SPFL Proposal to Bring 2019/20 to an End

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The SPFL are to hold a vote of member clubs to determine whether or not to end 2019/20 for the Championship, League One and League Two. The Premiership remains "suspended" at present but would also be determined by the same process if it cannot restart..

Basically, Points Per Game will be calculated for games already played. All Play Offs will be cancelled.

The net effect is that Dundee United, Raith Rovers and Cove Rangers will be promoted and that Partick Thistle and Stranraer will be relegated. Hearts would be relegated if the Premiership does not restart and Celtic declared Champions.

In order to pass:
8 out of 10 Championship clubs required to vote yes. 15 out of 20 League 1 and 2 clubs required to vote yes.

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Do you think this means there won’t be any promotions from the LL/HL?
 

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It's proposed to bin the playoffs. This will include the pyramid playoff. Brechin saved... There has been mention of potential league reconstruction (even just temporarily) to allow possible promotion of a Highland/Lowland club, although this might just be weasel words from the SPFL.
 

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If no LL club promoted, would this mean 1 club (presumably Vale of Leithen) relegated and Bo'ness or Threave promoted? Or no promotion/relegation between tiers 5 and 6?
 

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What is your opinion on what will happen?
There will be tweaks once a conclusion is reached regarding the Premiership which may have knock on effects for the other leagues.
 

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Or league 2 could run with 13 teams for 2020/21 but that would mean at the end of the 2020/21 season the bottom team in SPFL2 would have to be relegated automatically with team 10 entering the play off. Also a 11 team division could mean teams playing each other 3 times instead of 4.
 

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Or league 2 could run with 13 teams for 2020/21 but that would mean at the end of the 2020/21 season the bottom team in SPFL2 would have to be relegated automatically with team 10 entering the play off. Also a 11 team division could mean teams playing each other 3 times instead of 4.
Both Brora & Kelty would now accept promotion. So how do you determine which one goes up. So it’s both or neither imo.
 

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Both Brora & Kelty would now accept promotion. So how do you determine which one goes up. So it’s both or neither imo.
Fairly obviously, by a vote of the SPFL member clubs, if that situation arose., with any team able to apply. That’s how a vacancy would be filled in the event of no Play Off.
Not that the situation will arise.
 

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Okay, is there a chance that you can define ‘a tweak’ in this issue?
 

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Okay, is there a chance that you can define ‘a tweak’ in this issue?
An adjustment.

Wait and see what happens when the Premiership clubs have to vote on ending their season. Nothing will be final until that is concluded.

If the proposal is for a table based on PPG with one club relegated, which clubs will vote against it?

Will it get the required majority?

If not, what secondary proposal will be raised to satisfy the Premiership clubs and what implications will that have for the other leagues?
 

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Just my own suggestion for what its worth.
Increase Scottish Premier to 14 clubs.
Run the season similar to now, with a split division later on.
Difference would be the 14 play each other H & A, 26 games.
Then split into 2x7.
Each half then play other six H & A again, 12 more games.
Total 38 fixtures as per now, but an even number of home & away (which does NOT happen now).

Of course, the odd numbered half divisions will mean each club would miss 2 of the 14 fixture dates, but that could be a slight benefit of a couple of mini rests for the clubs (and players).
And for maximum competitive effect, I would have the teams placed 7th & 8th (so furthest away from the top & bottom) missing the 1st round of fixtures & the 8th round.

Anyway, adding those two extra places in top division would then enable relegation to be excused down the line AND get both Brora and Kelty enrolled into the SPFL.

It would also be a good time to increase the Premier as my guess is that whenever we do start again, there will be a big boost in crowds (as there was after the last war), and so any slight dilution of funding by going from 12 to 14 would be more than compensated for.
 

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Should the clubs approve an end to the season and move on to discussing reconstruction, then a model similar to that will be considered. Not identical, but similar. However, that will not be discussed until a line is drawn under 2019/20.
 

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Since Brora are now interested in promotion then increase SPFL2 to 12 clubs. or 11 clubs and relegate Brechin
 

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It would also be a good time to increase the Premier as my guess is that whenever we do start again, there will be a big boost in crowds (as there was after the last war), and so any slight dilution of funding by going from 12 to 14 would be more than compensated for.
Of the 427 billion post I've read about the plague's effect on the game, yours is the first suggesting crowds will go up when the game resumes.
Cutting the financial.pie into 14 , rather than 12, isn't a slight dilution, and your plan does mean the bottom half of the league miss out on a third Old Firm home game.
 

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The Highland League response contains some salient points. They are fully entitled to lobby on behalf of their members. However, the responsibility of the SPFL is to protect it's 42 members. Decisions concerning the SPFL will be taken by the SPFL and no other body. If they believe that the best interests of the 42 are served by reconstruction or expansion then that is what they will do.
 

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Of the 427 billion post I've read about the plague's effect on the game, yours is the first suggesting crowds will go up when the game resumes.
Cutting the financial.pie into 14 , rather than 12, isn't a slight dilution, and your plan does mean the bottom half of the league miss out on a third Old Firm home game.
The "financial pie" might actually be bigger with 2 more teams.
Especially as on this occasion, it could mean reprieve for Hearts and have Dundee Utd coming up, could bring back the Highland derby too.
And all that in turn might perhaps attract a better TV deal next time (or at least help prevent it going lower!).

Anyway, however its done, I do think, given the pyramid play-offs have been cancelled, that the SPFL should look to increase by two teams.
 

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Oh, come on. The TV deal is the only thing that really matters. It starts this summer and lasts 5 years and Sky aren't going to chuck in any more money because two sides who should be in the second tier are going to play top flight football next year. And no one is going to pay extra in five years time because there was a Highland derby in 2020. They'd probably pay more if the league went down to eight teams and there were six Old Firm league games each season.
 

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