Round
The CL could even be played in Belfast.




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Could be very interesting if Rangers morons meet up with Legia's ultras.

No problems in Gib but now a reality.


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What a result for Linfield! Actually gutted at conceding the late penalty, but who I am kidding? I would have bitten your hand off for even a draw before kick off.


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What a result for Linfield! Actually gutted at conceding the late penalty, but who I am kidding? I would have bitten your hand off for even a draw before kick off.

Ranked higher than Milan are Qarabag FK apparently so yes a stunner. What was the crowd? Looked on the Linfield site to no avail.


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Probably about 5,000, maybe slightly more. We are punching well above our weight. No doubt we'll get pumped in Baku, but I can dream for another week.


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Prize money not on the same planet as the CL but whatever it is will doubtless come in handy though next week will not be a cheap one for the clubs or any fans that make the trip. Good luck.


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Just the small matter of 5,500kn each way. I did think about it but getting time off work is nigh on impossible at present.
Here's to the group stages Wink


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Beat the number of fans that Wolves took to Yerevan (48) a couple of weeks ago and it will be some achievement. £1 to get in and £1000 for flights etc.


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No chance. IO checked today and it was £884, but I would need four days off work. I wish we could draw TNS one year, just for a simple, and winnable trip.


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Rangers have become the first Scottish club to have a partial ground closure ordered by UEFA since the 1980s.

Rangers must close 3000 home area seats for Thursday's sell-out game against Legia Warsaw. This is as a consequence of sectarian singing and chanting at the First Qualifying Round tie against St Josephs of Gibraltar.

UEFA are finally doing what the SFA should have done decades ago.

A full stadium closure is the next sanction.

Hopefully this will put an end to the sectarian bile that poisons the atnosphere at Ibrox on all too frequent basis.

https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/disciplinary/index.html#


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15 UEFA charges in 10 years for vile sectarian chanting promoting a murderous organisation. Threats by the governing body but sod all done. Ain't all a one way thing as you are very well aware but what the hell. Follow Follow!!

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